Ideas for future Timefactor update

As well as faster rate perhaps greater depth as well? Sometimes I like slow and deep. 

Also, I would find an 'Undo' function on the looper to be extremely useful - being a bit of a newbie to looping, if I finally get something good and in time down, I inevitably muck it up by playing my overdub incorrectly. Undo would be perfect! Perhaps hold down left and middle footswitches for this function, or an Aux SW assignment? 

And finally, this one may be impossible, but it's worth asking: I recently hooked up the TF to Reaper (a multi-track PC recording software), and was using the TF as a midi controller. Firstly very cool, but I would have enjoyed using the Encoder/Mode knob for things like track selection, thus freeing up one of the pots. Is it possible to use the Encoder as part of the midi controller, or is it limited to knobs only?

Thanks!

6 delay lines? Would it not be only 3? One left, one right and one center? 

 +1

Naming presets would be helpful. Perhaps via editor software?

Joerg 

 WIth the tempo on, each delay is set to some division (1/2, 1/4). Also, you can check if the tempo matches the tempo of the song. However, with 2 delays not set to a tempo, it could be any difference between the 2 delays, which do not relate to the tempo at all. It would be impossible to have one led for both delays! 

First, i want to say, that i know did four or five gigs with the timefactor and it's been a total different playing and "delaying" ;-) like with all other units i've used in the past! I got many quotes on the good sound, which isn't just the timefactor, but it's a big part! Thanks for such a great, useable and tweakable AND upgradable unit! a big score! For the future update topic: i know, there's been a final update a few weeks ago, but - is there a plan or date for the next update? or will you tell us users in a topic here, which suggestions are involved and part of it?! I already suggested in another topic a addition to the really great dynamic delay setting (which i never used in other units before and know really love!): i suggested a dynamic delay option in which the repeats/delay only appear, when the signal is above a chosen level: loud parts - delay, silent parts - no delay. i really hope, this is possible and other users would like this option as well. one thing i really think is a great suggestion, is a small support software for the TF an MF. you could install updates, save and load presets and - name them via PC/MAC. Maybe - as one suggested - even dial in settings and listen via midi to what it would sound like. another thing i think would be great: i love to use the aux switches - work great! the new "pedal aux switch" function is wonderful, but would be even more usable, if you'd have the option to choose "toggle" or "momentary" for this function and the repeat function. with this option, one could switch between two pedal settings as you could if you use a pedal and leave it at either heel or toe, or leave it at "toggle" for a hold-function (like it is now!). same thing for repeat - this is a switching function, but would be great if one could choose a hold function here as well. Next thing: Spill Over - a great and necessary feature, which is now good implemented, but would be great if you could choose the presets you want to spill over. sometimes i need it, sometimes i don't. but now you can only dial in spill over for every setting or none. would be better to choose and save with a preset! Last thing for me is the multi-tap, which is great sounding, expessially for reverb-effects, but it would be great if there would be a possibility for the user to set the number of taps (from 1-10?!). there would be much more options for great rhythmic-delay-settings here if it wasn't always 10 taps! I hope, some of this suggestions are possible and supported by other users! BTW - i think, the unit is great as is, and if there are changes i hope, that rather there are additions than replacements. Thanks a lot diego

+1 for naming presets!

+1 for an auto-volume swell!

 You guys read my mind.... PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE

 Oboti:

Hi there, it would be great if the tape echo had more low cut (is there any at all right now?) or an option to adjust the amount of low cut.

 Can't stress this enough! The repeats get too muddy as the high end "naturally" rolls off...A control for low end filtering (instead of hiss control) would be nice ;-)

 Will the FS1-3 settings settings not suit your purposes ?

These do apply to all presets, not just Looper, but they may be the best available compromise.

For more on FS1-3 see TimeFactor Version 2.0 Manual Addendum.

