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larrym
Joined: Jan 29 2008
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Ideas for future Timefactor update

larrym
April 07, 2008 - 01:42 pm
Hello, This is my first post here. I love the new updates (both beta versions). They have made my life easier already. I have some other ideas and would like to see if anyone else shares the same thoughts. Dan these are the same that I emailed you about. 1 I use both units with a Midi controller and I had to make preset 1:1 my bypass preset. This works but when I am not using any effects both unist are still on. IF would be great if you could switch the units into bypass mode from midi. or just be able to store a preset in the off mode waiting to be turned on. THis would only make sense if you where switching preset through a midi controller. 2 Naming things. Either the option to name your presets or at least have a display that says [ 1:2 V 480 ] for Time factor. V meaning Vintage, D meaning Digital, M meaning Mod, Mu meaning Multi Tap and so on. That tells me more about the preset than either bank 1:2 or in the other mode Vintage Dly does. It would be nice to have a display read out like rack effects units so that you can look at it and have a better understanding of what's about to come out. At least be able to tell what the tempo or delay time is going to be. I know that you can do this by taping the tap tempo button once but sometimes on stage you just don't have that much time. I could also use a bigger midi controller with a big read out. But I am using a a very small one the Axess Electronics MFC5. (It's all about getting on a plane with my whole rig these days). But I also like to be able to switch on the fly. It woudl just make life a little easier . Any thoughts? Thanks Larry
Mike33
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Mike33
April 07, 2008 - 03:03 pm

Hi Larry

I switch my Timefactor into Bypass via MIDI.

I tried to explain my settings to another Timefactor user here as well but it did not work on his setup. I will write my settings here as soon I have the time to verify my Timefactor and MIDI controller. It could be that I looked wrongly...

Give me a few days and I will let you exactly know how I do it...

Michael 

larrym
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larrym
April 07, 2008 - 04:17 pm
Hi Michael, Thanks, I look forward to hearing how you have your TF set up to do this. It would be great. Larry
Roobin
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Roobin
April 12, 2008 - 06:57 pm

For the larrym:

F would be great if you could switch the units into bypass mode from midi. or just be able to store a preset in the off mode waiting to be turned on
what do you mean by 'off mode'? As in 'it would be great to navigate to a preset whilst playing through another preset so all I have to do is press a button to load the preset'? 

For idea #2, surely the LEDs at the side of the billboard are there to give instant notificaiton of the mode? If the bill board started scrolling then it would be annoying in a live situation where you'd have to keep watching the billboard. Unless you mean on the MIDI controller itself?

larrym
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larrym
April 13, 2008 - 11:28 pm
Nope, I mean if i go to preset 4 on my controller and it has delay then go preset 5 and I want that to not have any delay then right now I have to make that preset effect level all the way off. Dry only. It would be great to have my midi controller switch the TIme factor and my Mod Factor go into BYPASS. as in no effect like stepping on the the active /effect on off switch. In searching the net, I have read that some people have gotten this to work. I have been trying by using CC messages as the manual says. But I am not having much luck. Thanks Larry
JNPMusic
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JNPMusic
April 14, 2008 - 04:06 pm
I stated this earlier but I think it's worth another try! Now that we have 20 banks of program patches I think it would be nice to have the option of assigning the tap/hold for play button to toggle between two banks of 10 instead of it going into manual mode. this way you have 2 sets of ten with the flexibility of scrolling through 2 different banks of your choice faster than banking through all 20. Plus it gives you the chance to save 2 separate bank sets for different situations. Just a thought! JP
johnhruska
Joined: Apr 27 2008
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johnhruska
April 27, 2008 - 04:03 pm

Hello everyone, first post for me here in the Timefactor forum. The only update that I would like to see to the TF at this point in time would be faster rate time for the modulation. It does some really nice modulation settings as it is, but I need faster rate settings to bring in the crazy. Thanks!!

mkl...
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mkl...
April 29, 2008 - 04:32 am

 co-sign on this oneSmile

Roobin
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Roobin
April 29, 2008 - 06:49 am

Perhaps an aux switch setting instead of holding down stuff?
dissever
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dissever
June 02, 2008 - 12:07 pm

Writing names for the patches would be great.

