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18watt
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18watt
February 01, 2008 - 02:26 pm
Eventide people, build me a reverb and my TC Nova Reverb will be on eBay! There simply isn't an "amazing" reverb pedal on the market yet, IMO.
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February 04, 2008 - 12:18 pm
Hi 18Watt, What makes an amazing reverb pedal? Dan
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18watt
February 04, 2008 - 12:30 pm

Hi Dan,

 To me, the ability to dial it in to sound either very "effected" or very realistic. Complete control over the length of the trail. Most of all, pristine sound quality.

I'm not an audio engineer so it's hard for me to be much more explicit than that - maybe an example might help? I enjoy the sound produced by some recent Lexicon rack equiment I've tried, but was frustrated that unless they were presented with a buffered signal they turned to mud. The TC Nova solved that problem and is in pedal format, but to my ears doesn't sound at all close the the Lexicon.

 I don't yet have experience with Eventide 'verbs to help the comparison, sorry!

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millertime
February 05, 2008 - 04:07 pm

Devili have a nova pedal and its quite nice. i would buy an eventide reverb pedal too.can never have enough reverb. i have a eclipse and an h8000fw and waiting on the ne pcm 96 for studio stuff.

houseofglass21
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houseofglass21
February 29, 2008 - 06:24 pm

 A reverse reverb is a must have as well as a 'shimmer' reverb like the Line 6 Verbzilla has but better. Reverb + octave up.


kelvinator
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kelvinator
February 11, 2009 - 09:06 am

It would be nice a Verbfactor I think it would be the first in my buying list if eventide make it. Since I bought a Timefactor I  wonder myself get a Reverb that mached reverbs in Eclipse that my brother owns. I like dense atmosferics reverbs and the only reverb that recreated this flavour are eventide reverbs, but I would like carry it as stompbox to my gigs in place of a complicated rack stuff.

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millertime
February 11, 2009 - 01:18 pm

you can dial in some nice short room verbs with the TimeFactor but then you have no long delay repeats...I CANT WAIT for the PITCHFACTOR....Thank you Eventide!!!!! This is the best thing since the economic breakdown....Geeked

Honch
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Honch
June 25, 2009 - 12:27 pm

No there isn't any amazing reverb pedal on the market. VerbFactor should be like the other ones, but not like TC NOVA delay in sound. It has no true bypass, and the reverbs are mostly fixed in length, however, there's a pre-delay and ducking. The only one that exists right now, the T-REX ROOM MATE is way too limited, and has limited use, but sound great in replacing spring reverbs for guitar. However, 3-4 user preset memory slots would be useful so one can start from there. Ducking, is mostly used in delay but I can see it's uses in reverb pedals. Pre-Delay is a must. And decay and diffusion of course. The TC just tends to sound "kkkkkrrrrrrrrrrrrr" at any reverb tail, no matter how you filter it. The Digitech Hardwire has Lexicon algoritjms in it, but doesn't really cut it. It's still quite cheap sounding.

damienl64
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damienl64
June 25, 2009 - 06:15 pm

Thanks for the insight on the lexicon one. I was considering it but let's wait a bit to see what the eventide guys can come up with

noah
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noah
August 26, 2009 - 10:02 pm

I've been looking a while for a great "all the bells & whistles" reverb pedal, but haven't had much luck with any of the few currently available on the market.

Some features I'd love to see in a potential VerbFactor:

  • seperate high and low shelving tone controls, or graphic/parametric EQ style control over the effect's tone, idependent of input tone
  • option to smoothly fade/ramp effect in from pre-delay offset
  • ridiculously long trail times, up to infinite for thick, washy walls of ambience
  • lots of mode types beyond standard spring, room, hall and plate - modulated, bigger to huge to giant halls, flerb, reverse, self oscillation/feedback, pitch shifted reverb, etc.
  • time based/envelope-like modulation of reverb parameters, for example reverb gets darker over course of a trail, density/diffusion increases over the course of a trail, pitch dives etc.
  • diffusion, density, early reflection and other detail oriented fine control
  • lots of expression pedal control over delay times, input signal level, modulation depth/speed, effect level etc.
  • spillover bypass
  • external FX loop for additional processing of the wet signal, cascading etc.

