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Add-on card with 8 nice preamps?

ThreeFingersOfLove (My Eventide Gear)
September 04, 2020 - 10:20 am

Hi all,

I was wondering whether Eventide would consider offering an add-on card equipped with preamplifiers (2 channels/4channels or 8 channels) for the H9000. It seems there is plenty of space inside the H9000 for such a card and, maybe most importantly, plenty of demand. The preamps of the H8000FW play a significant role in its sonic character and they are very handy in many cases so I think it would be a great addition and definitely a great selling/marketing point.

What do you think?

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donrwatters
September 04, 2020 - 11:17 am

I’d like this. If it could include hi-z in and out, that would make it even more valuable. I think a lot of people want plug their guitar directly into the unit, like an H9. Also use it as a DI, and be able to send directly to an H9 would be sweet.

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September 04, 2020 - 03:29 pm

+1 on this, even though I probably wouldn’t use it this way. Would be nice to know I have another 8 mic pres in. Would also need 48v power. 

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September 07, 2020 - 11:17 am

this is now ticket #H9000-390 "expansion card request: mics and Hi-Z inputs"

I've always thought that a mastering-grade mixing-link-type expansion card would be sweet.

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September 08, 2020 - 10:24 am

Looks like a great idea! I hope the mic pre's will include a direct out, bypassing the unit's digital conversion, for when that is not needed, like when going directly into an analog mixer and adding H9k FX via mixer sends.

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September 11, 2020 - 01:07 pm

This is such a good idea. +1!

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September 25, 2020 - 10:58 pm

Absolutely +1. I’m keeping my DSP-7000 around mainly for the unique sound of cranking the pre’s.

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January 25, 2021 - 01:17 pm

Bump.

How is this coming along? Can anyone from Eventide comment on this?

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January 25, 2021 - 03:25 pm

> Can anyone from Eventide comment on this?

Ticket #H9000-390 "expansion card request: mics and Hi-Z inputs" has yet to be assigned to anyone. Development is currently focused elsewhere.

Edit: Nevermind! This actually is in progress, but I have no specs nor timeline for it.

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January 29, 2021 - 09:06 am

John Baylies wrote:

> Can anyone from Eventide comment on this?

Ticket #H9000-390 "expansion card request: mics and Hi-Z inputs" has yet to be assigned to anyone. Development is currently focused elsewhere.

Edit: Nevermind! This actually is in progress, but I have no specs nor timeline for it.

Great! Thanks for revealing that much.

I'd like to request that consideration be given to incorporating XLR/TRS combo jacks on that expansion card. Should I create a ticket? Actually, what is a 'ticket'?

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January 29, 2021 - 12:10 pm

> Should I create a ticket? Actually, what is a 'ticket'?

Tickets are a part of Eventide's internal project tracking system, which users don't have access to. Rest assured that your comments have been noted.

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January 29, 2021 - 01:31 pm
John Baylies wrote:

> Should I create a ticket? Actually, what is a 'ticket'?

Tickets are a part of Eventide's internal project tracking system, which users don't have access to. Rest assured that your comments have been noted.

Thank you.

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January 30, 2021 - 03:10 pm

I would happily purchase a card with great sounding preamps.  I'm currently keeping my DSP-7000 around cause I really like the sound on the analog inputs when tracking synths.  Would love if the H9000 can cover that final bit of ground. 

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Kamurah
January 31, 2021 - 11:47 am

Add my name to the list of someone who thinks this would be a great add-on!

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tmoravan
February 01, 2021 - 01:04 pm

I know it's still very early in the process, but how would you envision this card working if someone is currently using the analog I/O on the H9000?

Would we simply move the DB25 from the current input section to the new card, or would the card give us an additional 8 analog inputs (for a total of 16 in x 8 out analog)?

thanks

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February 01, 2021 - 06:01 pm

I might be overlooking something, but I don't see the point of moving the DB25 from the current input section to a new card. Hmmm

As for a new card expanding the number of inputs, surely there are people who would appreciate that. For such a card to add 8 channels, in consideration of the horizontal space available, it probably would have to have a DB25 connector. 