Thanks Nick - I'll give it a try! My concern is the existing condition under the new OS that if I have a pedal assigned to tap tempo and to an FS#, TimeFactor will lose the assignment to tap after each power-down.

I'll try the FS# combinations before rehearsal tonight - thank you! 

 I'll see if the FS switch settings serve my purpose, thank you for pointing those out as an alternative... it seems like the FS settings are just what the doctor ordered, if the assignments are properly recalled after each power-up.

Thank you very much :)

 I'm concerned that you lose settings -I'm not aware of a problem with this.

Are you using using the official supplied power supply ?

If so, can you give me an example of a sequence that is not saved ?

An example would be:

1) Power up

2) change tap switch setting to AUX T+R

3) Power down

4) Power up - setting is not saved.

 Precisely that process with a few more details:

1) Power up. Aux Sw does not function as desired, so...

2) on Utility/Aux Sw page, observe tap switch is already set to AUX T+R (as well as Looper Stop) as desired, despite the non-functioningseen in step 1.

3a.) Tap Aux switch to un-assign to TAP

3b). Tap Aux switch again to re-assign to TAP

3c). Switch works as desired, even after changing patches and banks 

4) Power down

5) Power up - setting is ostensibly saved and is visible as in step 2, but the switch has no effect until un-assigned and re-assigned.

In short, if an Aux Switch is assigned to two destinations (for example, Tap and Looper Stop), after restarting the box, one of the assignments is lost. I posted about it in the other 'hot' thread on the forums:

 http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/4995.aspx

Thank you for any and all help you can provide... if the FS1/2/3 assignments serve this purpose I'll be okay - but the behavior above is a little hinky. 

 Thanks - I can see it now. The TAP function goes away at startup.

My guess is that it only applies when one of the settings is for the looper but I'll look into it more deeply.

It's a bug - it will be fixed in the next release - don't have a date at this time.

 No rush - and thank you for your efforts - the TimeFactor is an exceptional piece of gear, and it really has taken my analog pedalboard to new places... I'm quite the anti-digital  snob but the TimeFactor has earned my love - it is the ideal 'end-of-the-chain' delay/processor for me.

 Micki

 One thing that would be great in an update would be the ability to assign the built-in footswitches (ie. Preset 1 and 2 in bank mode) to different things also. I will be using the Digitech FS-300 with my Timefactor, and it would be awesome to be able to assign the Digitech FS-300 to Preset 1, 2, and Tap Tempo, and the built in switches to Bank Down, Bank Up, and something else. This way I can have my footswitch at the bottom of the board closest to my feet because these are the most frequently used settings, and then I can switch banks with the pedal as the songs need it.

That sounds like an excellent feature as well... maybe even have one of the pedals as a 'Preset 1/Preset 2 alternate' button, so we can toggle between the two patches in the current bank and still use one switch for tap and another for bypass... :) 

 You can currently do that with a midi controller!  That's what I'm doing.

 1.Is it possible to increase the speed of the BandDelay to 9.99Hz ?

Now the maximum is only 5.01Hz.

 2.To have the feedbacks to have the same value when only one is changed like in the filterpong mode ?

 3.To have Delay Time A and Delay Time B to work together like a pingpong delay ?

for instance : Delay A : 1/2 -> Delay B = 1/4
for instance : Delay A : 1/4 -> Delay B = 1/8

Thank you

My suggestion to Eventide for v3.0 (or whatever comes next) is to add BYPASS as an option in the MIDI map menu. That way, if I want the unit to perform a relay bypss and remove itself completely from the chain on, for example, patch 106, then I can use Program Change messages and MIDI mapping rather than Control Change messages to do so.

As I see it, there are two types of TimeFactor users: those who don't mind doing the "pedal dance" and those who do. The prior group tends to use it like a more sophisticated stompbox, turning it on and off manually as needed. Most, I'm sure, never bother with MIDI at all.