Gotta put in a vote for a nice, sleek charcoal/slate colored unit as well. Smile Thanks for listening.

mhenson42
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mhenson42
August 30, 2009 - 08:16 pm

^Charcoal/slate color would be my vote too.

baidie
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baidie
November 24, 2009 - 10:00 pm

The perfect Reverb Pedal . 1) Nice dense halls and plates with real sense of space and some decent decay time, say 30 - 60+ seconds, 200+ ms of pre-delay I have an old Roland RSP-550 with an overkill 480 seconds of decay time, it's unique. 2) The classic Yamaha early reflections including the reverse ones. 3) A decent Modulation Reverb, Boss has a nice one in the GT-Pro Rack unit,It sounds beautiful but I always wish for more decay and resolution. I'm sure Evintide would make a better one with more decay time for special effects. 4)A real room reverb, small, medium, and large algorithms. 5) A Gated Reverb, forward and reverse. 6) An authentic  Long Spring Tube Driven Fender  style Reverb 7) Some Eventide Surprises, The Octo effect on the line 6 verbzilla comes to mind. Rumor has it that it was an Evintide original called crystals or something, not sure and that black hole sounds nice too. 8) Last but not least, this pedal should have more than enough processing power and memory to rise above the norm, and some realtime control. Like a hold switch, etc. WOW!!! Thats all

quintessence
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quintessence
December 06, 2009 - 04:12 pm

So..... Winter NAMM is just over a month away..... might we be seeing a Verbfactor unveiling?

cosmogang
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cosmogang
March 16, 2010 - 06:29 pm

Eventide, if and when you make an amazing reverb pedal - I know you are going to have probably the sweetest "OCTO" type reverb, but I have a suggestion that has probably been made already.

Instead of just having a "shimmer/octo" mode, how about incorporating some of them sweet intelligent harmonies. I mean, can you imagine a shimmering reverb that is a major 3rd up/down from the note/chord being played? Ugh........if only.

Really though, you should also take what EHX did with the infinite reverb and improve on that too.

And of course - modulation.

But here is the kicker, the best way to have this would be if you could add these effects to a reverb model if you wanted to. Not just a "shimmer" reverb, but the ability to add the octave effect/modulation/infinite/reverse to the plate, hall, etc...of your choosing.

So - in a nut shell, here is what I want:

Optional Shimmer, Modulation, Reverse, Intelligent Harmony, Infinite/Hold on any Reverb model.

Also, if you could take what Line6 did with the Particle reverb and make it not sound so crispy.....that'd be cool too.

Really, I would buy a pedal like this as soon as it came out.

_Thanks for taking suggestions

-Alex may

gethyper
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gethyper
March 07, 2008 - 03:27 pm
Lots of people want the Kevin Shields/MBV reverse reverb or early reflections sounds. Those aren't available in a stompbox other than the discontinued Yamaha Magic Stomp. An Eventide stompbox version would be fairly compelling. http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=kevin+shields+spx+90&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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millertime
March 08, 2008 - 08:07 am

First off I'm almost 100% sure there will be a reverb pedal. and it will be stellar. i had my modfactor and timefactor up and running last night doing some guitar tracks for a new song.. They sound great togeather..I cant wait to get the reverb if it happens..I had to use my bogner Metropolis tube driven reverb which is awesome in its self but i would have loved to mix both an eventide pedal reverb with bogner's spring..I always do this I would use the early reflections from the eventide and let the spring reverb handle the tail. If you know how to do it it sounds killerDrinks

IDeangelis
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IDeangelis
March 10, 2008 - 09:55 am

 For the Eventide_aware users!!!

Which are the classic Eventide verbs you'd like to *SEE* in the Verb Factor?

What about Black Hole?

and then.....?

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millertime
March 10, 2008 - 10:16 am

real room

telenick
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telenick
April 18, 2008 - 02:37 pm
I am a happy timefactor/modfactor user. I really would appriciate a Verbfactor to. Make it ..we?ll buy it :) For my needs it should concentrate on getting the sounds right instead of using power on show off effects. Best wishes Nick
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millertime
February 11, 2009 - 03:01 pm

By the way Black hole would be great...It also tells me how powerful this VerbFactor would be to load that algorithm....

 I would like a quick user interface and an expert interface to choose from

sonson_prest
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sonson_prest
March 06, 2009 - 07:08 am

