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sherbanico
Joined: Aug 9 2009
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sherbanico
August 06, 2014 - 03:25 pm

Oh and by the way this reverse/varispeed setting on the new looper is simply amazing! Wink

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AAgnello
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AAgnello
August 06, 2014 - 10:10 pm

Coupons don't expire.

almesy
Joined: Feb 22 2009
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almesy
August 06, 2014 - 10:26 pm

So i can do it now, even without owning the H9, and use later?  The instructions seemed to imply you had to have both the TF and the H9 at the same time.

I'm hoping you're right..

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gkellum
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August 07, 2014 - 10:36 am
almesy:

So i can do it now, even without owning the H9, and use later?  The instructions seemed to imply you had to have both the TF and the H9 at the same time.

Yes, you can update now without an H9 and use the coupons later. The instructions were saying that to USE the coupons you have to have both the TF and the H9 connected to H9 Control at the same time. The way the process works is that when you connect your TimeFactor to H9 Control the first time and verify your registration of your TimeFactor it creates an entry on our server for your TimeFactor with your two coupons. Those coupon entries stay there until they're used even if you don't have an H9 and even if you sell your TimeFactor to someone else.

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gkellum
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gkellum
August 07, 2014 - 11:01 am
niconaro:

can i rename preset on my macbook with the H9 software and export the adjustment on timefactor?

The simplest way to rename presets on your TimeFactor would be to go to the Preset List screen in H9 Control, you can click on  the icon representing your TimeFactor to look at all of its presets, and if you click on one of your presets to open it up, you can double click on the button representing a preset to rename it.

adistom
Joined: Jan 3 2009
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adistom
August 10, 2014 - 07:24 am

Hi guys!

i've got a big issue with the new update : i can't overdub anymore.

i press record while i play, press play and listent to my loop, no problem. Then i press record to overdub (not replace my loop) and the loop played is my new part not both (previous one and new one). I precise that the dub mode is latch only and not replace latch (i use the time factor for many years so don't say to me "it's not well parametered blabla..." Please. Waiting for your answers. Regards

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wedelich
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wedelich
August 10, 2014 - 10:45 pm

Hi adistom, 

I know you asked us not to tell you to check your parameters, but in the interest of good communication we need to be thorough, so:

- Are you sure DCY isn't set to 100?  This would act like the Replace functionality. 

- When you're doing the new overdub does the readout switch from P> to D> ? Or does is say R> again like you're recording? 

Answers to these question plus a detailed step by step to reproduce the bug would be helpful to us tracking it down.  

Thanks!

adistom
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adistom
August 11, 2014 - 02:42 am

Ok guys, my sincere apologies... My decay was effectively at 100. It seems to work fine now. I'm finally able to reproduce the metallica blackened intro :) Btw what is exactly the decay utility?

Cheers!

adistom
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adistom
August 11, 2014 - 04:58 am

Ok sorry again guys, i've just read the manual to refresh my memory and that'ts a feature that i doesn't use (dcy is set to 0% on mine). Have i nice day and keep doing great updates!!

Billy Foppiano
Joined: Sep 11 2008
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Billy Foppiano
August 11, 2014 - 12:49 pm

All is good ! So looking fw to working with the new system. My TF was the first pedal, and I love it, so now the ease of use is accentuated...and it's like getting a new looper.

I will run it thru the paces later today. BUt did I mention I LOVE all you crunchers at Eventide!!! Youse rocks!

benborman
Joined: Apr 14 2014
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benborman
August 11, 2014 - 07:31 pm

I don't know if spillover is on - my device was reset to factory settings when I applied the update, so whatever it is by default is what it is now. 

I think the squeal was happening going from Tape Echo to Digital Delay this last time.  

Billy Foppiano
Joined: Sep 11 2008
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Billy Foppiano
August 16, 2014 - 12:37 pm

Wow. Weird Voodoo in the pedal, re loops. To tell the truth, my pedal has always responded herky jerky to the loop algo. It would shave milli-secs and other anomolys, so I approched the new algos with open mind....At first, with my laptop hooked in, the first couple times I loaded any Loop algo, it was disaster...So much so, I didn't have the focus to report all the trainwrecks....BUT after the 5th or so go around, the algos seem to settle in without trainwreck.....weird.

The one question I have w/r to H9 app is : can we erase CC assignments on a per patch basis?This process would be really welcome as trying to do it on the pedal seems to invite um trouble. When I try to de-assign a parameter, the pedal will add a few parameters I haven't touched. So doing this on the H9 app would be welcome. And sorry for my brief last post. Gremlins were abounding, but now they seem gone....weird

Billy Foppiano
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Billy Foppiano
August 16, 2014 - 12:40 pm

Did you get my last post, a few second ago? I hope it didn't go done the rabbithole....

