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August 29, 2013 - 04:28 pm

Btw, this is my Solo Live Looping rig i call "OOpah Loopah" with the H9. In the home studio i'm experimenting with 2 x H9 units with initial tots to replace one the Eventide stomps but ongoing experiments are revealing this to be difficult to do so. :) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151552990976604&set=a.457848951603.250582.551811603&type=3&theater

Regards from Singapore

R

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August 30, 2013 - 12:33 pm

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Hi


Just some quick suggestions but nothing revolutionary:
1. First a question, now with the new system with buying new future effects, I assume that there is no limit on parameters, or is there still limits, for example could you create an effect with 20 parameters?
The reason I ask is I would like a 15 band graphic EQ or a parametric EQ plus a delay.
2.Also separate mix controls in the modechoverb algorithm for each effect.
3. LFO to control ribbon controller, I know there are lots of modulation options but it would be cool if when you select the parameters for the ribbon control if then ribbon control would move itself, and set the speed (not sure if it can do this).
4. More combination effects 


Already mentioned:
Pre/post option
Looper


Also, when changing a user preset on the ipod it doesn't give an option to either overwrite or save under a new name, when I last did it it just overwrote the existing preset.

I haven’t had my H9 for very long but I’m very impressed with it and looking forward to the new effects you have planned, and I really like the iOS integration, makes it very easy to control it and experiment with sounds.


Cheers

tritone
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August 30, 2013 - 02:06 pm

Count my vote for a large graphic EQ.

Also, a kind of ADSR for guitar with a tweakable autoswell for attack + a compressor and/or freeze for the sustained sound would be so much help for guitar pads.

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August 30, 2013 - 02:35 pm

This preset will give you auto swells

Algo: TremoloPan

Mix:100%

Type: Opto

Depth: 100%

Speed: or sensitivity start at 50% then adjust according to your playing dynamics

Shape: Envelope (works best when guitar is plugged straight in)

Xnob and the rest n/a or 0%

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August 30, 2013 - 04:17 pm

I'd like to mention as well that TremoloPan also does some slicing effects since that came up earlier in this thread.  Maybe not with all the rhythmic variations that one might want, but it does chop up the input signal when the shape is set to square as it is in H9 factory presets like "I walk alone" and "Square chopper".

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August 30, 2013 - 07:52 pm

[quote]I'd like to mention as well that TremoloPan also does some slicing effects since that came up earlier in this thread.

As does the PitchFactor's HarPeggiator.

[quote]What about expanding the ribbon control into an X/Y pad that would permit Kaoss Pad-style manipulation of two parameters simultaneously?  Maybe a sketching surface to draw modulation waveforms?  Or a soft version of the new EHX 8 Step Process to allow a preset to sequence expression pedal values using onscreen faders?

Yes, yes, and oh-hell-yes.

 

I could go crazy here with my own suggestions, but let's start fairly simply.  Some kind of true Doppler / pitch shift for the UltraTap.  It wouldn't have to be a great deal of shift, although octaves could be crazy.  That is, if there's any room left in the algo after all of those memory taps.

nullin
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September 01, 2013 - 10:50 am

A big second on the slicer, however this will only be effective when the H9 is able to receive PLAY, CONTINUE, and STOP MIDI commands.  But I know you guys are working on that.  This will turn the Harpeggiator and Tremolo into real weapons.

Also, A BIT CRUSHER!!  I know VintageDelay can do a very limited bit crush, but I'm talking something full featured like a WMD Geiger Counter or a Hexe Bitcrusher.  Not only would this be cool for guitar (my focus) but would be great on keys, drum machine, etc.

If the MIDI command issue is fixed and a slicer and bitcrusher added, I will DEFINITELY buy another H9.  That's the cool thing with the H9, the software expandability makes it possible for the H9 to eventually replace a lot of other pedals on our boards.  I'd rather have 3 H9's on my board than a few other type of pedals.  Can you imagine the versatility???

nullin
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September 01, 2013 - 11:05 am

A slicer would be fantastic!  Controls for duty, attack and mix.  Preset rhythms would be okay (like the SL-20), doing something like the AdrenaLinn 3 and being able to program 2 measures of slice would be great!  The same program-ability added to the Harpeggiator would be amazing also.  As was stated earlier, the H9 isn't limited by hardware controls.  However a slicer, the Harpeggiator and hard tremolo will only be really effective in a live situation after the H9 is able to recognize MIDI PLAY CONTINUE and STOP commands.  But I know you guys are working on that.

