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thanks for that quick reply Nick and the info, I seem to be getting bits working gradually but seems a bit buggy.

I got the unit receiving patches, and did a quick test where i changed the text only on a reverb patch from it's banks, and it worked. But afterwards I tried to send a very simple patch whilst working through the manual, worked ok, then I tried to add a knob, but then it didn't work. I tried multiple times to send and sometimes an error would come up. I don't know it off hand but I'll check soon and get back to you, thanks again.