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JNPMusic
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JNPMusic
September 19, 2010 - 12:26 pm

Well, you wouldn't have to wait for any updates with that unit! I'm sure it's a smoker unit but your frustration might be getting the best of you. I realize that it's been awhile but I also realize that this is one of the best delay units on the market that offer you any way to upgrade. I think we get a little anxious with updates and expect them to happen frequently but I would be happy with one a year!  I have other units that sound great but when I think "Man I wish it just could do this"  I know it's not capable of updating. But with TF I know there is a possibility that it can.

I'm grateful to have such a great unit that allows us the user to give input and have it given back to us within a software update. 

Use it for what it has! If your not happy with it by all means sell it and get something that you will be happy with.

I mean no disrespect...

Peace!

mapmap
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mapmap
September 19, 2010 - 12:35 pm

so sorry. i guess this is a touchy subject.

mapmap
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mapmap
September 19, 2010 - 12:38 pm

sorry if i touched on a sore subject.

BTW, the 2880 CAN be updated...  by either the USB port or the Compact Flash card.  easy.

Reckedtrek
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Reckedtrek
September 19, 2010 - 03:59 pm

I agree with BMF, I do not feel let down at all. This stuff takes time to do, and they have other products to support as well. I think taking a realistic view of things might help, no offense mapmap.

Most companies do little to nothing once you buy their product. Eventide has been different, and I'm willing to bet they will continue to do so at least for a while longer (all products pass on eventually).

jcshirke
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jcshirke
September 19, 2010 - 05:10 pm

I'd just like to have some idea when the updates will be coming. It would be even better if we had some idea what would be included (or, as the case may be, fixed) in those updates.

JNPMusic
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JNPMusic
September 19, 2010 - 05:19 pm

No need to be sorry! Your just expressing yourself!

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badmelonfarmer
September 20, 2010 - 09:40 am

Hi mapmap,

no worries, you have not touched on a sore subject and you are completely entitled to your opinion. 

Sorry I did not realise you could update the 2880, I missed that when I was looking at looping devices. Do they update regularly? looked an interesting device. I went for a Boomerang III in the end.

Cheers

BMF

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achaput
September 20, 2010 - 12:17 pm

We've been listening to your requests and working on the next update. New software updates require lots of work and testing even for small changes. Thanks for your patience everyone. There are some cool features coming that I think you're really gonna dig!!

-Alan 

Reckedtrek
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Reckedtrek
September 20, 2010 - 12:41 pm

Great news Allan. Glad to hear it. Can't wait to hear (and use) the latest and greatest. I'm sure you're not allowed to say what's being worked on exactly, but care to give us a little teaser on what *might* be coming? Big Smile

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badmelonfarmer
September 20, 2010 - 12:51 pm

cool! 

Look forward to hearing about them!

Cheers

BMF

caveman
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caveman
September 25, 2010 - 12:21 pm

Alan - is there a date for the upcoming release, or a list of new features yet?

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September 30, 2010 - 06:08 pm
caveman:

Alan - is there a date for the upcoming release, or a list of new features yet?

Well, there is one new feature that allows you to set the TimeFactor to be even more awesome than it already was. And there is another new feature which lets you adjust the overall amount of awesomeness. Big Smile

Reckedtrek
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Reckedtrek
September 30, 2010 - 06:20 pm

Totally awesome!! Alan, can you tell us if there is an actual awesome control, or is the increased awesomeness spread evenly throughout the unit and software, like a set it and forget it awesomeness setting?

I have an idea... how about just making an AwesomeFactor. Once all the other Factors have awesome SW updates, the AwesomeFactor will make them all work awesomely in harmoniously and perfect sync. Oh... and serve as an all in one power supply have preset naming!

That'd be awesome.

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badmelonfarmer
October 01, 2010 - 04:16 am

Indifferent

Will this have a "spillover" option to allow Awesomeness to spillover into your love life?

Andy Wild
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Andy Wild
October 04, 2010 - 05:26 pm

An editor should be able to do everything a user can do from the h/w interface but quicker and easier for the most part. 

That would be really great, along with naming the patches.

zikamuricpe
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zikamuricpe
October 07, 2010 - 07:26 pm

Well, knowing a date when awesomeness arives in my life would be awesome enough for me!

jarred
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jarred
October 08, 2010 - 10:35 am

O please o please let me name my presets!

damienl64
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damienl64
October 12, 2010 - 05:23 pm

Please hit the release button guys, I am dying to get the update!

jcshirke
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jcshirke
October 13, 2010 - 07:33 pm

Faster mod speed across the board. 5 Hz just doesn't cut it for me. At first I thought it was only the vintage delay that had the slow mod speeds, but now that I've been experimenting with the other delay types, I realize that 5 Hz is the max.

otoskope
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otoskope
November 01, 2010 - 11:10 am

I've seen some people complain about the way the Timefactor handles spill as a defect. I just want to say that in my way of using the TF, this spillover into next preset/delay model an absolutely essential feature! I use the TF (or rather, two of them) as a solo instrument, handling and creating feedback and loops, and being able to switch between models without losing material is fantastic.

Also, I do not agree that the looper is just very basic, as some people ave said in this thread - it can do things most other loopers could only dream about - like recording and playing while moving the playback point and looplength around, in realtime. I have several other loopers, which are better for plain playin/overdubbing kind of looping, but for sonic mayhem and realtime remixing, the TF is just in a league of its own.

