Anyone able to replicate the Hazarai MBV sound on Timefactor?

[barrycreed]

Hi all

At around 3:50 onwards, I would like to try and replicate this sound on the Timefactor. Anyone think it is possible?

If I can, it would free up pedal space and mean I could sell my Hazarai and just use the Timefactor for all delays!

These are the Hazarai settings:

Mode: Multitap 1 sec

Blend: 12 o’clock

Decay: All the way up

Filter: 12 o’clock (not sure what setting this would be on the Timefactor)

Repeats: Between 11 and 12 o’clock

Delay: Between 9 and 10 o’clock

Just a case of copying and seeing what happens?

[brock]

barrycreed wrote:

These are the Hazarai settings … Just a case of copying and seeing what happens?

I don’t think that’s going to work 1:1, as seemingly similar parameters represent different things in the TF & EHX (assuming MultiTap in each).  The good news is that I think it can be done, with a few minor adjustments.  So here’s what we’re after:

• Blend: 12 o’clock – should be about the same in TF Mix (but I don’t recall if 10-11 o’clock is closer to 50:dry / 50:wet or not).
• Decay: All the way up – TF Depth (Delay Tap Taper) should be around -5, on down to -10.  Speed (Delay Tap Spacing) at 5 to start.
• Filter: 12 o’clock (not sure what setting this would be on the Timefactor) – I’m going to say Filter at 0.  Low pass, in opposite knob directions.
• Repeats: Between 11 and 12 o’clock – Here’s where it gets tricky: the number of taps.  TF has a fixed 5 for Dly A + a fixed 5 for Dly B.  That EHX setting might be 12-15 taps, more or less.  I’m thinking Dly A set to 1/2 of the Dly B time (with Dly Mix at noon).  That should get you close enough with 10 staggered taps.
• Delay: Between 9 and 10 o’clock – another tweak by ear.  With the EHX range between 0.6 mS & 1050 mS., somewhere around Dly B at 400-500 mS + Dly A at 200-250 mS?  Hard to tell when the distortion kicks in on your example, but it didn’t impress me as being that long, for the total length of taps.  Start with Dly B around noon, dial it down, and then adjust Dly A down until you hear the taps offset from each other. (It might be easiest to hear using stereo ‘phones).

All theory & conjecture at this point, without having MultiTap in front of me to confirm. For example, I don’t know whether a touch of Xnob (Slur) will be beneficial, if Fdbk A / B will even apply, or can possibly enhance the effect.  But it’s someplace to start from.  When I get the chance, I’ll follow up.

[barrycreed]

@brock. Thanks so much! That is really helpful. I’ll try it out this week with the Timefactor! I am hoping to get reasonably close with this experiment.

[brock]

Well, I’m not too happy with matching up the TF Depth / Taper to the EHX Decay / Rise.  Sounds like the tap buildup is over an exponential curve.  I compensated somewhat, adding extra Wet Mix.  Feedback A (optional) is just there to double up on Dly B.

You’ll be able to tweak it closer with a side-by-side comparison.  A touch of Xnob / Slur does add a little separation from your dry input, but any amount is going to blur out the attacks, to some extent.  Of course, Dly B can range up to 1050 mS, but I’d keep Dly A around half of that, to increase the apparent taps.

[barrycreed]

@brock Excellent! I will try this and report back. An approximation would be good enough for me. It’s going to be layered with other effects in any case!

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