Also some way to switch between milliseconds and bpm. I know when using the tap tempo you get bpm but when using the time knob in bank mode it only displays in milliseconds and I have to do converisons using my other delay pedal. 

A bank/play mode hybrid would be really nice. Like having two presets as in bank mode but having the third switch do tap tampo instead of bank selection.

I mentioned in the bugs thread that the bypass still isnt seemless when in dsp/trail mode. It is very noticable when playing with distortion using the pedal in an effx loop. I do alot of quick delay uses which is why the trail options was a necesity but I usally hit the pedal on and off with the beat of the music. If you hit a note at the same time a you hit the bypass you get a lag. 

rickwil61
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rickwil61
June 15, 2008 - 02:55 pm

Something that I think would be useful is the ability to swap patch locations. For instance suppose that you are arranging patches for an upcoming gig and you only need to activate the first 5 banks but you have a patch in bank 8:2 that you want to use. It would be nice if you could save patch 8:2 into patch 4:1 (for example) and have the timefactor move the patch you are overwriting to patch 8:2. I think this would greatly help in managing patches. Thanks, Rick

jnorris
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jnorris
June 16, 2008 - 02:37 pm

You should be able to do this using Midiox. If you go into the Midi section there is an option to do a dump of individual presets.

6string
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6string
June 28, 2008 - 02:35 pm

 It's an awesome pedal, but these updates would really be useful... I'm a bit surprised  (shocked really) that the following features are not there.

1) The ability to reverse a loop, and perhaps have delay available when looping.

2) Faster modulation speeds.

3) Naming presets. 

woonk
Joined: Jun 23 2008
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woonk
June 28, 2008 - 10:02 pm

Low res delay would be nice. I can?t match the ones from my line 6 dl4 with the time factor[:'(]

any set up to have the low res???

Johny
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Johny
June 28, 2008 - 10:23 pm

I suggest to add a new option to bypass this unit.

The standard option of dsp+relay when you bypass it the delay tial is still going

eventhoug you bypass it off so If I have some preset that has a long

feedback that is no way to shut delay tail down out of turn feedback knob to 0.

My idea is double active switch to shut the delay tail in dsp+bypass mode like Boss DD-20 did when you need to quickly turn the feedback off.

Just for my idea and sorry for my bad english.

Thank you Eventide

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AAgnello
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AAgnello
June 29, 2008 - 12:13 pm

 If you're trying to adjust the delay with fine resolution (1 msec), you can do so using the encoder as described on Pages 24 and 25 of the User Guide under the heading "Adjusting Tempo & Tweaking Delays."

Roobin
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Roobin
June 29, 2008 - 12:44 pm

 Turn the mode knob to Vintage Delay, then turn the Xnob right and listen.

yotam
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yotam
June 30, 2008 - 04:29 am

Faster rate for the modulation will be great. 

hlwilson3rd
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hlwilson3rd
July 02, 2008 - 08:08 am

 I love the pedal! Someone finally did a digital delay pedal correctly. On my wish list for a future update would be a setting that would do the "Circular Delay" settings found on the PCM70. Here's a great explanation (borrowed from another forum):

Circular Delays:
This one is a bit more complicated, but it's not as magic or special as many think, because other units can do this one too.

It's a 3 tap delay ( so it's one delay with 3 taps, and NOT 3 individual delays as many, including I, thought in the past ). No high or low cut on this one either.

The first delay is 292ms, damped 3db, and panned to the right
Second one is 584ms, and panned to the left.
Third one is 888ms, and panned to the middle.

