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June 16, 2023 at 9:16 am #171980
brock
ParticipantI’ve seen some discussion about consideration for a dedicated FREEZE algorithm. I have also been thinking about what that might entail; separating it from all of the INF / FREEZE reverb parameters. The new SIFT algo offerings, as well.
I use FREEZE a lot for flavoring, with non-Eventide units as well. I am happy with the variety of effects I can get, using the H90 offerings. Each one brings its own strengths. Sampling the input, though, can be very different from freezing a reverb sample, or even a pitch-shifted one.
What do you think a “dedicated” FREEZE algorithm might need, in your own situation? I’ll start with a few possibilities, which aren’t necessarily high on my ‘wish list’ (although some are):
- Variable Attack / Decay parameters. Not unlike the HotSawz ones.
- Or full ADSR capabilities. Perhaps two envelopes.
- Glissando/portamento between frozen notes are very nice effects. Time parameter is a must.
- Maybe an envelope follower would set it apart? Threshold, then up and/or down to a sustained pitch?
- Full-on SuperEgo. Moment & (double-click) Latch are already covered in most ways.
- And I’m thinking you can already simulate Auto & Sustain modes, by adding a Threshold parameter.
- SuperEgo+. Add processing by some other effect to break up the static freeze.
- Tremolo? Low pass filter? Mono Delay? Pattern sequencer?
- How about a harmonized frozen note? Either fixed, or scale-constrained.
Just tossing out ideas for discussion. If you’re going to make an entire algorithm dedicated to Freeze, you need something to set it apart.
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June 17, 2023 at 4:48 am #171988
Infection
ParticipantI like most of your ideas a lot.
Glissando/Portamento would be really cool, same with envelope follower and tremolo and other effects.
-How about arpeggiating frozen chords?
-A freeze that triggers a synth. Maybe string ensembles, mellotron, analog pads or choir/voice synthesis.
-Vowel/formant filters could be nice, especially if they can have movement related to the input signal.
-Would it be possible to use SIFT technology to track the input signal and use the pitch information (in addition to amplitude) as a control signal to manipulate the freezed part? Pitch dependent auto freeze? Pitch dependent resonator? Pitch dependent ducking?
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June 19, 2023 at 12:15 pm #172012
brock
ParticipantI am liking these ideas as well. It’s all going to boil down to how many features can ‘fit’ in an algorithm, that’s primarily about freeze. Then again, we’ve seen a great deal of control packed in; especially with the more recent algorithms.
I’ve always thought that we were missing a deep, resonant filter in the algos. And I’ve always wanted a scale-constrained sequencer [hybrid DiaTonic-QuadraVox / HarPeggiator]. But I believe that would be a big ‘ask’ as one part of a freeze algorithm.
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June 18, 2023 at 4:45 pm #172004
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Participant+1 for this feature
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