So, if the new update would include new ways of handling spill, please keep the current features intact! Just my 2c...

termozzz
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termozzz
November 01, 2010 - 01:34 pm

+100 , realy need faster mod speed . !! )

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November 01, 2010 - 02:06 pm

How fast do you guys want to mod speed to go?  What kinds of sounds are you trying to get that you can't?

I could crank it up to 20 Hz and get all kinds of really pitchy modulation, but I'm concerned that it will make it harder for people to get nice chorus style sounds.  I want to make sure there's a trade off for people who want both.

Dan

jcshirke
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jcshirke
November 01, 2010 - 02:21 pm

Hi Dan,

Thanks for replying.

I need Edge-like mod speeds, which can get up to 5Hz-6Hz in some cases. Right now the vintage delay algo can't get me close, but I can usually nail it with the digital delay algo. But I have to max out the mod speed in a lot of cases. So, my .02 is to increase the vintage delay's mod speed a fair amount--at least double it. The digital delay mod speed (for my needs is pretty close), but it would be great to have a bit more there, too. I'd say 20Hz is definitely not needed--for me anyway.

Thanks again,

Jeff

otoskope
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otoskope
November 01, 2010 - 02:34 pm

Let it go up to 20Hz or something for us experimental geeks, but with a non-linear scale, so that a middle setting still gives a nice and slow speed. That is, let the extreme values only appear in the very end of the knob range. In this way you can make everyone happy.

termozzz
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termozzz
November 01, 2010 - 03:34 pm

I think 10 is enough ) 20 is too much

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November 01, 2010 - 05:54 pm

I´d love:

1-The saturation effect on the Tape Delay to be more dramatic/noticiable and not having to cranck the feedback to get the grunge. 

2-A simple yet killer update for me would be having an utility option to Limit the Delay Time to 2 or 1.5 seconds so that the delay knobs would change values in steps of 1 milisec.

I know you can use the fine tuning knob, but for me is unpractical in a lot of situations.

3-Reverse option for the looper.

And a dream: being able to record/sample in any mode ala Memory Man with Hazarai. I had it and that was an unbeatable feature, except for Time Factor sounds a lot better, dual delays, 100 presets...etc.

Love my TF. 

peterjh85
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peterjh85
November 01, 2010 - 08:56 pm

Dan, I would love the speed to be fast enough to mimic the EHX Deluxe Memory Man "Vibrato" setting.  I really love the "warble" the Deluxe memory man provides when the Vibrato is set to around 6 or 7 oclock.  Is it possible to get it that fast?

Thanks!

peter

ikebrown
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ikebrown
November 09, 2010 - 07:15 pm

can we have a good patch editor / Patch sharing utility please? so we can do present naming by typing it in on the computer....only just got my timefactor!

beedoola
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beedoola
November 11, 2010 - 01:38 am

1.) Redoing the "Bits" on the Vintage delay. Its kind useless. I see where Eventide is trying to go with it - adding that Analog noise but its not subtle enough. Perhaps if it was more subtle and added some other Analog like artifacts as it was increased.

2.) I have seen others mention that the filter on the Tape Delay can be too Bassy as you increase it. The Saturation control could be better. Maybe as you increase it, it adds more Tape like artifacts to the repeats.

Would there be a way to add a feature so you can choose what the filter knob does? like some sub menu feature? Like holding the Repeats button for 3 seconds while in play modes enters a sub menu for each control, or some controls, allowing one to have more manipulation over the sound.

The Filter on the Analog only acts as a High pass as you increase it right? Its Doesn't have a low pass option. Maybe making "Noon" on the knob No Pass at all and counter clockwise Low Pass increase and Vice Versa.

Anyway to add an Undo Feature to the Looper?

tonehero
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tonehero
November 17, 2010 - 11:31 am

I would like to see a reverb/delay/modulation into one setting. That could be kinda cool. 

kellenmills
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kellenmills
February 03, 2011 - 07:14 pm

I think it would be amazing to have a delay that does an octave up effect. kind of like the empress delay can do or the line 6 echo park.

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wedelich
February 04, 2011 - 03:17 pm

Hi Kellenmills,

Have you checked out Pitchfactor?  It can do all sorts of octave up delay stuff, plus much much more. 

-Russ

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timothyhill
February 04, 2011 - 06:36 pm
I'll second that. I've got both the TF & PF and I use the PF as much as a delay as I do as a pitch shifter, maybe more. More correctly, I use the delay capability of the PF as much as I use the pitch shift, usually both at once. I use the TF for "straight" delays (as in not shifted).
termozzz
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termozzz
February 11, 2011 - 12:00 pm

function two delays in series !

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October 23, 2011 - 12:11 am
kellenmills:

I think it would be amazing to have a delay that does an octave up effect. kind of like the empress delay can do or the line 6 echo park.

+1 !!!

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October 23, 2011 - 05:27 pm

On the modest wish list, I'd ask:

-Option to choose dry Left&Right signals on phase or phase reversed. Or something that would allow to patch the output1 into the input 2 so 2 delays in series would be possible.

-Fine tune parameters via mode knob: option to choose how many secods it remains active --> 2 seconds is not enough for me and I often change delay algorithm and feel frustrated.

On the not so modest:

-Reverse capability for the looper.

Thanks for the pedals and the support !!!