Verbfactor would be an awesome idea! It would need massive hall reverb with full wet mix - my idea of heaven! I play with a cello bow on occasion and having reverb like that sounds awesome! Maybe the inclusion of a fender twin type reverb and a warm plate reverb would be nice. A tails option (reverb continues to a natural decay when the effect is turned off rather than a sudden halt) that switches into true bypass when the reverb has finished decaying would be awesome - digitech hardwire reverb has a tails option but that means that the signal is buffered continuously meaning no true bypass at all.
robbykee
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robbykee
March 10, 2009 - 11:13 am
I totally agree with reverse reverb. I've also got the nova reverb, and it's good but not great. and while lots of reverb will affect the level of your sound, if i put more than say 40% reverb, then my signal is looses too much volume. i'd like something that's as good as the reverb plug-ins i use, instead of something that just sounds decent. being able to make it go from natural to very fake/effected/tinny would also be great. also, reverbs for small spaces, something like the phone booth reverb. and to go for the gold, if you guys do a pc/mac editor for it, if you had the ability to make convolution reverbs on the computer and add them a slot on the pedal, that would be totally amazing. Since you guys have ten effects per box, here's a list: 1. spring 2. hall 3. room (including a tiled/bathroom sound) 4. plate 5. ambient 6. reverse 7. shimmer 8. modulated 9. convolution 10. surprise me
jezzbo
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jezzbo
March 10, 2009 - 05:54 pm

 7ender outboard (3knob) spring reverb would be nice. I have an original but it doesn't fit on my pedalboard.Smile

The possibility of convolution reverb would be nice too.
Even more if we could add our own impulse responses. (Like in Apple Logic 8)
I assume that the reverbs on the high-end Eventide processors sounds great so a few of those would be very nice too.Cool

Thank you Eventide.

damienl64
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damienl64
March 13, 2009 - 07:37 pm
Stratospheric sounds like the crystals on the pitch factor stereo of course
damienl64
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damienl64
March 21, 2009 - 06:23 am
ressurected - pitch factor id shipping time to put that reverb plug in in a stompbox!!! Why??? More and more amps does not have reverb as a feature It's the most popular effect It's the most usefull effect Eventide as the kuddos Low competition (EHX and TC)
michael winston
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michael winston
April 07, 2009 - 12:33 am

 My verbfactor wish list:

 Midi IN/OUT - I'm not aware of any verb pedal that has similar MIDI control

And of course, the expression pedal is a must! 

Plate

Hall

Spring

Room

Octave/verb kind of thing (octo setting on Verbzilla..or crystals, although I'm not familar with it)

Reverse Reverb

Multi-tap delay/verb (like timefactor)

modulation verb

.... That's all the types of verb I can think of...  Surprise me.

The ability to have 3 presets across the bottom would be cool.

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badmelonfarmer
May 08, 2009 - 05:22 am

There is a thread on the gear page that has some interesting ideas:-

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=546029

I offered to post it as had an account on the eventide board too.

I would like to see big ambient reverbs as well as decent classic ones.

Cheers

 BMF

jonathan
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jonathan
June 06, 2009 - 08:34 pm
This thread was ambivalent-and-yet exciting enough to me to force a dig out of my forum password... Reverb is something I am very passionate about, and I would love to have an Eventide stompbox that could replicate my favourite rack-reverb sounds. If there were three units I'd love a reverb stompbox to be modeled on, it'd be the Lexicon 960L, Lexicon PCM70, and the AMS RMX-16 - legendary reverbs! Something that could truly replace those racks on the road in a travel-friendly size would be the ultimate (I am on the road 10 months of the year, and baggage allowance is always a consideration as a guitarist - I make do with a pair of Line 6 Verbzilla's when touring). To have something that could emulate the high quality and thick texture of these reverbs would be stunning - I'm yet to find a stompbox that TRULY sounds as good as the reverb I add in plugins and rack units when recording, whether in the studio or just on my laptop.

One of the reasons I stack two Verbzillas are the "special" reverb effects - mostly the Octo, and also tricks involving going from 100% wet to just a regular slap, with the 100% trailing over it. The ability to have a regular verb running, and then add a pronounced "effect" as well is and important trick for me as a guitarist, and gives me some of my more unique sounds. I play everything from fast paced Smiths-y pop to straight-out shoegaze with the bands I tour in. With that in mind, here is my wishlist for the inevitable "Verbfactor":

a) Ability to run two seperate reverb presets at once stacked, activated by the left and middle "___factor" chassis' footswitches, OR
b) Have a seperate section dedicated to "trail effects" activated by the middle footswitch. So, left footswitch engages the reverb, and then the middle one adds a modulation of some sort - octave up trails, chorused trails, reverse, hold, crash, etc, or a mixture of all of them, whatever you have selected...

