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AlexZvook
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QVox iOS chromatic intervals and delay times

AlexZvook
February 09, 2021 - 10:26 am

I just purchased QVox for iOS and sadly I see it lacks some BASIC features, here are my suggestions in case the developers check this site or if any other use has any advise on how to overcome them:

1: Can't set specific static intervals!: All the interval options are set on "musical intervals" and there is not an option to choose "cents" for pitch shift, this creates a problem where I need to set a specific interval range and have it to remain STATIC regardless of the note: the classic example on this could be trying to recreate Steve Vai's "Ballerina 12/24" patch which is a 4th and a 6th above but have them remain STATIC as in ALWAYS have 500 cents and 900 cents intervals REGARDLESS of the note, on the QVox app you CAN'T do that as it'll be changing the notes depending on which scale mode and root note you choose, so this makes IMPOSSIBLE to play that Steve Vai piece as the song modulates all the time and doesn't have a static root!, this could be fixed if this app had the option to choose pitch intervals in "cents" too and not only in their preset static musical intervals!

2: The ability to have INDEPENDENT delay times for each of the pitched voices would be great as currently all the delay times are dictated by the last interval and you CAN'T do polyrhythms

3: The ability to have PAN control for the pitched voices!, currently all the voices are panned hard left-right but this is not always desirable

4: You CAN'T re-save a preset after you have fine-tuned it!, you need to save into a new slot with a different name as you CAN'T overwrite it, so you'll end up soon with LOTS of user presets and then you have to delete them one by one 

 

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tlongabaugh
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tlongabaugh
February 11, 2021 - 01:31 pm

Hey,

Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately 1 - 3 are not possible to achieve in QVox. If you are a desktop user as well, you could use the Quadravox or Octavox plugins to achieve these effects.

As for #4, we can take a look at revising this so that it's possible to overwrite presets. Currently you could tweak the settings, delete the existing user preset, and then re-save, to avoid the renaming issue.

-Tom

AlexZvook
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AlexZvook
February 11, 2021 - 01:48 pm

tlongabaugh wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately 1 - 3 are not possible to achieve in QVox. 

-Tom

Hi Tom, thanks for your response, I'm just curious on why it is not possible to achieve that in Qvox?... I'm not a desktop user... I understand my #2 and #3 suggestions imply more programming and redesign but since the app already does pitch shift I'd LOVE to see at least my option #1 implemented: To have the option to select "cents" for pitch as that is the only way the pitched notes can stay static, other option would be to add the "chromatic" scale to the options or substitute it for one of the less usable ones, or in the Root notes selection have the "no root" option... anyway, I really hope the developers take this into account as I'm not a Desktop user...

Thanks 

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tlongabaugh
February 11, 2021 - 06:01 pm

Hey,

I meant that it's not currently possible to achieve those things in the QVox, not that it's technically impossible.

Adding these features is not entirely out of the question, but would either require some redesign of the UI (to incorporate cents vs. intervals) or potentially break session compatibility (adding another scale option would break automation). That's not to say it won't happen, as we've logged the feature requests, but it's not high priority at the moment.

Sorry about that.

-Tom

AlexZvook
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AlexZvook
February 12, 2021 - 05:13 am

tlongabaugh wrote:

... That's not to say it won't happen, as we've logged the feature requests, but it's not high priority at the moment.

Sorry about that.

-Tom

Thanks for the response Tom, I hope that at least this messages can make the "cents" feature be bumped up in priority soon, Cheers 

angelrojasguitar
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angelrojasguitar
March 19, 2021 - 03:51 pm

Hi Tom, another iOS user here that was looking for the same... it is a shame ballerina effect is not available in QVox or any of the other apps. 

 

And in regards to the point 4, I need to say it is very annoying, Eventide should improved it as an urgency matter.

Thanks Alex, my brain was about to explode looking to achieve Ballerina effect. Don’t know if it can be achieved combining QVox with the rest of the apps ( I have them all )

 

AlexZvook
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AlexZvook
March 19, 2021 - 05:20 pm

angelrojasguitar wrote:

Thanks Alex, my brain was about to explode looking to achieve Ballerina effect. Don’t know if it can be achieved combining QVox with the rest of the apps ( I have them all )

 

Hi, it is possible but you need another app to run independent lines for delays and pitch, I am even able to do it inside BIAS FX and I can also do it inside AUM running much less expensive apps: just set 2 AUM channels with both inputs assigned to your guitar interface, then run on each a pitch and delay line with the corresponding values and FX 100% wet, then assig both outputs of the channels to a BUS and another channel with its input taking the output of those 2 channels and that way you can also play with the pan levels so they're not 100% L/R or mono and also add a little reverb or other FXs....

That's why I'm also dissapoited that we can creat that effect with other less expensive apps but it seems they ust dumped the Eventide algoritms to iOS for mainly "presets play" and it seems they're not even updating it, It seems they don't even care about the reviews on the Apple app store as many people complain about the same and the devs don't even reply there... 

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tlongabaugh
March 22, 2021 - 12:11 pm

Hi, we've read your concerns and are aware of them. As I stated previously, the app was not designed for chromatic play and adding these features now is something that would break session compatibility for our users, which is a non-starter. I'm sorry that the app does not do exactly what you want, but incorporating the features you request would require rewriting most of the shift / delay grouping / panning UI/UX. This is something more likely to make it into a different app than as an update for QVox. The preset overwriting issue is logged in our system and will be addressed in a future update.

By the way, we do read App Store reviews and care greatly about user feedback - we monitor the reviews and respond as appropriate.

AlexZvook
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AlexZvook
March 23, 2021 - 11:51 am

tlongabaugh wrote:

Hi, we've read your concerns and are aware of them. As I stated previously, the app was not designed for chromatic play and adding these features now is something that would break session compatibility for our users, which is a non-starter. I'm sorry that the app does not do exactly what you want, but incorporating the features you request would require rewriting most of the shift / delay grouping / panning UI/UX. This is something more likely to make it into a different app than as an update for QVox. The preset overwriting issue is logged in our system and will be addressed in a future update.

By the way, we do read App Store reviews and care greatly about user feedback - we monitor the reviews and respond as appropriate.

  Well, it took almost 2 months and several messages here (not only from me) to respond over there, anyway, I'm a programmer too and I don't see how adding just the "static cents" option would break the whole app (unless the coding is too buggy)... Anyway, if at least you could offer refunds that would be better as asking people to pay for another app instead of working on upgrades is a NO NO.....