The way it's panned etc, it sounds like the echos cross from one side to the other in a circular manner. If you would record a stereo clip of this preset, and then convert it to mono, the repeats would appear to come in groups of three. The first one (292ms) is damped 3db ( which is like cutting the volume in half), the second one (584ms) is not damped and is 3db louder than the 292ms, and the last one (888ms) is 3db louder than the 584ms.

So each repeat in a group of three gets twice as loud (3db) than the previous one. The reason for the last (888ms) getting twice as loud as the one before (584ms), is because its' panned to the middle, which means it's sounding through both left and right, instead of just one. When forcing this to mono, it means that this third (888ms) repeat gets twice as loud as the second (584ms) because the second is only sounding through one speaker.

 

Thanks,

H.L. Wilson 

IDeangelis
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IDeangelis
July 02, 2008 - 08:33 am

That's probably beyond the scope of this pedal as it's providing quite a number of different fx. To have 6 delay lines the Tfactor should very likely give up many of the current effects it offers.....

Circular Delays (and much more) are available in all reck Eventide units BTW.

cheers

pdouds
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pdouds
July 05, 2008 - 07:08 pm
+1 on the naming presets, that really sucks not being able to name them.
comebacktomorrow
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comebacktomorrow
July 15, 2008 - 07:22 am
I'm all for the naming of presets, and the line6 type swell thing going on too. Another idea.. The ability to assign an aux switch tap vs an aux switch hold. For example: aux 1 - tapping an aux switch would set the tap tempo / holding would create do a repeat. aux 2 - tap switch bank (a/b) / hold change preset aux 3 - tap bypass / (data bank 2?) I suppose this may not work for everyone's setups, but I'm just interested in seeing if anyone else might find this useful?
rafaelsodre
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rafaelsodre
July 15, 2008 - 04:38 pm

Tempo ON/OFF
"...Tempo is turned ON or OFF by momentarily pressing the Encoder. When Tempo is ON, the Tempo LED flashes at the Tempo rate. With Tempo OFF, the Tempo LED is OFF..."

Why ???!!! My idea is the LED flashes always... Its help a lot !!! Please !!! Change it !!! Thanks all !!!

frizbplaya
Joined: Sep 2 2008
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frizbplaya
September 02, 2008 - 11:14 pm

Great product!  I'm loving this delay.  I'd suggest some tweaks for the vintage delay.  There's still a lot of noise with lower bit rates, even with the 2.3 update.  Anything below 15 bits is getting too noisy.  Also, it would be great if the delays could decay as they did on vintage delays with low bits.  Each repeat should get a little less clear until it's the digital equivelant of a bucket brigade analog delay losing clarity.  Seriously, I hate to compare the TF to the DL4 because it's a much better delay... but line6 nailed the Lo Res and it's a lot of people's benchmark now.  Thanks for listening!

micki001
Joined: Aug 27 2008
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micki001
September 05, 2008 - 01:56 pm

 I am also LOVING what the TimeFactor is doing for my otherwise-analog pedalboard. The sounds are exceptional.

 I have a feature request - when using the Aux Switch and a Looper preset, permit double-assignment of the Aux Switch to provide 'play mode' features while TimeFactor remains in Bank mode.

 Currently, if you assign the Aux Switches to certain settings (like Tap Tempo), additional assignments to other functions (like Looper Play mode controls)
cause the TimeFactor to forget assignments.

Would love to simply remain in Bank Mode on the TimeFactor, and have the Aux Switch take over the Play mode features for Looper patches (while retaining other settings for non-Looper patches).

Thank you Eventide!

marrrtinez
Joined: Jan 19 2008
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marrrtinez
November 11, 2008 - 04:08 am
To the next update, it could be a very nice upgrade an editor tool based on PC/Mac. I think that this helps a lot to organize and tweek the effects ina more graphical way. Just my 2 cents
moleskine
Joined: Feb 23 2008
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moleskine
November 11, 2008 - 02:12 pm

 Would it be possible to have a delay on the Timefactor with delays which are pitch shifted up an octave? The original signal would of course stay the same (otherwise a normal octave pedal would do the job).