For users such as myself and Larry who use the TimeFactor in conjunction with MIDI switch systems, CC is not a sufficient way to perform a bypass because we want to have one button change everything. Most MIDI foot controllers can send Program OR Control messages, but not BOTH simulteniously. This means that if I want to change patches on my switcher AND bypass my TimeFactor, I have to push two buttons.

I suppose I could make my TimeFactor take up a loop in my switcher, but since I only have 4, I'd rather save those loops for less sophisticated effects boxes.

So, Eventide Techs: If you're reading this, please add some way toBypass via Program Change messages. Thanks.

 Why not just make bank 1:1 a delay with no repeats and PC to that bank?  I agree it'd be nice to have the bypass as a PC but in the mean time... that shoudl save you some taps.

I also agree!

 Here's my thoughts on updates:

+1 on patch names

+1 on ability to re-assign the onboard pedals

 +1 on reversing the recorded loop

+1 for higher modulation frequencies

As for the tape echo, I see the Hiss and the Flutter controls as being more in the realm of Special FX as opposed to being anything usuable. Having compared it to my space echo extensively, I've noticed that a lack of low end and some saturation are very characteristic of what a tape echo is about, as well as the lack of top end and the wow. So for my money I'd definitely replace the hiss control with a high-pass filter and (perhaps more controversially) the flutter with a basic saturation control for the repeats. Another thing would be that the 110% feedback sounds way too nice and smooth but perhaps I'm being picky there.

 Something else I think would be pretty useful, especially for those on-stage-kneeling-on-the-floor-and-twist-all-the-knobs moments, would be to have an option in the system menu to set upper and maybe lower limits for the two delay time knobs. This would give them a higher resolution and make changes much easier and smoother.

 As others have said before, I am in love with this pedal and it has totally changed things for me so these aren't complaints. Thank you Eventide!

Another +1 for naming the Banks, it just seems so old school having bank numbers Another +1 for the computer editor (Mac too please!) This TimeFactor is really a great pedal! can't wait to try the Pitch Factor too! Cheers BMF

 +1 for mac editor. (ok and pc editor too )

 +1 on mac editor

+1 on reversing the loop

i wish a quantize funktion for the looper start/stop funktion.

when the Tf is in sync with midiclock,then push the start/stop with automatic quantize in

1/1  -  1/32".. raster..  .. .perfekt loops in sync with midiclock. 

The recently announced PitchFactor has MIDIclock out, controlled by the system tempo. 

 If this is well received, it will be incorporated into the next MF and TF updates.

 COOL

Thanks for that guys!

Counting down the days till I can get my grubby little hands on the PitchFactor.

planning and building my pedalboard at the moment so the midiclock, should help.

Cheers

BMF

Hi, i already suggested a few things for the future updates and hope that the one or other will be included. I got one more idea/request: Would it be possible to make a change to the Feedback of the Delays (or just one or a few of them), so you could choose between Feedback as it is now - with decay and 0 - 110 OR a Feedback with exact number of repeats (with and without decay) from 0 - infinite (or something). I often use the Timefactor for Rhythmic Delay Patterns and it would be absolutely amazing if i could dial in exact delay repeats - say 3 exact repeats left in dotted 8th and 1 repeat right in a half note. For perfect use in such situations it is a must, that the repeats have the same volume. this could maybe be dialable between no decay and natural decay (as it is now). I hope, i could explain it fairly well. I tried this with the Multi-Tap, but the number of repeats is not changeable. This would be amazing! And of course, i want to bring back my request for a "negativ dymanic" delay within the ducked delay - i.e. no delay if the signal is silent, delay only when the signal is above a set value. Thanks for an amazing unit, which i don't want to play without anymore! :-) Can't wait for the next update! Cheers diego

 +1 on the taptempo to controle multiple fx.

+1 on naming presets

another idea: Is there a possibility to add some sort of compare button?

In Logic pro I can compare two settings of an effect. So when I tweak my sounds I can compare to the orignal preset that was/is stored. This would be great because so I can hear if I make a better sound or just screw up things. 

