I think my main problem was/is a lack of understanding of what the parameters control, specifically in modfactor. It could be that my ear is just not tuned enough to what the parameters are controlling. There are some parameters that sound like they do nothing to me. I thought I could be missing something simple because I always hear how people are “deep editing” on the H9 but when I use H9 Control, I only see about 10 parameters to control. I don’t really consider that “deep editing”. I thought maybe there was another level of editing I was overlooking. I may spend some time, at a later date, analyzing some of apalazollo’s preset settings to figure out where I was going wrong but for now I am happy with them as they are. I really appreciate everyone’s input. I am glad I decided to start this thread before listing the H9 on Reverb.