Also, a BIT CRUSHER please!  I know VintageDelay has a very limited bit crush, but something full featured like a WMD Geiger Counter or a Hexe Bitcrusher.  Controls for sample frequency (down to 260Hz), bit depth (down to 1 bit), telephone (band pass) filter, LFO for sample frequency (or assignable) and additional overdrive to really make it nasty.  It would be a real winner and really set the H9 apart from anything else!

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September 02, 2013 - 08:23 am

[quote]... a slicer, the Harpeggiator and hard tremolo will only be really effective in a live situation after the H9 is able to recognize MIDI PLAY CONTINUE and STOP commands.

I couldn't agree more.  XMT wouldn't hurt, either, for those using it as a MIDI master.  The RESTART function in the PitchFactor never really made sense to me.  It felt partially done.

If you're sync'ing a MIDI chain together - and a phrase has a distinct beginning & end - it should have the ability to tie in to anything else in the system.

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September 02, 2013 - 06:25 pm

I'd also like to request for H9 to offer an algorithm that's perhaps related to the Pitch Factor range that does the PolyTune function similar or better than the Boss OC3 where it creates polyphonic Octave down effects to certain pitch range on the Low E, A and D Strings on the guitar and include a filter control to the octave tone. Possible please? :)

regards

R

gogotina
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September 03, 2013 - 01:22 pm

I would like, if possible, to wish overdrive/distortion algorithm with a simple delay or reverb. Sometimes I'm lazy to carry a lot of gear to the sessions. I would also like some kind of Tube Delay, Space Delay and Synth Sounds, but not monophonic. Drive on Rotary algorithmPlease do not sacrifice quality for quantity. Greetings from Croatia.

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September 03, 2013 - 03:23 pm

I suggested a bit crusher of some sort earlier. I have the WMD Geiger Counter but given that none of the parameters can be recalled I have to take a picture of it to "save" the settings. If there was an algorithm modeled after it's parameters I would buy the H9 in a heart-beat. What's special about this pedal that it has a pre-amp/ tone and master Level making it a normal distortion pedal. but then you also get a sampler/resolution reduction PLUS the ability to run your signal through different harmonic curves. Honestly the Creativity is endless yet simple.

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September 06, 2013 - 11:24 am
ryan.veitch:

If you hold (I believe) the ALT key while adjusting the virtual knob, it should let you adjust in fine increments.  Hope that helps!

PERFECT!!!!! works like a charm!

thanks for thatBeer

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September 06, 2013 - 11:25 am
gkellum:

Thanks for the feedback.  There's no easy way to import  or export presets currently in the desktop builds of H9 Control, but it's on the todo list.  When you export a preset though from an iOS device, its exported with the extension h9z;  it's really just a zip file, and if you rename the h9z extension to zip and unzip the file, you can just drop the preset into the area where H9 Control manages its presets, which on Mac is ~/Library/H9 Control/Presets.  Like I said though, we're going to make this easier.

With the regards to entering values with the keyboard, people were asking for this on thegearpage too.  We don't want to parse all of the possible text inputs to all of the fields, but parsing numbers is easy enough and from what I gather what people want is to be able to type in numeric values like delay times. So, I think what we're going to do is support typing in input values for the controls with numeric values.

thanks, much appreciated.

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September 23, 2013 - 11:37 am

Well, we didn't think that the majority of users would want to use an iOS device on stage to control the H9.  Our thinking was more that it would be really useful while writing or rehearsing to be able to use an iOS device to be able to quickly try out different presets, to be able to see what all their parameters were set to on the UI, and to tweak them as needed.  For use on stage, we though most users would assign the parameters they want to tweak to one of the X, Y, Z, switches or the expression pedal patch or control things via MIDI.

Here's a general question to all H9 users though who also have a factor pedal.  How does working with the X, Y, Z, and HotKnob switches mapped to an encoder compare to your experience of using the 10 knob interface of the factor pedals?

