H9 automatic double track patch?

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    • #113633
      Project 150
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      Hi gang. Hello from Nashville. I play in a Beatles cover band and recently purchased an H9Max. I haven’t had much time to dig through all the patches, but is there an ADT type algorithm? Specifically looking for a tone like on “Nowhere Man.” Ok, I know those were really double-tracked, but surely this incredible little box has something that can approximate it…

      Thanks!

      GV

    • #144120
      brock
      Participant

      The MicroPitch algorithm is good for this, because it can blend three subtle pitch variations together.  But I’ll bet that about 1/3 of all algorithms are capable of some kind of doubling & ambient effect.

      So focus on the algorithm type that offers the most control over what’s important (to you):  pitch variations, timing delays, EQ fine tuning, picking strength, modulation of the delays, etc.  All feature panned positioning, so a multi-channel, multi-amp, or stereo setup helps to ‘sell’ the illusion.

      I like to map the PITCH / DELAY MIX control to an expression pedal, for varying the timing in real time.  Many of the preset FX below are mixed back.  You may want to start at a 50:50 MIX, and adjust it from there.

      An algorithm sampler:

       

       

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    • #144122
      Project 150
      Participant

      Brock, thank you. These are great places to start! I’ll let you know which one I end up using on our next show. GV

    • #144807
      joegrant413
      Participant

      Hi,

      H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx

      • #144816
        brock
        Participant
        joegrant413 wrote:

        Hi,

        H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx

        Maybe in isolation.  The MicroPitch algo can focus more of its resources on a narrower range of pitch shift.  But I just A/B’ed the H910 / H949 preset (below), with the MicroPitch ‘Auto DoubleTrack’ preset (shown above). Among two H9’s, and a PitchFactor here, the two presets are not all that different in context.

        The H910 / H949 preset is somewhat darker (no TONE parameter), and a little less animated (no LFO modulation).  I compensated by using one of the older models: H949-1.  [Each TYPE has it’s own character, colorations, ‘sweet spot’ for pitch changes, and degree of glitchy-ness.]

        The point of my initial reply was to show how different algorithms can create similar effects.  Yet one or two parameters – unique to that algorithm – can tailor the effect (ADT, in these examples) to exactly what you want.

        Here’s a perfect example:  Just tonight, I was experimenting with some Digitech Ricochet simulations.  I’d never considered using the PitchFlex algo for doubling before.  I stumbled upon this method by setting up a 50:50 MIX.  With an Aux / Performance switch in the H9’s – or with the FLEX switch on a PitchFactor – you can trigger doubling FX that sweep into ‘Hoover’ territory (and beyond).

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        Shift & return ‘ballistics’ can be customized independently.  The SHAPE of those sweeps are variable from ‘fast’, through linear, and ‘slow’.  Since FLEX is a momentary action, the doubling effects can be brief & shallow, or extended & deeper.  Control it with the hold & release times of your foot on the switch.

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    • #144819
      joegrant413
      Participant

      Thanks for the reply, Double Double!

      – Joe

    • #145258
      brock
      Participant

      This seems like the appropriate spot  to put this one.  Another unusual source for … unusual doubling effects.  It creates a tight little space around the input, with a bit of backwards ‘bloom’, slapback, and MicroPitch shifting.

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