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    • #113884
      Bodde
      Participant

      It has been very quiet over here lately. Just wondering are there any algorithms planned in the near future for the H9?

      Can someone from Eventide maybe offer a glimpse of what is yet to come for the H9?

       

    • #145188
      gkellum
      Member

      We have a newletter scheduled to go out at the start of the next week that will have a sneak preview of the new H9 algorithm.

      • #145257
        brock
        Participant
        gkellum wrote:

        We have a newletter scheduled to go out at the start of the next week that will have a sneak preview of the new H9 algorithm.

         Well, that’s got it narrowed it down to one of the 4 basic food groups.  wink

    • #145192
      Bodde
      Participant

      ok great! thanks….

    • #145260
      kenhan
      Participant

      Peach…fuzz?

      • #145445
        brock
        Participant
        kenhan wrote:
        Peach…fuzz?
        And then Tony wrote:
        Eventide will also be unveiling a new multi-effect algorithm for their TEC Award-winning H9 Harmonizer® platform called PitchFuzz. This new set of effects combines delay, pitch-shifting and distortion to create sounds never before offered in a single stompbox. PitchFuzz represents Eventide’s unique take on the classic fuzz octaver. With three chromatic voices, you can create virtual chords and route them before or after the fuzz and delay effects.

        “When we first announced the H9, it was viewed as ‘just another stompbox’,” explains Agnello. “It took a while for folks to grok that the H9 is different. It’s a living, evolving platform. With the release of our latest algorithm PitchFuzz, we’re giving H9 owners yet another useful and powerful creative tool for less than a night at the movies. With the H9, musicians have a world of studio-quality effects at their feet or on the console.”

        Source:

         http://www.mixonline.com/thewire/eventide-unveil-plug-breakthrough-and-new-h9-effect-winter-namm/429050

        This sounds like another candidate for signal flow graphics / adjustments on “page 2”.

        Now I wonder where FEEDBACK (if available) re-enters that signal chain …?

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      • #145449
        Bodde
        Participant
        brock wrote:

        kenhan wrote:
        Peach…fuzz?
        And then Tony wrote:
        Eventide will also be unveiling a new multi-effect algorithm for their TEC Award-winning H9 Harmonizer® platform called PitchFuzz. This new set of effects combines delay, pitch-shifting and distortion to create sounds never before offered in a single stompbox. PitchFuzz represents Eventide’s unique take on the classic fuzz octaver. With three chromatic voices, you can create virtual chords and route them before or after the fuzz and delay effects.

        “When we first announced the H9, it was viewed as ‘just another stompbox’,” explains Agnello. “It took a while for folks to grok that the H9 is different. It’s a living, evolving platform. With the release of our latest algorithm PitchFuzz, we’re giving H9 owners yet another useful and powerful creative tool for less than a night at the movies. With the H9, musicians have a world of studio-quality effects at their feet or on the console.”

        OK great news! A combination of delay, pitch and drive/fuzz was exactly my wish for a new H9 algo. I love these combined algos like SpaceTime. Makes te H9 even more versatile. Thanks Eventide!!!

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      • #145484
        javiceres
        Participant
        brock wrote:
        kenhan wrote:
        Peach…fuzz?
        And then Tony wrote:
        Eventide will also be unveiling a new multi-effect algorithm for their TEC Award-winning H9 Harmonizer® platform called PitchFuzz. This new set of effects combines delay, pitch-shifting and distortion to create sounds never before offered in a single stompbox. PitchFuzz represents Eventide’s unique take on the classic fuzz octaver. With three chromatic voices, you can create virtual chords and route them before or after the fuzz and delay effects.

        “When we first announced the H9, it was viewed as ‘just another stompbox’,” explains Agnello. “It took a while for folks to grok that the H9 is different. It’s a living, evolving platform. With the release of our latest algorithm PitchFuzz, we’re giving H9 owners yet another useful and powerful creative tool for less than a night at the movies. With the H9, musicians have a world of studio-quality effects at their feet or on the console.”

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         http://www.mixonline.com/thewire/eventide-unveil-plug-breakthrough-and-new-h9-effect-winter-namm/429050

        This sounds like another candidate for signal flow graphics / adjustments on “page 2”.

        Now I wonder where FEEDBACK (if available) re-enters that signal chain …?

        Now, that’s THE question.
        We’ll see…

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    • #145306
      peterfrequency
      Participant

      Any news? Just subscribed to the newsletter today and haven’t received anything so don’t know if it’s been sent out.

    • #145325
      Bodde
      Participant

      I received this teaser in the mail but it so vague that I have no clue what they are talking about. It briefly mentiones a new H9 algorithm at 1:58 but you won’t get any wiser by watching this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOW3oGnlbcg&feature=youtu.be

    • #145389
      skywriter
      Participant

      It’s pretty fruity! Sounds like a nifty pinch factor-like alg. Liked seeing some H9000 news too 🙂 too bad it doesn’t work with EVE/NET. I’ll have to make some room!

    • #145447
      Given To Fly
      Participant

      Nice find brock! 

       

    • #145465
      cliveluis
      Participant

      I really hoping this can do decent distortion + delay  lead sounds.. since both crush station and sculpt dont have delays

    • #145466
      cliveluis
      Participant

      I really hoping this can do decent distortion + delay  lead sounds.. since both crush station and sculpt dont have delays

    • #145482
      smalsbury
      Member

      I know the Pitch Fuzz teaser trailer says “coming soon” but any chance someone can ballpark the ETA? (1st quarter?)