I want to be able to get everything from Ennio Marricone guitar lines, to Phil Spector rolling reverb, to full on ambient-gaze wash out and reverse reverbs (ie Blonde Redhead, My Bloody Valentine). I don't doubt that in any half-decent reverb pedal I pick up I could find something "serviceable" to get me there live, but if you really wanted to take it to the next level, then I would "ditto" the request for an algorithm editor for Mac/PC - and a couple slots allocated for user presets (or perhaps the ability to completely re-organise all presets as the user sees fit, and a factory reset for when we mess it up...) When using software plugins, I've most liked the "Waves" plugin reverbs for the sound quality and UI for tailoring the reverbs (though admittedly I haven't tried as many software plugins as I have racks) - if it could be as functional as this, then you would be one more step of the way to having a hit on your hands. (The ability to get into the frequency multipliers, predelay, cutoff, EQ of the reverb's freq. response, control of the shape of the onset of reverb, size of space, diffusion, modulation, etc via a software editor OR the pedal itself would be the ideal here - obviously, the software option being more in depth for the advanced users who really want to get their sleeves rolled up.)

There's a really great post in the Gearpage thread about this too, from user "echo unit" - he's onto the same sort of buzz that I am regarding this, I think. I know it sounds like we want the world from an Eventide Reverb Pedal, but the thing is... we wouldn't be asking if we didn't think you could deliver, and weren't absolutely agog at the possibilities. Practically spagging for it, even... I really believe you guys could do it, too. Whilst there are plenty of competitors for your Timefactor and Modfactor currently in the market, nobody in my mind has truly nailed a great rack-quality reverb yet - if you could pull this off, you'd make a ton, I honestly believe that.

So, best of luck with it, and feel free to ask us anything more you want to know as far as focus grouping is concerned. I for one plan on popping back to this thread very regularly. :)

Warm springy regards,
Jonathan
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badmelonfarmer
June 10, 2009 - 02:54 pm

 Another thread on the Gear Page discussing reverbs....

"

Originally Posted by echo unit View Post
The Eventide Reverb pedal would be great but only if they include the ability to add modulation to the reverb tail like on the Boss RV-5 Modulation mode.

Long Reverb without modulation sounds ringy and terrible in my opinion.

Better yet, Eventide should make an algortihm for the reverb pedal that is modulating stereo delays with EQ controls feeding into a really spacey and long reverb that also modulates. Having the eq controls in the delay lines allows you to darken then and and thin them out a little making them less obvious and more imbeded into the reverb tail.

That one algorithm I suggest above would make the pedal a huge hit!"
 
Modulated reverbs..... yeah baby!
 
Again I offered to post to make sure you guys get all the best ideas Smile
 
another great idea.
Reckedtrek
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Reckedtrek
June 28, 2009 - 12:37 am

Having a few very natural sounding reverbs would be great. The difficult part is getting them to sound that way through a typical 4X12 cab, so some adjustable onboard EQing that only effects the reverb would be a nice touch and is pretty common.. As you normally have 10 types of effects per box, I'd suggest going with 9 reverbs and one delay with basic digital, bucket brigade and tape delay types. It shouldn't be too difficult as delay and reverb have alot of commonalities.  It would make the pedal even more flexible.

Meriphew
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Meriphew
July 06, 2009 - 01:42 pm

I would suggest putting it in a smaller box. I love the pedals, but they eat up ALOT of space on my pedalboard.

damienl64
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damienl64
July 06, 2009 - 04:38 pm

UPIdea

A verb does not need to be as complicated as delays.... please 

IDeangelis
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IDeangelis
July 06, 2009 - 05:04 pm

....let's see..

a knob to select verb type, one for decay, one for pre_delay, one for verb size, one for hi cut, another for low cut...maybe one for modulation, and obviously one for level is needed. That's already what? 8. Then maybe it may have some special verb variation fx that may require some other knob. Hard to get smaller IF good quality and verbs variety is desired.....

yep

I

oddb0d
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oddb0d
July 06, 2009 - 06:56 pm

+1 Shimmer Reverb. That would be killer.

grahamstuart
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grahamstuart
July 08, 2009 - 11:19 pm

I agree with what others have written about reverse reverbs, black holes etc..but one thingI would love would  be cool artificial filtering on the reverb too- my old E-mu morpheus had great filtering in it- things like cavitate, in addition to obvious choices like small medium large spaces...

there are lots of straightforward room reverbs- but I think going top end with cool reverb filtering etc would be what I would buy.

jcshirke
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jcshirke
July 16, 2009 - 07:23 pm

You guys have all the reverb types nailed down. Now it's time to turn to the important stuff--what color will the pedal be? ;)

TF=Blue

MF=Green

PF=Red

RF=Yellow! :) (Or at least that's my vote)

Jeff

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parasabda
July 28, 2009 - 02:19 am

As a happy owner of all three other eventide stompboxes i must say that the verb box would be a very exciting product on the stombox market.

I'll agree with jeff above, yellow would be pretty sexy for the verbfactors main color, however im conflicted myself between that and maybe a more white or grey colored timefactor as well. (or maybe even purple?)

lastly i'm sure most the features will sound awesome but would really love to stand behind these three previously mentioned features.