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gkellum
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gkellum
August 16, 2014 - 12:46 pm

CC assignments are global; they're not saved with the preset. The expression pedal patch is though and that can be assigned to a MIDI CC.

Billy Foppiano
Joined: Sep 11 2008
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Billy Foppiano
August 19, 2014 - 11:23 am

When you go back to the beta release, can you add a mapping and unmapping feature for Xpression pedal? It is cumbersome to delete assignments from the pedal.....When I try, I inadverdantly add a parameter that I didn't intend....AHYWHO, THAT would be a welcome feature!

I think there was a way to delate Xpression assignments in the old program...BUT it did it globally. I would like a per patch basis........jes sayin, er beggin! Heh heh.

BTW, I want to shout the love to you guys for the H9 program in Mac. I have 3 pedals(Space, TF, MF) and they ALL contribute mightily to mah sound....and H9 brangs it!!

frabo
Joined: May 8 2014
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frabo
August 21, 2014 - 01:05 pm

hmm, yes I have the correct power supply !

But when I switched back to V 3.5 everything works fine, also the setting saves !

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nickrose
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nickrose
August 21, 2014 - 01:23 pm

It sounds like you'll be happier on 3.5 - I would suggest you stay there until the next upgrade (later this year), which has significant enhancements.

If you want 5.0, you should probably "Restore Factory Settings" after the update.

frabo
Joined: May 8 2014
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frabo
August 21, 2014 - 01:35 pm

yes after every reboot ! :-((

Can't use it like this...

went down to 3.5 works well, up again to this beta- nope !

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nickrose
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nickrose
August 21, 2014 - 01:44 pm

Sorry you are having trouble. As mentioned, I suggest that you stay on 3.5 until the next update. If you still have trouble, you should send it in to be looked at (support@eventide.com).

wselman
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wselman
August 23, 2014 - 03:02 pm

I'm also having a similar experience. Using OSX (10.9.4). Launching the Eventide Direct Updater from the H9 Control. The Updater gets about 50% through the update process and then loses connection with the TF. The Updater tries to reconnect and then crashes.

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gkellum
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gkellum
August 23, 2014 - 03:24 pm

We have an alternative updater called oupdate that only runs on Windows that we recommend to users that run into these sorts of problems.  In this thread I walked another user through using oupdate to update his TimeFactor who was having no luck using the Eventide Direct Updater:

http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/9492.aspx

HellenButterlips
Joined: Aug 21 2014
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HellenButterlips
August 23, 2014 - 04:12 pm

Thank you for the quick reply. I tried the oupdate, but still having that weird display issue. Even tried updating the bootloader following the steps you outlined in the other thread, but the results were the same. I'll stick with v3.5 for now - hopefully it's only a beta issue (using a brand new TimeFactor, so i'm assuming it's nothing wrong with the pedal).

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nickrose
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nickrose
August 25, 2014 - 04:26 pm

Stick with 3.5 until the next release (week or two), which should have a fix for it.

deltadog
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deltadog
September 05, 2014 - 02:37 pm

Hey Russel, sorry for the late response. first off when i wrote that about the Version 5.0.0beta (59), the day after i checked the update utility and another beta and tried that out. i think it was 5.0.0 (2) or something...it isn't available anymore. and with that everything was fine (timing, recording, etc) everything worked out very well, but there was only no reverse looper featured... maybe that is already helping a lot.

another thing to mention is that it would be nice to have different modes for the looper. in 3.5 the loop was entirely played through which is nice to pitch down loops and the mode of the 5.0 where it restarts with the next 1. beat is nice for pad sounds. to choose if the looper should stop immediately or with the next beat would also be nice.

If you need the full explanation of what i did and what occurred, i could write that down but just pick the reverse looper out of the 59 beta and replace it in other version and I´ll be happy.

Greetz 

AFX2W1N
Joined: Jun 29 2014
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AFX2W1N
September 05, 2014 - 04:53 pm

I am having this exact same issue and have tried all of the steps listed (tried on both mac with direct update and pc with the outdate)... screen/parameters glitch/change

eeeskildsen
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eeeskildsen
September 09, 2014 - 04:24 pm

Hi!

Thank you for the speedy reply! Very appreciated!

[quote]

1. What version of the .bam do you have is it 5.0.0beta[59] or is it something else?  I ask because we had an issue where the wrong build went out a few weeks ago.

I have 5.0.0beta[59].

[quote]

2. Assuming you have the right version, what is your exact setup? i.e. what is before/after the TimeFactor, mono/stereo, etc.  

I haven't changed the position of my TimeFactor in my signal chain, so it would surprise if that has anything to do with the issue. I'm running mono in and mono out. An EHX Chillswitch before the TimeFactor and a Boss PS-3 after it. I have no AUX or EXP pedals connected and I am powering it with the original power supply.