Poppy
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September 23, 2013 - 12:07 pm
gkellum:

Well, we didn't think that the majority of users would want to use an iOS device on stage to control the H9.  Our thinking was more that it would be really useful while writing or rehearsing to be able to use an iOS device to be able to quickly try out different presets, to be able to see what all their parameters were set to on the UI, and to tweak them as needed.  For use on stage, we though most users would assign the parameters they want to tweak to one of the X, Y, Z, switches or the expression pedal patch or control things via MIDI.

Here's a general question to all H9 users though who also have a factor pedal.  How does working with the X, Y, Z, and HotKnob switches mapped to an encoder compare to your experience of using the 10 knob interface of the factor pedals?

I understand and the H9 control app is cool for what you said :) but not really for the in-app. I think, the H9 could have been designed like a Factor pedal with knobs and footswitch (and you already produce this kind of box, so you may have a good price on it ;)).

Another thing is that in US the H9 is findable at 400$, an that's ok for that price but in France it's at 770 $ !  (http://www.thomann.de/fr/eventide_h9_harmonizer.htm). 770$ is very expensive if you think that the player need a Midi controler + buy some algo (20$ each). I have bought my H9 in US.

For me, Foot pedals are not like rake effects, they must be accessible very quick on stage to play with it, For example i loved to play with the knobs on my TimeFactor for the crazy delay effects. With the X Y Z + rotary encoder H9, it's not as cool but some players may like it... that's why i'm making an H9 Midi controler with 10 knobs  

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September 26, 2013 - 06:46 pm

I'd like the H9 presets added to the Eclipse ;-)

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September 27, 2013 - 03:38 pm

+1 on the Slicer or Adrenalinn type rythmic effects.

Makers
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October 02, 2013 - 11:15 pm

I have a time factor and space in adition to my new H9. I think the Hotswitch, XYZ set-up is a very good compromise. In live situations I usually only needed to perform 1 or 2 parameters. I like the iOS editor and look forward to using it for my older pedals.

alexone
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October 03, 2013 - 11:20 am

The H9 is really a great device! And I find eventide very responsive on this forum, which is great!!.
I do regret only one thing about the H9. I'm missing some controler.
I find it difficult to switch the presets in a song. It would be great if we could program preset sequences within a preset. as a kind of scene:

An example, when I switch the preset 10, the right switch go to 18, then to 21, then back to 10. The left switch or 2 sec on right switch allow to get out the scene mode.


For algorithms, I look for a good uni-vibe-like.

And thanks again for this wonderful thing!!

alex

pauliusmm
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October 03, 2013 - 03:38 pm

How about eventide compressor? Would be super awesome to have a quality comp in H9.

tritone
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October 03, 2013 - 11:06 pm

There is the dynaverb algo from space which provides a compressor/limiter, the omnipressor, which is itself usable in a complete standalone way by setting decay knob down to zero.

mchad
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October 08, 2013 - 02:58 am

First post!

Don't even have a H9 as yet but it's just a matter of time. Wishing hard for a slicer/sequencer algo. Particularly in use with filters, trems and pitches. Pretty much what my Adrenalinns do. Cool! Would be so good to edit sequences with an iPad using onscreen faders too.

Looking forward to seeing the H9 develop.

pauliusmm
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October 11, 2013 - 06:59 pm

Freeze effect. The idea would be to make a sustain pedal that works like a piano sustain pedal. There are some pedals on the market with freeze effect, but the problem with all of them is frozen signal doesnt sound like aa guitar - it is effected, chorused etc. I would like a freeze effect that really sounds like a guitar and not some cheesy synth.

alexone
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October 26, 2013 - 07:17 pm

Looper +10000

univibe +1000000

and envelop filter?

I do not know if it's my incompetence, but I have not found an easy way to rearrange the preset in H9 control. A simple copy and paste function to move a preset from one slot to another would be nice<

anyway: thanks for this fantastic stompbox!!!!!
theryanpaul
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November 01, 2013 - 01:16 am

Just wanted to say! This pedal Made me a convert. I never, EVER, thought I would get rid of my M9 but here I am with 2 H9s and no line 6 M9. 

what I think would be awesome is a way to toggle per patch whether the hot switch is latching or momentary. 

Also if the delays were able to have the hot switch rather than the hold feature if I wanted. Cause then I could effectively have 2 settings per patch all controlled by one midi button press

great job guys! I am obsessed with this pedal!

theryanpaul
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November 02, 2013 - 10:33 am

Also some nitpick things.