1. vintage spring reverb... finding a stombox that can accomplish the ridiculously wet springs sounds of the vintage units with control over more in depth things like spring size/amount/tension,  and the input type (tube/transister simulation?)... maybe even some way to modernize the "clashing springs" effect (tension modulation via lfo/env etc...). at least enough control over the sound to recreate the broad spectrum of spring verbs, especially the surf and dub reggae sounds i've never been able to reproduce  in a stompbox.

2. convolution reverb with impulse response. this could be the future of reverb, and an awesomely unique feature. advanced capabilities like uploading your own impulse response somehow would be amazing. perhaps even being able to create your own impulses on the verbfactor without usb connectivity would make this feature useful for those unfamiliar with such an complicated feature. This would even let some of us who would like to digitally replace our old pedals with a new custom impulse patches. of course allowing the transfer over usb would allow us to share each others impulse.

3. Reverse Reverb... gotta happen, i've thought about getting a magic stomp just for this effect and feel as though it would still leave me disappointed. It seems with tap tempo or dual reverse delays this would create something new and amazing. 

4. Eq focused reverbs.... being able to apply long(or short i guess...) reverb to just the high end of my signal or even an adjustable band of frequencies would be sexy. there are a few rack mount units but i could think of a lot of applications where this would be nice to have in a stompbox... i feel like the eq specific delay would a really nice option as well for the time factor, but you can't have everything.

either way, really excited to give this things a wirl one day, and look forwards to everyone else ideas/thoughts.

-tommy

Tentacles
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Tentacles
August 06, 2009 - 08:43 am

I just wanted to plus 1 the idea of making this. A Verbfactor would be exactly perfect for my needs and I'm indeed hoping you guys will decide to do it. I'm holding off on picking up a used MPX-1 in the hopes of a Verbfactor!

Stvy
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Stvy
August 16, 2009 - 04:49 pm

Hi,

I own a PF and TF and I would definetly buy a RF if one was made.....

I would love a really nice surf style verb. Think *** dale.

Thanks,

Stvy

quintessence
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quintessence
August 24, 2009 - 10:58 pm

I own a PF and am soon to be getting the MF. These are absolutely brilliant!!  A VerbFactor would be WAY at the top of my wish list. Please make it !! Big Smile

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quintessence
August 24, 2009 - 10:59 pm

Oh... and I second the motion for making it purple.

quintessence
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quintessence
September 28, 2009 - 10:30 pm

Uh..... now that the updates for the TF and MF are out...... Is it too early to start asking for a Verbfactor again?  Stick out tongue

thejay
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thejay
October 01, 2009 - 08:31 am
I agree...although I would want a VerbFactor too!
quintessence
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quintessence
October 20, 2009 - 04:35 am

Big Smile

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Andy Wild
November 12, 2009 - 12:50 pm

I have a modfactor and timefactor, Verbfactor? Yes please.

BTBAM
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BTBAM
November 22, 2009 - 07:04 am

These are the "must have" reverbs for me:

Plate

Hall

Realistic Spring

Room

Gated

Reverse

Modulated

Now adding the "octo" effect like some people mentioned would indeed be amazing.   That and a really deep reverb like the 'cave' setting or having an infinite switch like the new EHX Cathedral

jcshirke
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jcshirke
December 11, 2009 - 10:28 am

I was wondering the same thing about a possible announcement at Winter NAMM. Hmm...I guess we will just have to wait and see.

I would want the VerbFactor to have the best of both worlds, with equal parts vintage and modern reverbs. So long as it could do old-school Spring 'verbs as well as big, cavernous, more modern sounding 'verbs, or more specialized 'verbs with bells and whistles (octoverb, etc.),  I'm sure I'd be one happy camper.

Jeff

quintessence
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quintessence
January 11, 2010 - 06:20 pm

So, now that NAMM is just a few days away...... any wagers? 

jcshirke
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jcshirke
January 11, 2010 - 06:57 pm

Put me down for $10 on a VerbFactor announcement. :)

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badmelonfarmer
January 11, 2010 - 07:10 pm

hmmm, I'd like to think so.......

but I have no idea!

I know I would be first in the queue to pre order one in the UK!

I have an RV-5 that I use for Modulated Reverb alone, but hate the other sounds on it. having seen what eventide can do with delay, modulation and pitch.... I have been fighting the GAS of an EHX cathedral as I KNOW eventide can do better.

Cheers

BMF

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Lhama
January 12, 2010 - 06:40 am

Oh yes, please... It's the one piece of the puzzle I'm missing.