[quote]

3. When you hit the Record button what happens on the Timefactor? Does it display the R> (with a running secs or beats counter) and you just don't hear any audio when you Play back, or does it just never go into the Recording State? 

When I hit the record button on my TimeFactor everything happens that should happen, the display shows the R> etc., and all other functions appear to be working. I have changed through the decay amounts, the record modes, playback modes etc., turned the mix volume up and down. There just isn't any recorded audio coming out of the TimeFactor(or no audio is recorded into the buffer).

I hope I am managing to be clear enough. Please let me know if you need more information.

Thanks!

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wedelich
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wedelich
September 10, 2014 - 01:24 pm

Hi eeeskildsen,

Very strange, obviously, we wouldn't have released a Looper that doesn't work, and I cant reproduce this here, so..... let's just start some in-the-dark troubleshooting.  As a first point, just for clarification, regarding the R> or P>, do the numbers actually change when it should be recording or playing, or do they hang at 0?  

Now, on to some troubleshooting: 

1.  Just to completely rule everything else out (I don't believe it is coming from somewhere else though), take everything out your chain, just go guitar into Input 1 of the Timefactor, and connect Output 1 to your amp.  Does Looper still not work in this configuration? 

2. Press and hold the right footswitch to put the TF into Bank Mode.  Is the bank that the Looper Preset resides in active?  You would know because one of the Red LEDs would be lit.  If no Red LED is lit, the Looper is bypassed, and you'll need to make that preset active by pressing the footswitch under it.  Does this get you anywhere? 

3. If you still don't have success after 1 and 2, does going to another algorithm and back to Looper (with the Encoder) cause it work?  If not, does initializing the pedal cause it to work (be sure to save your presets first)?  

That's enough to be getting on with, thanks for the patience and willingness to be a part of the beta testing.  

Best

cowudders
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cowudders
September 13, 2014 - 08:56 am

I can't get the looper to overdub anymore. I swear, it worked for a moment, i swear! But now [D:LATCH] [D:PUNCH]   behaves the same as  [D:REPL-L][D:REPL-P]. I didn't change anything, also circle powered the unit, etc ... according to the H9 editor i'm using 5.0.0beta(59)

adistom
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adistom
September 13, 2014 - 10:37 am

i had the same issue, check that dude :

- Are you sure DCY isn't set to 100?  This would act like the Replace functionality. 

- When you're doing the new overdub does the readout switch from P> to D> ? Or does is say R> again like you're recording? 

 


cowudders
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cowudders
September 21, 2014 - 11:25 am

adistom, hi, i'm 100% sure, Decay WAS set to 100%. so this acts like replace? thanks, didn't know, still don't understand why, but ... thanks!

adistom
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adistom
September 21, 2014 - 01:37 pm

You're welcome, i've been there ;)

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wedelich
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wedelich
October 02, 2014 - 04:50 pm

Hi AFX2W1N,

We just put up a new build that should solve your problems.  See my latest post for more info: 

http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/9660.aspx

AFX2W1N
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AFX2W1N
October 03, 2014 - 08:44 am

It works now! thank you!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

Kimmurray04
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Kimmurray04
November 19, 2014 - 07:10 pm

In November 2012 I exchanged emails with Jerome Hyman RE: Helpdesk Call No: 48441 - Timefactor vintage delay clipping

I had found that In the line level effects loop of my CAA OD100 amplifier with dip switches set to Line level on the Timefactor the Vintage delay algorithm would distort. Strangely all the other algorithms were fine. I sent a video demonstration and I was told the Eventide engineers had recognised the problem, mentioned it was a software issue and would try to fix it. I don't seem to be able to attach the video to this message unfortunately.

thanks,

Kim

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wedelich
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wedelich
November 20, 2014 - 04:25 pm

OK, I believe what was causing your bug was that you would save a Vintage Delay preset with Bits = 20 (the undistorted Delay sound), but your preset was loading with Bits = 5 (the intentionally distorted Delay sound).  

If this was the case (and we're pretty sure it was) the later updates should have this fixed.  

Kimmurray04
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Kimmurray04
November 30, 2014 - 09:32 am

Hi Russell,

i installed the latest beta software and after testing on gig last night it is still occurring. :(

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wedelich
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wedelich
November 30, 2014 - 10:16 am

Did you try to re-save the preset in question with the Bits parameter = 20?  Make sure the Bits = 20 sound isn't distorted in the first place of course. 

Kimmurray04
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Kimmurray04
December 08, 2014 - 08:43 pm

Ok. So I did some more testing and it is still distorting the repeats even at 20 bits. The distortion sounds different to lowering the bit rate, hard to describe but can be clearly heard on the video I mentioned i sent already.