It would be amazing in the H9 control software if when you are in preset list mode you can see the Tempos of each patch. I have to load 3 different sets into 2 H9s every week! and it would be a huge help to see tempo on that screen.

Also ability to affect multiple H9s at once. It would be nice to be able to load both of my H9s at once with presets.

And again. Ability to have the hot switch option on every pedal, Even the delays and Reverbs. It would be nice if you could assign what that middle switch did in the software, so you could make it a hold pedal or a hot switch or a fast/slow switch.

also a way to have the tap tempo show even if you aren't in the tap mode. Its nice when I can see the tempo of the song wight the tap LED but I use that switch to go up and down with patches. Is there a way to make the tempo still show up even if you are not inputting tap?

thanks again! Love your product!!

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November 02, 2013 - 10:55 am

Thanks for your feedback.

theryanpaul:

It would be amazing in the H9 control software if when you are in preset list mode you can see the Tempos of each patch. 

I assume you mean you'd like to see the tempo value in the 3x3 grid of the preset list overview, no?  This is because, you are changing the tempo a lot for particular presets depending on what song you are using it in, but otherwise keeping the preset the same?

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November 02, 2013 - 03:53 pm
Yes in the 3x3 window. I sometimes use the same preset for different songs and it would be nice to differentiate by bpm. Also Sometimes I have patches set for certain songs but different versions of said song and it makes it easier to tell which ones which when I can see the tempo. 

Again. LOVE the H9. First time since the m9 came out that I've ever wanted a different pedal to sculpt my sound around. It knocked the m9 off the board after listening to the H9 for 30 seconds!!

I also love the idea of having the algos you get attached to you forever for further expansion if you guys ever offer an H13 or something where you can run 2 algos at once!

It'll be a long process for me to purchase all the algos but I'm excited to someday have a fully loaded H9. 

Also are you guys looking for beta testers for the H9? I literally use it every day in sessions and 4 times a week playing at out at church

Cheers!
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November 06, 2013 - 09:13 am

In the most recent build of H9 Control, you can double tap on parameter values to type in their values. On the H9 itself pressing the encoder while you are adjusting a value puts you in fine tune mode.

jazzgear
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November 07, 2013 - 02:00 am

A line level capable H9 please?  And I will re-purchase one.

cgclepper
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November 07, 2013 - 12:00 pm

I'm using the H9 at line level without much issue, but the cable runs are maybe 10 feet to and from the patchbay.  The H9 is actually less touchy than my DSP4000 with input signals.

A 1U half rack mount version would be nice!

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November 07, 2013 - 01:47 pm

+1

don't know why the half-rack units all but faded out to pedal format. I think they are best for home recording and desktop use.

jazzgear
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November 07, 2013 - 08:38 pm

We'll I can't explain why that is.  It clipped at the lowest setting in both my SLO and Shiva loops.  It's definitely not a line level loop, as Eventide has admitted, it's an instrument loop allegedly capable of high level signals.  But I can attest that is not entirely true.

Worked just fine in my other amp's loops that are instrument level.

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November 07, 2013 - 08:39 pm

Btw the cable runs from my loop to the H9 was just 3 feet

nullin
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November 14, 2013 - 12:41 pm

How's the work on syncing to MIDI clock coming?  I've been emailing Pete about it and says you guys are looking into it as well as the play/stop/continue MIDI commands.  Simply being rock solid on this feature would immediately improve so many existing effects (Harpeggiator, Tremolo, and now looper).  Still hoping for a slicer too.  Cool job on the resonator!  Similar to the Adrenalinn, but a little different and more simple, which does lead to easier noodling.  FYI, I'm telling family that I only want iTunes gift cards for X-mas, so keep those algorithms coming!!  :)

styrioci
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November 15, 2013 - 01:50 am

spillover, please?

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November 15, 2013 - 11:59 pm

Thanks, gkellum.  As a TF owner, I can attest the looper will be a welcomed addition to the H9.

gkellum:

We also have something new being worked on that was requested in this thread, but it's too early to start talking about it what it is or when it's coming out though...

