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bansta
Joined: Feb 2 2018
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Hot Sawz best practice

December 06, 2018 - 07:43 am

I wonder, how do you, guys, use the new HotSawz algorithm?

It sounds pretty damn good by itself. I mean: guitar - H9 - mix desk.

But if I place the H9 before my amp, it sounds thin (of course I use the clean channel of my Mark V)

In the effect loop it sound dull and somehow quiet.

Thanx a lot!

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brock
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December 06, 2018 - 10:56 am

I can't help you with the loop end, but I'm finding HotSawz anything but thin on the front end.  Quite the opposite, with extreme filter settings.  I do run in stereo, yet I don't see anything internal to the algo that might cause phase cancellation in mono.  Maybe the detuned oscillators ... but I don't think so.

Without much modulation going on, a low MIX and/or CUTOFF below 50 or so really damps things down.  I'm finding them to be fairly interactive together.  HotSawz is dynamic to to input level, so I might check there second.  Compression might help, but I'd tend to think on the output, to preserve input triggering.

bansta
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December 12, 2018 - 06:10 am

it looks like not so many H9 owners use the Hot Sawz :(

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mistercharlie
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December 12, 2018 - 05:07 pm

I use it in into a mixing desk.

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December 13, 2018 - 11:04 am

I defintily use it a lot for Bass, it's fat'n marvelous!

davebrubaker
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December 14, 2018 - 11:36 pm

I've been getting great results running various pedals after Hotsawz. Adding an overdrive after adds alot of punch. And I've been getting some really interesting sounds with two H9's after. When I first tried out Hotsawz I felt it had a limited range, but treating the output with additional effects opens up alot of possibillities.

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mistercharlie
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December 22, 2018 - 05:03 am

HotSawz > fuzz > phaser.

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brock
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December 27, 2018 - 08:54 am

davebrubaker wrote:

I've been getting great results running various pedals after Hotsawz. Adding an overdrive after adds alot of punch. And I've been getting some really interesting sounds with two H9's after. When I first tried out Hotsawz I felt it had a limited range, but treating the output with additional effects opens up alot of possibillities.

mistercharlie wrote:

HotSawz > fuzz . phaser.

I see a similar pattern developing here.  As full-featured as HotSawz is, it makes sense to to add 'modules' to many synthesizer emulations.  HotSawz being the main component of a modular system.

HotSawz likes to be first in the routing, but there's room for experimentation before it.  Something that doesn't confuse the pitch detection too much [envelope mods, even reverb!].  Like the others here, I've been using another sustaining / harmonics / envelope section [freeze; distortion; compression].  Then a 'master effects' module to blend it all together [modulation; delay; reverb; harmonizers].

The most pleasant surprise has been using slicers, tremolo, & sequencers in the final module.  Complete transformations with HarPeggiator, QuadraVox, Diatonic, ... Arpeggiating powerhouse.

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mistercharlie
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December 28, 2018 - 02:26 am
brock wrote:

The most pleasant surprise has been using slicers, tremolo, & sequencers in the final module.  Complete transformations with HarPeggiator, QuadraVox, Diatonic, ... Arpeggiating powerhouse.

I’m trying this out right now!