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    • #174095
      Danmusic1968
      Participant

        I am experiencing some difficulty using the looper on the H90.

        To get the most out of the looper does it require a separate three button switch or MIDI controller? I can’t seem to figure it out on the control app but only the one button looper which is not very convenient or user friendly.

        Maybe their is a video on YouTube on how to properly utilize it.

        Thanks in advance

        Dan

      • #174097
        tbskoglund
        Keymaster
        Eventide Staff

          Hello,

          Yes, if you’d like more control beyond the 1-button looper, it is best to use a 3-button aux switch or MIDI controller.

          If you’d like some tips or advice about using the 1-button looper, I am happy to offer some help.

          A user has posted a great looper tutorial here: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/looping-with-the-h90-part-1-basic-setup.2478513/

        • #174174
          brock
          Participant

            Great work with a complete looper overview.  I tried adding all the other installments in one place (flagged as spam for too many links).

            So here they are, one reply at a time.

            Looping with the H90, Part 2: AUX/MIDI transport

            https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/looping-with-the-h90-part-2-aux-midi-transport.2478752/

          • #174175
            brock
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            • #174176
              brock
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              • #174177
                brock
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                • #176151
                  brock
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                  • #177211
                    jimfowler
                    Participant

                      well, I didn’t buy this for looping so this is a bit of a moot point but here goes nonetheless:

                      1. Can I not freely assign controls to ANY of the 3 switches?  Like EDP+ footpedal layout for example…

                      2. When trying to toggle through the switch assignments while a loop is playing (via the LED buttons immediately above the footswitches) the display immediately reverts back to the transport time readout…which makes it hard/impossible to change the assignment of this switch.  Now this wouldn’t normally be a problem but I can’t seem to freely assign, say “latch replace” to another switch.

                      (trying to upload a quick video but no worky)

                      • #177224
                        tbskoglund
                        Keymaster
                        Eventide Staff

                          1. Correct. On the H90, you can only assign P parameters to the P footswitch, A parameters to the A footswitch, and B parameters to the B footswitch.

                          2. The looper transport will always be displayed when either 1-button looper, record, or play is assigned to the footswitch. It sounds like this is what you are experiencing.

                          I would recommend using only the 1-button looper and not changing the footswitch assignment, or using a MIDI controller or 3-button aux switch if you’d like access to more looper transport controls.

                        • #188246
                          awiens
                          Participant

                            I’m confused on this setup as well. When I have the looper preset on, and I’m in perform mode, I have to scroll to the third page of footswitch assignments to get to the REC PLAY STOP. Can I get these to be assigned to the first page? Seems odd the way it is setup and I can’t seem to see how/where in the H90 Control software to set these. I see FS1-6 parameter settings, but that doesn’t seem to be getting me what I need for the looper controls.

                        • #177244
                          jimfowler
                          Participant

                            Noted and thanks.

                          • #187505
                            brock
                            Participant

                              Looping with the H90, Part 7: Loop Start and Length

                              https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/looping-with-the-h90-part-7-loop-start-and-length.2615060/

                              All I can say, Mr. Celticelk: You really get it.  We are very much on a parallel paths, down to controller choices, multiple instances, and combo-algos.  An endless Program List(s) in progress here, while compiling the tips ‘n’ tricks I’ve run across.  Mix control behavior, to name just one.

                            • #187576
                              fiddlercrabseason
                              Participant

                                I would still really like the ability to disable catchup.

                              • #188249
                                brock
                                Participant

                                  I… in perform mode, I have to scroll to the third page of footswitch assignments to get to the REC PLAY STOP. Can I get these to be assigned to the first page?

                                  No, these were ‘added access’ pages, locked to pages 3 or 4.  To date, anything beyond the standard 2 page flip is unique to the Looper algorithm.

                                  … Seems odd the way it is setup and I can’t seem to see how/where in the H90 Control software to set these. I see FS1-6 parameter settings, but that doesn’t seem to be getting me what I need for the looper controls.