This may have been mentioned but could eventide PLEASE increase the speeds on the modulation ?? At least on some of the delays ?? We would be able to get some great vibrato and leslie sounds if this were done. PLEASE ???

 Hey Nickrose,

How long do you think it will be before there is another update for the TF?

 I'd like to add a request for an option in setup, allowing you to disable 'live' changes to expression pedal programmming.

I prefer to have my TimeFactor on a bench where I can tweak it during performance and just have the Aux footswitches and expression pedal on the floor.

If you work this way and tweak the stompbox during performance, (while your foot is on the pedal), you inevitably end up reprogramming the expression pedal on the fly, sometimes with deafening, silent or other unintended results. This really makes the expression pedal more trouble than it's worth, for me.

Thanks,

Keith

Please increase the loop length (in 1x speed), and the number of presets ! 

Undo ability is a good idea !

 And a pc editor !

 I'd like to add a request for an option in setup, allowing you to disable 'live' changes to expression pedal programmming.

I prefer to have my TimeFactor on a bench where I can tweak it during performance and just have the Aux footswitches and expression pedal on the floor.

If you work this way and tweak the stompbox during performance, (while your foot is on the pedal), you inevitably end up reprogramming the expression pedal on the fly, sometimes with deafening, silent or other unintended results. This really makes the expression pedal more trouble than it's worth, for me.

Thanks,

Keith

I've encountered this now with all three Factors. For example, you have the pedal assigned just to wet / dry mix, and want to tweak another parameter, but you just used the pedal (hence the assignment indicator is still blinking) or your foot is resting on it, and before you know it you have misassigned parameters and have to do the heal / toe zero out procedure.... I ultimately use MIDI encoded expr assigned to a CC (assigned to a knob), but for impromptu jamming or tweaking, there could be a better interface. 

Maybe holding down the left-most footswitch while rocking the exp pedal heel to toe could activate the exp assignment mode?

 That would be great. I have not been using the exp. pedal because of that. Also there needs to be a way to remove all exp. assignments from a patch without going through each knob.

 A huge annoyance for me is the different setup for the filter in the different delays.  For example, I believe digital delay goes from -100 to 0 (knob at 12:00) to +100.  But for the vintage delay, it just goes from 0 to 100.  This drives me nuts, because I'll get the filter set, but I'll try to change the delay sound, and the filter is now totally wacked out.  Like if I'm on vintage delay & have the filter on 0, but I want to switch to mod delay, well now the filter is on -100.  Maybe the value of the filter parameter could just not change when the delay type changes.

Also... would really like a better analog sound.  I don't know about anyone else, but the  vintage delay with the bit adjustment just isn't very useful to me.  I'd much rather have an analog model with something like a drive knob, so you can get a nice fat analog delay sound.

+1 for preset/bank naming

+1 for parallel/series routing

+1 for better, dirtier, modulations

+1 for progressively fitering each delay

I think Eventide tried to emulate the characteristic range of "eq" in different analog delays, so of course the filter knob has a another effect than in the digital delay fx. Analog delays just couldn't sound as harsh as digital ones do. But I like the idea of a "drive" control instead of the filter knob. I have an old Ibanez AD9 which sounds awesome, and I never thought about changing its "tone". But dirtier delayed sounds are always a pleasure to my ears. It would be great to have a well "eq'd" basic analog delay with the opportunity to really thicken it up with some tube emulated drive.

The TF is very complex and it covers a lot of sounds, so I don't have a problem with different sounding parameters in different delay types at all. It would be terrible if all of them sounded the same!

Still my number one priority for an update:

let us name the presets, please!!! I'm tired of checking my setlist before every song to dial in the correct number. Would be far more intuitive and kinda personal to have names instead of  those cold, sterile numbers :-) No, really.

Would be nice of you developers to give us a rough estimation for a possible release, too. It's been quiet for a while now.