When you guys get done slicing Julienne fries and crushing dem bits, please keep us Hendrix freaks in mind with a killer Shin-ei Uni-Vibe reproduction.  Wink

hendrik7
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December 04, 2013 - 06:07 pm

My simple wish:

I want to be able to rename the stock presets. I don't wanna have to save a new user preset if I just wanna rename or even slightly adjust the mix for a given preset. Let me edit the stock stuff! And just have an option to recall factory presets for any given algo.

I would also like to be asked if I wanna overwrite or rename when I'm editing user presets. Sometimes I start tweaking user presets and if I accidentally hit save, I overwrite it right away and my old preset is lost :( I know the workaround would be to copy and then save/rename but I would like to be asked(couldn't you just have an option in the menu for this? "always ask before overwrite" etc)

Any just some simple stuff that would make the already great user interface even better imo!

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December 04, 2013 - 06:21 pm
hendrik7:

I want to be able to rename the stock presets. I don't wanna have to save a new user preset if I just wanna rename or even slightly adjust the mix for a given preset. Let me edit the stock stuff! And just have an option to recall factory presets for any given algo.

Well, the thing with the factory presets is that they are bundled in with the app, and because of where they are stored, you would need administrator rights to overwrite them.  Copying a preset puts it into a location where it's writable by the user...

hendrik7:

I would also like to be asked if I wanna overwrite or rename when I'm editing user presets.

You're the second person that's mentioned that.  It should be easy enough to add...

theryanpaul
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December 04, 2013 - 09:31 pm

The ability to store your user presets in alphabetical order would be great. 

Also (and I know it's probably not possible) it would be awesome when running stereo to be able to have 2 different algos come out of the left and right outputs. 

:)

DigitalTube
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December 04, 2013 - 10:50 pm

Is there a Noise Gate, and Compressor algo available for the H9? 

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December 05, 2013 - 01:27 pm
DigitalTube:

Is there a Noise Gate, and Compressor algo available for the H9? 

Check out the DynaVerb algorithm. If you set the decay to 0, it's just a compressor.  Here is the algorithm description from its help file (which is bundled into H9 Control).

Eventide Eclipse reverb with a model of the Eventide Omnipressor® to create an adaptable dynamics reverb.  The Omnipressor is capable of all types of dynamics processing from gating, expansion, compression, limiting, and even its signature &quot;dynamic reversal,&quot; where loud signals are squashed, but quiet signals are amplified.  In DynaVerb, the Omnipressor can dynamically control the output of a reverberator based on, either the input signal for maximum control, the reverb output for incredible chaos, or any mixture of the two.  As an added bonus DynaVerb can also be used as a standalone Omnipressor by setting [DECAY] to zero. 

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December 05, 2013 - 02:18 pm

Thanks!!!

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December 05, 2013 - 10:35 pm

I think the biggest thing on my list would be the option to manually put in numbers via the app. It is really hard especially on some of the knobs with huge numbers like shimmer to get the exact number you want. 

Along with the looper which I really really hope is coming out soon!!!!

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December 05, 2013 - 11:51 pm

There's also compression in the Timefactor Ducked Delay algo.  I messed around with it last night and was impressed.  Combining it with a slapback setting on Delay B yielded a pretty good chicken pickin' tone.  I've never been able to keep a compressor on my board for long because I just don't use it that much live.  Having it available in the H9 for those few occasions that I do use it is a nice bonus.

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December 05, 2013 - 11:53 pm

You can do that now.  Just clicking or tapping on the number puts it in edit mode and allows you to type an exact value.

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December 06, 2013 - 04:47 am

In the  latest version of the app you can click or tap on the values to enter exact numbers

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December 11, 2013 - 06:12 pm

One simple wish:

Stop making me go to preset one in Ultratap everytime a demo finishes! Let me stay where I am! Sometimes when I try algo's I dont spend the full 5 min with it, and when I'm already deep into something else, it takes me to the Ultratap as soon as the demo in the background finishes! Super annoying. I'm glad I haven't showed my buddies any demo algos 3-4 min before a gig.

Minor bug:

Resonator algo has a lot of repeated presets.

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December 11, 2013 - 09:09 pm
hendrik7:

Minor bug:

Resonator algo has a lot of repeated presets.

What do you mean that Resonator has a lot of repeated presets? You mean you are seeing multiple copies of presets with the same name, or you mean that some of the presets that are named differently sound the same?