Eventides not Returning MIDI to Signal Path

Thank-you so much, gents, for getting back so quickly. They aren’t daisy chained because I understood that was not necessary when using a quadra through; in that, essentially, the signal would be transmitted to the eventides and sent back to the switcher over the same 5 pin MIDI cable. I’m brand new to MIDI and the user guide has been very difficult to understand…and…I’m certain that’s because I’m so new to the subject. I have a red indicator on the left foot switch and set the RCV CTL to “ACT”. Output in the SystemMIDI is set to Merge. What I think I’m seeing is that the red light is on at the left switch. So, I’m thinking it’s “on” but because of a setting I don’t understand it is not transmitting. I’m sure I’ve done something incorrectly but I don’t know what; can you redirect me?

Thank-you, Joe…I didn’t know that!

So, I got back on this today (Saturday, 2021.09.25). The setup is as previous with the addition of audio cables to put the Time Factor into loop 7 on my switcher. Same result – no change in my guitar’s tone. I set the RCV CTL to ACT. I understand – and this is kind of a question in my mind; I’m really new to MIDI – that there is a CC value that ties to the “ActiveBypass” change which must be transmitted from the switcher to the Time Factor along with the “Active” (rather than the bypass) value selected in order to activate it. But, I cannot find any reference to what that CC ActiveBypass identifier is and what the value for Active is. I know that I’m trying to do something incredibly simple and can’t understand from the owner’s manual how to do it. Does Eventide maintain a library of how to videos to help with this?

Thanks for all the help,

Brian

…a little bit more…I was able to see that, even if I set the pedal to “active”, a continuouschange command was being sent to set it to “Bypass”. So, I went into RCV CTL and setup a an active command as C!. But, I have questions that I hope answers to which will help me send the right CC from the switcher. The owner’s manual has the notation of BND – MIDI Pitch Bend with an associated numeric range of C0 – C99.

What is BND? MIDI Pitch Bend?

Is C0 the condition “Bypass” (Active Off essentially)?

Is C99 the condition “Active”?

Are there numeric values associated the external control destinations listed on page 51 (the list that goes BYP, BK+, BK-, etc…not the KB) and following)? I ask because the switcher requires that I identify the “Active” indicator toggle by a number and then express a numeric that is either “Active” or “Bypass”. Said another way, there are 2 numeric fields one that identifies the toggle and one that tells its condition.

Thank-you for your help,

Brian

Thank-you so much for your thoughtful explanations…and….they really help. You asked a couple of things of me: 1) my audio route beginning to end 2) and experiment with it sending MIDI signals while going directly in from guitar and directly out to the amp.

My signal chain is: guitar in via a Mesa Boogie High Wire to switcher; Loop 8 is the Timefactor and, therefore, loop send from the switcher goes into mono in on the TF, mono out on the TF goes to loop 8 return; then the out from the switcher goes to the amp. There is no effects loop on the amplifier.

I used all four factor pedals sequentially for years without a switcher…and…they worked perfectly, couple of repairs needed by Eventide repair shop along the way, but, they worked great. When I bought the switcher, I did as you suggested and connected the MIDI to the TF but went in directly from my guitar and out directly to the amp as a test to begin to get a feel for it. It worked great, so, I went into this with a great deal of confidence.

I’ll work on what you’ve noted above…Brian

If I’m restating prior territory, it’s because I can’t find it in the string….I went directly into and out of the TF without the switcher and it worked perfectly. Going directly in and directly out, but, using MIDI to change the TF delay times didn’t affect my tone. Therefore, given where we’ve been, in RCV CTL I set up for destination BYP – C0 and ACT – C1. If I then send C1 – 127 it should make the TF active and, conversely, C0 – 127 would make the TF inactive, correct?

YES!! YES!! YES!! I think there is a fault in my TF pedal. Why? I got so frustrated with it that I tried my Space and it worked – twice. Then, I tried my Modfactor and it worked! So, I did a factory reset on Timefactor and tried it clean with a fresh setting in a bank…and…it didn’t work. But, with everything connected and manually changing the effect to a reverse and then back to Vintage with A & B programmed – it worked. And, that was something I was seeing when it was in series and I wasn’t using MIDI on my board. I would always have to shift it to a different effect and then go back to the one I wanted. Given this, would you also conclude that the pedal needs to be looked at?

Thanks again,

Brian