ALTERNATE TUNING SYSTEMS – PITCHFACTOR?

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    • #111046
      axxis272
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      i would like to ask whether you are planning to release an update with alternate tuning systems (pure, pythagorean, meantone, wendy carlos etc.). i think this topic will be more and more important in the near future, since almost all the software instruments have microtuning options and i would like to be able to play the guitar in any alternate tuning system that exist.. please help! thanks!

    • #124702
      NikosGuitar
      Member

      i am not a dsp engineer,but i do believe that Eventide's pitch shifting algorithms serve different purposes than those that you mentioned,but it may better to wait an answer from an Eventide member.

    • #124704
      brock
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      release an update with alternate tuning systems

      Fascinating suggestion!

      I'm a huge fan of using micro- & macrotonal scales or historically accurate tuning in software instruments.  I wonder if there is any way of applying a Scala type of overlay on the PF scale.  I would think that you'd almost have to 'borrow' the HarModulator's chromatic scale, then apply selective tuning to each scale degree in a Diatonic / Quadravox selection.

      Now – to address how much user demand would justify the R&D …  We're back to the custom scale idea that pops up here often.  Perhaps it's something that can be considered in the reported H9-style editor for the Stompboxes.  Even one custom scale in the PF could be converted to a blues scale, Super Locrian, or Hirajoshi in a programmable editor environment.

      Even if you're uninterested in alternative tunings, consider this:  Per-note detuning effects.

      With the Mix set anywhere but 0% or 100%, each note played can have it's own pitch deviation in cents.  In other words, an adjustable MicroPitch effect that is controlled by the notes you play.   It's a killer effect on the software synths that I use.

      Not to mention bringing a few more keyboardists into the fold with the ability to reflect an instrument's emulated and actual tuning.  I can see where it may be difficult to 'quantize' where any input pitchbending would snap to the next scale degree, though.

    • #124713
      BarneyBrown
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      +1 excellent idea and seemingly easy to implement too!

    • #124714
      axxis272
      Member

      thanks for the reply, but i don't quite understand if your answer is yes or no to my question:

      is it possible to use alternate tuning systems in pitchfactor?

      thanks again!

    • #135551
      BarneyBrown
      Participant

      The scales available with the Diatonic and Quadravox algorithms in the most recent Pitchfactor software include the following:

      [MAJ] – Major
      [min] – Minor
      [DOR] – Dorian
      [PHRG] – Phrygian
      [LYD] – Lydian
      [MLYD] – Mixolydian
      [LOC] – Locrian
      [Hmin] – Harmonic Minor
      [Mmin] – Melodic Minor
      [Wton] – Whole Tone
      [ENIG] – Enigmatic
      [NPLT] – Neopolitan
      [HUNG] – Hungarian

      No idea if there are plans to add more or not.

      By the way, can anybody recommend some reading material (preferably a book) on the historical use and development of scales? I wasn't aware of the Wendy Carlos or Pythagorean scale before and they're absolutely fascinating. I'd love to read how ideas for scales and modes developed over time.

    • #135552
      brock
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      can anybody recommend some reading material (preferably a book) on the historical use and development of scales? … I'd love to read how ideas for scales and modes developed over time.

      If you download the Scala archive here, unzip it, and open each .scl file in a text editor (4200 of them), there's a very brief description of the scale.  Unfortunately, the file names are cryptic, but you can decipher how a scale is constructed with a basic knowledge of cents, intervals, and octaves.

      I've always referenced some very old books which may or may nor be in print anymore.

      My 'bible' has been:

      Twentieth Century Harmony – Creative Aspects and Practice by Vincent Persichetti

       

      Other references:

      Introduction to Contemporary Music by Joseph Machlis

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      Music Cultures of the Pacific, the Near East, and Asia by William P. Malm

       

       

      There's more (not in front of my bookshelf at the moment).  No one book – that I've found – seems to cover it all.  I'll even go back to some sheet music compilation books like John McLaughlin & The Mahavishnu Orchestra.  If you find a complete historical reference, I'd be interested in hearing about it.  I tend to piece the concepts together from online & print sources.

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      chrysalis
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