                                  It had me scratching my head at first, too.  I don’t believe there is a way to map those in H90 Control.

                                  I assign REC PLAY STOP on the pedal itself.  In Perform Mode, press the corresponding LED switch below each page 3/4 Looper command, and dial the Quick Knob up to your desired AUX or MIDI switching command.

                                  I’m no big fan of Global mapping assignments, with one exception: a mapping to Perform Mode.  I’ve found it invaluable for switching Perform pages, especially when using two Looper instances.  CC#4 has become my permanent page-turner.

                                • #188250
                                  awiens
                                  Participant

                                    Thanks for the response. I think am still missing something. In Perform Mode on Page one, when mapping Performance Parameters, I hold down the first LED to assign a Parameter, but only see Act/Byp, Act/Byp(M), Hotswitch1, Hotswitch1(M) and Tap on the [P] LED for instance. I see more options on the [A] LED, but that’s the only one.

                                    I want to be able to go to this program and immediately see the REC PLAY STOP (which I think is what you are saying). I don’t want to have to switch to that program, and then also have to hit another button twice to page through until I see those controls.

                                    • #188251
                                      tbskoglund
                                      Keymaster
                                      Eventide Staff

                                        Hello,

                                        If you save the Program while the Looper page is active, the H90 will remember this and that will be the first perform page that is available when you load that Program. Let me know if you need help getting this to work.

                                      • #194212
                                        fjurden
                                        Participant

                                          I am having only *partial* success mapping midi commands (from Morningstar MC6 Pro) to H90 Looper.

                                          Looper is in A; B = Bypass.

                                          Perform page 3 shows 3 actions associated with each H90 switch: Record, Play, Stop (Long = Erase).

                                          I hold down the LED above P switch on the H90, set to an arbitrary midi CC (in this case #30).

                                          Hold down LED above A, set to CC# 31.

                                          For B, set to CC# 32.

                                          Save.

                                          Note: the looper works as advertised when using the buttons on the H90.

                                          But when I program the MC6:

                                          • I set one switch on MC6 to send CC# 30 to H90 (on appropriate channel).  Good news: when I hit this on the MC6, H90 records.  Yeah!
                                          • I set a different switch on MC6 to send CC# 31 to H90; when I hit it after recording, H90 plays loop.  Yeah!
                                          • HERE’S THE PROBLEM: I set a different switch on MC6 to send CC# 32 to H90; when I hit it during playback, NOTHING HAPPENS.  H90 continues to play.  I tried re-assigning the CC# to a diff value (in case H90 doesn’t like the number 32?!?), same outcome: Stop doesn’t work from MC6 but play and record do?!?!

                                          Any guidance would be appreciated.

                                           

                                           

                                      • #188259
                                        awiens
                                        Participant

                                          Okay thank you very much. I got it to work. But, I would have never figured that out on my own. Is that documented somewhere?

                                        • #188261
                                          brock
                                          Participant

                                            Actually, it was a new enhancement that rode in with the additional Looper pages.  1.9.7 Release Notes.  You can usually find all of the latest breaking news in the sticky threads at the top of this forum.

                                          • #194213
                                            brock
                                            Participant

                                              … HERE’S THE PROBLEM: I set a different switch on MC6 to send CC# 32 to H90; when I hit it during playback, NOTHING HAPPENS.  H90 continues to play.  I tried re-assigning the CC# to a diff value (in case H90 doesn’t like the number 32?!?), same outcome: Stop doesn’t work from MC6 but play and record do?!?!

                                              I tried to reproduce this, same setup.  Stop & (long press) Erase both work as expected, even mapped to CC#32 (or any other CC# I tried).  I’m thinking it has to be on the MC side of this equation.

                                              Anything jump out as different in the Action / Message types, comparing Rec / Play to Stop?  Maybe bring up the MIDI Monitor to see if anything looks funky on that end.

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