Another card could offer a fewer number of XLR/TSR inputs. Those could either add channels or be alternatives to the existing 8 channels. (UAD's Apollo x8p has both DB25 and XLR/TSR inputs for the same 8 channels. The user can select in software which is used.)

Offering multiple types of analog input expansion boards would be relevant to the H9000 as a long runner.

 

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February 01, 2021 - 10:01 pm

I think (but I could be wrong) what he meant by 'move' was the output of the preamp card would connect via DB25 to the analog input section of the H9000.  This saves the cost of a separate ADC if the preamp card cannot be routed to the existing analog section internally. 

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February 02, 2021 - 09:57 am

Yes, my summary question is -- if we install the pre-amp board, do we now have 16 separate analog inputs or still just 8?

I guess it may come down to whether the pre-amp board has its own A/D converters or does it plug into the existing analog bus and use the converters already present.

I think it would be a lower cost if it used the existing converters and was purely a pre-amp analog board.  We wouldn't have lost anything (still have 8 analog inputs) and if they use a DB25 connector for the new board, it's simple matter of installing the board and attaching our existing DB25 connector to the new board instead of to the mainframe.

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February 02, 2021 - 10:21 am

tmoravan wrote:

Yes, my summary question is -- if we install the pre-amp board, do we now have 16 separate analog inputs or still just 8?

I guess it may come down to whether the pre-amp board has its own A/D converters or does it plug into the existing analog bus and use the converters already present.

I think it would be a lower cost if it used the existing converters and was purely a pre-amp analog board.  We wouldn't have lost anything (still have 8 analog inputs) and if they use a DB25 connector for the new board, it's simple matter of installing the board and attaching our existing DB25 connector to the new board instead of to the mainframe.

The card will have its own converters and it will create additional analog channels, independent of the 8 channels of IO built into the main board, so yes, with one of the cards installed there will be more than 8 analog inputs.  (You can also add multiple cards for more analog channels if you have free expansion slots).

 

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Kamurah
February 02, 2021 - 12:00 pm

 

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The card will have its own converters and it will create additional analog channels, independent of the 8 channels of IO built into the main board, so yes, with one of the cards installed there will be more than 8 analog inputs.  (You can also add multiple cards for more analog channels if you have free expansion slots).

 

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Very nice!  Now about that internal fan.......

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February 02, 2021 - 02:26 pm

This can potentially open up a whole new class of channel strip like algorithms, not quite modeling like UA and others but with character all their own. 8 mic pres would turn the H9000 into a more viable stand alone interface. I understand it was never the intention, but this can definitely work. Maybe down the line we can have an interface mode tab, with the ability to send from these 8 pres to other algorithms. Lots of possibility here. 

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February 03, 2021 - 03:47 am

+1 on this idea - although 4 channels would be enough for the majority of my projects.

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February 04, 2021 - 09:09 am

ThreeFingersOfLove wrote:

Hi all,

I was wondering whether Eventide would consider offering an add-on card equipped with preamplifiers (2 channels/4channels or 8 channels) for the H9000. It seems there is plenty of space inside the H9000 for such a card and, maybe most importantly, plenty of demand. The preamps of the H8000FW play a significant role in its sonic character and they are very handy in many cases so I think it would be a great addition and definitely a great selling/marketing point.

What do you think?

i still have my orville in the rack (with the 9000..) for this very reason - very much would like to see this happen.

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zengomi
June 12, 2021 - 07:16 am

Hoping this is making its way up Eventide's to-do list. 

Big 'yes' to preamps!

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ThreeFingersOfLove (My Eventide Gear)
June 12, 2021 - 08:27 am

I would like to know as well, if there's any progress with this.

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millertime
June 12, 2021 - 10:01 am

I would love this myself

 

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joeydego (My Eventide Gear)
June 13, 2021 - 04:31 am

Glad to hear this is in process now. I definitely would love one!

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pacific202
June 29, 2021 - 03:27 pm

In a similar vein, I'd like to have an add-on card that will give me another 8 channels in and out over DB25.