If not, is it possible to use one of the outputs on the TF just for the delays and one just for the clean guitar signal? This way, I can affect the delays with any possible external effects from octavers to synths to modulation pedals, etc..

Please let me know if any of these things are already possible.

Cheers

Priestunes
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Priestunes
January 14, 2009 - 12:51 am
My vote for future updates regards the aux switches. I tried to set three ranges of mix (KB0). They would have been 0 to 33%, 34-66%, 67-100%, each to its own aux switch, but it turns out one can only assign tip, ring, or tip/ring to one parameter.
BKK-OZ
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BKK-OZ
January 16, 2009 - 04:25 am

+1

Yes PLEASE give us a simple editor.

PLEASE!

Lanefair
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Lanefair
March 14, 2009 - 09:35 am
I've got a request. Why is it all the timefactor delays are parallel only? My Boss GT-8 (although had inferior delays) had the option of series, parallel, dual L/R, wet/dry. It would be great if say under the regular delay you could forfeit the modulated delay and instead have these routing options on the mod knob. I miss being able to run one delay into the other, have have wet/dry outs, it's the one thing this pedal can't do.
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mborbo
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mborbo
March 16, 2009 - 02:11 pm

 +1 for bank/fx editor for mac

+1 for possibility to give names to presets (and scrolling on display)

+1 for spillover between presets

+1 for tempo lock in single preset (for example i use a multitap delay for reverb and i'd like the tempo will NEVER change even if i use the global tempo for all the other presets, that is very very useful for me).

Thanks Eventide.

 

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yotam
May 27, 2009 - 06:27 pm

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I would like to have the ability to use the RPT function on delay A, while maintaining ?normal? delay (without repeat) on delay B

Thanks:)

Yotam.

dissever
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dissever
May 28, 2009 - 02:59 pm

 Im getting bad seems in the looper now that im using it more. The restart does not seem to be as smooth as other loopers. Also the programing for exp. control is not very intuitive. I may have mentioned this before but a quick way to turn all exp. controls off on presets would be great. Its too difficult to navigate through all the presets and remove all exp. assignments. And the lag when switching between bypass and effect is really bothersome, especially when using heavily filtered patches.

kentcooper
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kentcooper
April 07, 2010 - 10:11 pm

To take this thought a bit further, I think an option that would allow the user to set parameters around the aux buttons so that it can go forward or backward in increments of 10's would be a very useful timesaving option in switching to and from various banks. 

jnorris
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jnorris
September 20, 2010 - 08:52 pm

Hope this is an easy update ...

Implement a midi control change option to send Play & Stop to Looper using the same control change number. Basically the same option you can set to send Activate/Bypass in Bank or Play mode.

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nickrose
September 21, 2010 - 01:41 pm

jnorris:

Implement a midi control change option to send Play & Stop to Looper using the same control change number.

See under [RCV CTL] in the User Manual.

ctc
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ctc
November 19, 2010 - 02:37 pm

I would like to the auxiliary switches to truly be programmable for bank and play modes separately. In spite of what the manual says, right now they seem to be programmed for the looper, and everything else. Then I would like bank preset 1 and bank preset 2 programmed as parameter destinations. This way the auxiliary switches would truly be able to emulate the foot switches.

krosser
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krosser
December 03, 2010 - 05:08 pm

1) Some kind of simple delay while in loop mode

2) Ability to switch to looper from bank mode without switching modes and then bending over, such as stepping on center & right simultaneously and having it then go directly to looper mode, then back out the same way

hywelg
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hywelg
December 04, 2010 - 11:27 am

I never could get my TF to work properly with a 3 button Aux switch when having the looper saved as a preset. I thought it was me not understanding what to do but maybe I am not as thick as I thought I was!!

