How to use sidechain on Equivocate with Cubase 8.5?

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- September 20, 2017 at 2:40 pm #114369
  D Honey
  Hi.
  
  I think ‘Match EQ’ in the Equvocate will be so useful with me, but don`t know how to get it work with cubase 8.5.
  
  The plugin information says it`s ‘vst 2.4’, and I see Cubase provides sidechain function with the ‘vst 3.0’ above.
  
  I tried to make it work using group channel track and other things, but still in maze.
  
  Could I get any hints?
  
  Thanks.
- September 20, 2017 at 2:58 pm #147190
  DGillespie
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  Eventide Staff
  Hi D Honey,
  
  Are you not having success with the group bus method? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzbeYuzmwI0
  
  Have you tried aligning the tracks such that they're playing at the same time?
  
  Dan
  - September 20, 2017 at 3:15 pm #147191
    D Honey
    DGillespie wrote:
    
    Hi D Honey,
    
    Are you not having success with the group bus method? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzbeYuzmwI0
    
    Have you tried aligning the tracks such that they’re playing at the same time?
    
    Dan
    
    Hi Dan.
    
    I already know how the sidechain works, but what I confused with is that the Equivocate Plugin doesn`t have built-in SC button inside.
    
    So although if I make the group bus and send it correctly, the tracks only just plays at the same time.
    
    I just don`t know how could make it be done…
- September 20, 2017 at 3:25 pm #147192
  dantelee
  Participant
  I too want this function. There seems to be no option to side-chain this plug-in using Nuendo/Cubase that I can find.
  
  I read the reply and followed the link to the Cubase video on sidechaining. Thanks very much for the reply but it does not address the issue. To side-chain in Cubase and Nuendo the plug-in must have a side-chain “button” available on the plug-in gui. There is no such “button” on this plug-in available in Nuendo and most likely Cubase either as they share the same engine.
  
  Any input would be very appreciated.
- September 20, 2017 at 7:45 pm #147196
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  Sorry guys, I posted the wrong video above. This is how to do it with a VST2.4 plug-in. It's a little more confusing, you have to use a quadro bus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI1s6HnTccM
  
  I will look and see if it's possible to do a VST3, but it won't be immediately.
  
  Dan
- September 20, 2017 at 9:41 pm #147199
  musictech77
  please make a vst3 version ! 🙂 We cannot use the ”match eq” function in cubase
- September 21, 2017 at 9:16 pm #147205
  ClarkParker
  Participant
  Hi there,
  
  EQ sounds nice and I like the gui but unfortunately eq matching is not working in Cubase 8.5 (because of vst3) and the suggested “trick” by using a quadro channel doesn’t work either for me… the plugin seems not to get input from the “back” channels… it’s a pity…
  
  But thanks anyway for the great plugin… appreciate it… perhaps a vst3 version is coming in the future!
- September 22, 2017 at 2:13 pm #147208
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  Thanks Guys,
  
  We're looking in to this.
- September 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm #147213
  lavoll
  Participant
  same with Nuendo… but I suspect you already figured that out 🙂
- September 23, 2017 at 5:44 pm #147214
  D Honey
  In Cubase 7.5 it seems to work… Devices/VST connections/Add FX/quadro configuration/add child bus to FX-“stereo”/add child bus to FX-“stereo (Ls Rs)”. Insert EQuivocate on the FX bus and there we have the two inputs, “stereo”, and “stereo (Ls Rs)” as sidechain. But I’m new to the process, so might be wrong…
- September 24, 2017 at 3:01 pm #147217
  JX3D
  I got it to work in Cubase 9. and it onlty took me an hour or two.
  - I created 3 quatro (not stereo) groups
  - 1 for the main signal to be processed.
  - 1 for the sidechain
  - 1 for EQuivocate
  - On the inserts on the first two groups I added Steinbergs MixConvert.
  - In MixConvert I routed the main signal group to stereo (should have worked without this, but it didn’t – which is partly why it took so long).
  - I routed the output to No Bus.
  - In the sidechain group I routed MixConvert to Stereo (Ls Rs).
  - I routed the output to No Bus.
  - in the EQuivocate group I inserted EQuivocate.
  - I routed the output to Stereo.
  - Then I used send from the channels I needed to process to the first group.
  - I routed the output to No Bus.
  - And then I sent the channels for sidechange to the second group.
  - I routed their output to Stereo.
  - Then I could open EQuivocate in the last group and match the signals.
  I hope the sidechain button comes soon, because this was a pain in the… yes you know 😉
  
  -Henrik J. Larsen
- September 24, 2017 at 7:20 pm #147218
  lavoll
  Participant
  Impressive, Henrik!
  
  (but not something i foresee becoming pat of my workflow 😉 )
- September 25, 2017 at 8:29 pm #147225
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  Hi Guys,
  
  Since this is super complicated I spent the weekend on a VST3 version, which seems to work. It's version 1.0.2, and it should be available on the Eventide website tomorrow.
  
  Dan
  - September 26, 2017 at 2:25 am #147238
    dantelee
    Participant
    DGillespie wrote:
    
    Hi Guys,
    
    Since this is super complicated I spent the weekend on a VST3 version, which seems to work. It’s version 1.0.2, and it should be available on the Eventide website tomorrow.
    
    Dan
    
    You Rock, Dan!
    
    Thank you so much!!
- September 25, 2017 at 8:37 pm #147226
  JX3D
  Thats good news Dan. Thank you very much 😉
  
  -Henrik
- September 25, 2017 at 8:41 pm #147227
  ClarkParker
  Participant
  OMG… that was fast!!! Thanks Dan, can’t wait to test it!
- September 25, 2017 at 9:45 pm #147233
  musictech77
  Great!
- September 26, 2017 at 2:31 pm #147247
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  1.0.2 with VST3 is now live on the site.
- September 26, 2017 at 2:31 pm #147248
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  1.0.2 with VST3 is now live on the site.
  - September 26, 2017 at 3:15 pm #147252
    dantelee
    Participant
    DGillespie wrote:
    
    1.0.2 with VST3 is now live on the site.
    
    Hey Dan,
    
    Sorry to be a bother, you are helping so much but the windows zipfile for 1.0.2 is empty? Or am I missing something?
  - September 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm #147254
    D Honey
    DGillespie wrote:
    
    1.0.2 with VST3 is now live on the site.
    
    Thank you for your effort very much!!! Dan.
    
    But there`s a tiny problem…..the 1.0.2 update file uploaded is 0KB both MAC and WIN…
  - September 26, 2017 at 3:38 pm #147255
    musictech77
    DGillespie wrote:
    
    1.0.2 with VST3 is now live on the site.
    
    hi..it seems that this zip file is corrupted or damaged
- September 26, 2017 at 3:48 pm #147256
  DGillespie
  Moderator
  Eventide Staff
  Sorry Guys,
  
  We screwed up, but the link is fixed now.
  
  Dan
- September 28, 2017 at 10:42 am #147272
  D Honey
  thanks a lot, Dan, works perfectly!
- September 30, 2017 at 11:50 pm #147299
  comsax1
  Participant
  Thanks
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