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August 12, 2016 at 10:49 am #113633Project 150Participant
Hi gang. Hello from Nashville. I play in a Beatles cover band and recently purchased an H9Max. I haven’t had much time to dig through all the patches, but is there an ADT type algorithm? Specifically looking for a tone like on “Nowhere Man.” Ok, I know those were really double-tracked, but surely this incredible little box has something that can approximate it…
Thanks!
GV
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August 15, 2016 at 1:19 am #144120brockParticipant
The MicroPitch algorithm is good for this, because it can blend three subtle pitch variations together. But I’ll bet that about 1/3 of all algorithms are capable of some kind of doubling & ambient effect.
So focus on the algorithm type that offers the most control over what’s important (to you): pitch variations, timing delays, EQ fine tuning, picking strength, modulation of the delays, etc. All feature panned positioning, so a multi-channel, multi-amp, or stereo setup helps to ‘sell’ the illusion.
I like to map the PITCH / DELAY MIX control to an expression pedal, for varying the timing in real time. Many of the preset FX below are mixed back. You may want to start at a 50:50 MIX, and adjust it from there.
An algorithm sampler:
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August 15, 2016 at 1:30 pm #144122Project 150Participant
Brock, thank you. These are great places to start! I’ll let you know which one I end up using on our next show. GV
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November 5, 2016 at 7:44 pm #144807joegrant413Participant
Hi,
H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx
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November 7, 2016 at 12:46 am #144816brockParticipantjoegrant413 wrote:
Hi,
H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx
Maybe in isolation. The MicroPitch algo can focus more of its resources on a narrower range of pitch shift. But I just A/B’ed the H910 / H949 preset (below), with the MicroPitch ‘Auto DoubleTrack’ preset (shown above). Among two H9’s, and a PitchFactor here, the two presets are not all that different in context.
The H910 / H949 preset is somewhat darker (no TONE parameter), and a little less animated (no LFO modulation). I compensated by using one of the older models: H949-1. [Each TYPE has it’s own character, colorations, ‘sweet spot’ for pitch changes, and degree of glitchy-ness.]
The point of my initial reply was to show how different algorithms can create similar effects. Yet one or two parameters – unique to that algorithm – can tailor the effect (ADT, in these examples) to exactly what you want.
Here’s a perfect example: Just tonight, I was experimenting with some Digitech Ricochet simulations. I’d never considered using the PitchFlex algo for doubling before. I stumbled upon this method by setting up a 50:50 MIX. With an Aux / Performance switch in the H9’s – or with the FLEX switch on a PitchFactor – you can trigger doubling FX that sweep into ‘Hoover’ territory (and beyond).
Shift & return ‘ballistics’ can be customized independently. The SHAPE of those sweeps are variable from ‘fast’, through linear, and ‘slow’. Since FLEX is a momentary action, the doubling effects can be brief & shallow, or extended & deeper. Control it with the hold & release times of your foot on the switch.
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November 7, 2016 at 4:25 am #144819joegrant413Participant
Thanks for the reply, Double Double!
– Joe
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December 27, 2016 at 1:02 am #145258brockParticipant
This seems like the appropriate spot to put this one. Another unusual source for … unusual doubling effects. It creates a tight little space around the input, with a bit of backwards ‘bloom’, slapback, and MicroPitch shifting.
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