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    • #112502
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      If possible, add SC support in future also for VST, especially in H3000, because sc in h3000 is one of internal modulators as i understand, thus it cutting of important functional parts for vst.

    • #127723
      DGillespie
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Hi Anatoly,

      We have experimental VST3 support working, but it's got bugs.  I hope to get this out after the Anthology release.

      Dan

    • #138865
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      Thanks Dan, will wait.

    • #138870
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      Btw, Dan, but why not implement SC in current vst2 ? I understand that it is not the same convenient as in vst3, it require some actions with the busses in the daw, but all the same it could work ?

    • #138885
      Diet Even
      Participant

      This pretty please!

      Vst 3 is nice and all but some DAWs will never support it.

      • #141778
        darthfader9000
        Member
        Diet Even wrote:

        This pretty please! +1000

        Vst 3 is nice and all but some DAWs will never support it.

        yea ableton is being a real pain regarding that 

    • #141806
      DGillespie
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Hey Guys,

      We'll look in to it.

      Dan

       

    • #141809
      msmucr
      Participant

      Hello,

      I also miss that functionality at VST versions..

      Just one thing – additional input channels (ones used for ext. sidechain) are definitely possible to implement also for VST 2.4, it isn’t exclusive feature of VST 3. Sidechained stereo plugins just appears as 4in/2out.

      There are quite few existing plugins, which uses that and works pretty well across multiple VST hosts. For example – NI Vintage comps, Softube comps, free ReaComp from Cockos’s ReaPlugs http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ etc.

      As for VST3, I don’t think it has some practical advantages besides Steinberg’s world particularly for audio effects.. Maybe there is possible sample accurate automation (eg. plugin can get automation values update in between of DAW processing block boundaries), but I’m not sure if that is so significant.

      Michal

      • #141876
        tlongabaugh
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff
        msmucr wrote:

        Hello,

        I also miss that functionality at VST versions..

        Just one thing – additional input channels (ones used for ext. sidechain) are definitely possible to implement also for VST 2.4, it isn't exclusive feature of VST 3. Sidechained stereo plugins just appears as 4in/2out.

        There are quite few existing plugins, which uses that and works pretty well across multiple VST hosts. For example – NI Vintage comps, Softube comps, free ReaComp from Cockos's ReaPlugs http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ etc.

        As for VST3, I don't think it has some practical advantages besides Steinberg's world particularly for audio effects.. Maybe there is possible sample accurate automation (eg. plugin can get automation values update in between of DAW processing block boundaries), but I'm not sure if that is so significant.

        Michal

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        Thanks for the info, Michal. We'll look into it.

        Tom

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      • #146380
        hesnotthemessiah
        Participant
        msmucr wrote:

        Hello,

        I also miss that functionality at VST versions..

        Just one thing – additional input channels (ones used for ext. sidechain) are definitely possible to implement also for VST 2.4, it isn’t exclusive feature of VST 3. Sidechained stereo plugins just appears as 4in/2out.

        There are quite few existing plugins, which uses that and works pretty well across multiple VST hosts. For example – NI Vintage comps, Softube comps, free ReaComp from Cockos’s ReaPlugs http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ etc.

        As for VST3, I don’t think it has some practical advantages besides Steinberg’s world particularly for audio effects.. Maybe there is possible sample accurate automation (eg. plugin can get automation values update in between of DAW processing block boundaries), but I’m not sure if that is so significant.

        Michal

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        I have AnthologyX and I really miss VST2.4 support for sidechain on your plugins.  A real shame because, as Michal says, this is quite a common feature now for plugins.  I never use VST3 unless I really need to, with Reaper support for VST3 being, from what I have read, rather flakey in the past.  It does seem, from what I have read, that Reaper now handles VST3 much better but plain old VST2.4 sidechain support (“works pretty well across multiple VST hosts”) would definately be my preferred method of external sidechaining.  

         

        Cheers

         

        Nev.

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      • #146552
        tlongabaugh
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff

        Hi Nev-

        I agree that VST2 sidechain would be a great feature to have. It's on Dan and mine's to-do list, but unfortunately we have higher priorities at the moment, so I can't say when it will be implemented.

        -Tom

    • #142060
      viceverser
      Member

      Just downloaded the demo, and the only thing keeping this from being an amazing product is INTERNAL sidechain, as found in the Waves SSL E-Channel, And the Boz digital Plus 10db channel Plugins, Amazing feature, and would deffinitely make this beautiful sounding strip amazing. Surely not too big an ask? It would add so much to the usability, and would be vst2 compliant. Maybe implemented in a secomd click of the sidechain feature? Or add a small target dropdown?

       

      I would buy this during the current sale period on the promise of this feature development alone.

       

      Peace… V.

    • #142093
      DGillespie
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      That's an interesting idea viceverser, I can't promise anything, but I'll think what that would look like.

      Dan

       

    • #148846
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      VST2 sidechain implementation has just been released, in applicable plugins.

      • #148847
        Anatolyj_B
        Participant
        TLongabaugh wrote:

        VST2 sidechain implementation has just been released, in applicable plugins.

        Oh thanks ! Sounds good.

    • #148900
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      Tom i did chek just now latest versions Ultrachannel and Ultrareverb, not see sidechain channels in this plugs in Studio One 3 at least (not tried in other hosts yet). Win7 64bit VST

      • #148929
        tlongabaugh
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff
        Anatolyj_B wrote:

        Tom i did chek just now latest versions Ultrachannel and Ultrareverb, not see sidechain channels in this plugs in Studio One 3 at least (not tried in other hosts yet). Win7 64bit VST

        Hi Anatolyj_B-

        I will have to check into why it is not appearing in Studio One. It is appearing and working properly in the other few DAWs I have checked here.

        -Tom

    • #148932
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Ok, I found the reason why it is not appearing in a few DAWs (Studio One and Bitwig, for instance). I've made the fix, and will let you know when it is pushed for release.

    • #148934
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      Ok thanks !

    • #148982
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Hey, should be fixed in the latest builds, which are now live

    • #148984
      Anatolyj_B
      Participant

      Tom thanks, i check just now – now SC show up ok and works, good.

      (Btw what happened with Blackhole UI ? Frankly before was a much more interestingoriginal, though not a big deal, but, strange choise)

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