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October 23, 2011 - 12:17 am

+1 on both:

krosser:

1) Some kind of simple delay while in loop mode

2) Ability to switch to looper from bank mode without switching modes and then bending over, such as stepping on center & right simultaneously and having it then go directly to looper mode, then back out the same way

kanifi
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kanifi
April 09, 2008 - 02:18 pm

thx mike can't wait to have your setting

cyilCool 

CSmith
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CSmith
April 12, 2008 - 12:37 pm
I'd like the the TF to be capable of the "Volume Swell" effect like the Line 6 DL-4. Ought to be a way to achieve with Duc-delay or reverse but can't be done, YET.
Roobin
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Roobin
April 14, 2008 - 05:02 am

Hmm so stepping on/off the preset button isn't working...You can dedicate a midi switch that toggles Bypass/Active, but that's a bit frustrating considering you can normally step on/off to toggle.How have you mapped the program changes? Using RCV MAP?

Mike33
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Mike33
April 14, 2008 - 09:49 am

To switch the TF into Bypass via MIDI I do the following.

On the TF go into the MIDI Menu then go to RCV CTL and there set the value like this:
BYP < C20  (C20 means CC20) CC stands for MIDI continuous controller commands.

On my MIDI Footcontroler when I send a CC20 to the TF the TF goes into Bypass.
Works  great for me. Of course you can use every CCnumber you like. 20 was just a sample.

larrym
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larrym
April 14, 2008 - 10:40 am
Thanks Mike33 I will give that a try. I did try going into the CC area. I must have missed a step somewhere. Thanks for your help. Roobin, I have a switching system setup so that everything changes with one button on my midi controller. The idea is to hit one button and the timefactor modfactor presets change as well as overdrive go on or off etc.... But I have patches where I don't want the time factor or the modfactor on. I can switch to those presets and then(as you suggest) quickly step on the the bypass switch ON each of those units but that would involve too much tap dancing. I don't want to do. Right now I have made presets with %100 DRY no effect in those spots where I want those units to to be bypassed, I am trying to have (like some people have been able to do now) my midi controller tell the Time and Mod Factors to switch to bypass (the same as the on off switch on the actual units being pressed). If you are not changing your Time factor presets by midi then I don't think you will understand walk I am talking about. But thanks for trying to help. Larry
Roobin
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Roobin
April 14, 2008 - 12:47 pm

Unfortunately, I'm no MIDI expert, so yes, this is out of my experience. Hope you get it working.

rickwil61
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rickwil61
May 29, 2008 - 10:53 pm

I'd like to see a volume swell feature added like the Line 6 DL-4 has.  That would be really useful for me.

dissever
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dissever
June 02, 2008 - 08:36 pm

 As mentioned in another thread

 Alot of times I want loud repeats without affecting my dry signal. When the pedal is in an effx loop and you have the delay over 50% it cuts the dry signal too much. I can see the use for 100% wet sound with some settings (filters etc..) but more often I like loud delays with a consistent dry signal. Maybe some way to have the mix knob function as al level knob

jnorris
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jnorris
June 16, 2008 - 02:23 pm

I have the same exact requirements as disserver regarding the volume drops.  It was resolved by updating to the beta version.  Hope this helps.

rickwil61
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rickwil61
June 17, 2008 - 12:25 am

"You should be able to do this using Midiox. If you go into the Midi section there is an option to do a dump of individual presets."

If this was in response to my request concerning swapping patches then I understand what you're saying but it would require plugging the computer in all the time.  If the timefactor could do this on its own then once you get your patches defined then you could move them around as needed on the fly.  The Boss GT8 has this capability and I found it quite useful for easily preparing for a gig when I used to use a GT8.

gregovertone
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gregovertone
June 17, 2008 - 04:21 pm
for the looper feature.... i would love to see reverse added. just being able to take a loop, and perhaps use an aux switch, trigger it to play in reverse. that would be terrific.