    • #145896
      Satoristate
      Member

      Am I the only H9 user who checks every day if PitchFuzz is finally out?!? =D

      • #145904
        Given To Fly
        Participant
        Satoristate wrote:

        Am I the only H9 user who checks every day if PitchFuzz is finally out?!? =D

        Yes. No one cares. Just like no one cares about a new Star Wars trailer or if that giraffe has given birth yet. cheeky

         

      • #146255
        Given To Fly
        Participant
        Given To Fly wrote:

        Satoristate wrote:

        Am I the only H9 user who checks every day if PitchFuzz is finally out?!? =D

        Yes. No one cares. Just like no one cares about a new Star Wars trailer or if that giraffe has given birth yet. cheeky

        The giraffe has given birth and the new Star Wars trailer is out…indecision…not that I’m keeping score or anything. wink (This is not a criticism, but this forum has the most unusual Smiley’s I’ve ever seen. That last one is “wink” but it looks like “left half of face glaring at right half of face sleeping soundly.”

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    • #145905
      Bodde
      Participant

      haha…Yes, can’t wait!

      Any news from Eventide?

    • #145925
      peterfrequency
      Participant

      Also very much looking forward, and hoping more are in the pipeline 🙂

    • #145956
      actioncamp
      Member

      how’s this coming? March is almost over! 🙂

      • #145963
        wedelich
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff
        actioncamp wrote:
        how's this coming? March is almost over! 🙂

        Hi guys,

        Unfortunately we've had scheduling conflicts resulting in a delay on PitchFuzz, so we need to push back release about a month.  It's looking like the end of April.  

    • #145965
      jblr
      Member

      Hi Guys, pitchfuzz web logo dissapeared since a week more or less, so i knew something wrong was happening..
      By the way, in this awaiting inpass, you could try to improve fuzz, seems it’s the worst and less appetizing bite from peach ;-).

      • #145971
        Bodde
        Participant
        Jblr wrote:
        By the way, in this awaiting inpass, you could try to improve fuzz, seems it’s the worst and less appetizing bite from peach ;-).

        Based on what? where did you hear it?

        I don’t mind that it is posponed. I trust the Eventide staff to do the best they can. If that takes a little bit more time it’s only a better result in the end.

    • #145974
      jblr
      Member

      I prefer things well done, yessss, so i agree with you. And because of it, if someone has seen and, more important, heard YouTube NAAM demos with Alan Chaput, and looks at reviewer’s face…. Seems not too much impresive fuzz sound. It’s my personal opinion based on a few minutes listening to peachfuzz demos, it seems that the fuzz part is an one trick pony with an only kind of fuzz, it would be great to have a wide range of fuzz shapes and tones, from benders and maestros to Muffs.
      All that said, H9 It’s a great and quality tool, and Eventide an innovative company. But for that reason, everybody has to tells them ways and ideas to improve something, maybe, not too top notch.
      Anyway… I hope it will be a new great algorithm as soon as possible.

      • #145975
        gkellum
        Member
        Jblr wrote:

        Seems not too much impresive fuzz sound. It's my personal opinion based on a few minutes listening to peachfuzz demos, it seems that the fuzz part is an one trick pony with an only kind of fuzz, it would be great to have a wide range of fuzz shapes and tones, from benders and maestros to Muffs.

        I will say that the fuzz sound has changed since that NAMM video.  My colleague, Pete, agreed that it wasn't quite right, and he spent some time trying out some different approaches.  I've heard at least one of my colleagues say that it's now their favorite distortion in the H9…  People are so particular about distortion sounds that I can't guarantee you'll agree with him, but in any case the algorithm has evolved a bit since you last heard it.

    • #145976
      jblr
      Member

      Thank you, I am so happy that i am not a complaining guy, and even more happy that Eventide try the best to improve for making the best effects in the world.
      You are the best, boys.

    • #146034
      strayhorse45
      Participant

      I am a newbie to Eventide but my H9 Max is overwhelmingly awesome! I am excited to hear this new algo when it does come out, and appreciate what fine craftsmanship you guys put into your products.

    • #146078
      supportwallirec
      Member

      I recently became the owner of the H9 MAX and I was convinced (not even checked) that the device has a serial double delay. Filter Pong does not have separate adjustment of feedback, so not really suitable. Please fix this misunderstanding!

      • #146094
        camn
        Participant
        wallirec wrote:

        I recently became the owner of the H9 MAX and I was convinced (not even checked) that the device has a serial double delay. Filter Pong does not have separate adjustment of feedback, so not really suitable. Please fix this misunderstanding!

         ALL the other delay algos have separate feedback controls. Maybe theycan do what you want? They are all parallel, as far as I know, though.

        If you really want series, you CAN do it manually, with an extra patch cord. Check it out:

        https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/stompboxes/timefactor-dual-delay-series

         

        As far as the “misunderstanding”… am I reading right that you didn’t actually check it out.. you just thought maybe the delays were serial? The technical details of the H9 are pretty avaliable, and I, for one, never thought there would be serial delays… so i kind of think you are the only one who can correct that misunderstanding 🙂

         

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    • #146232
      Big Lid
      Participant

      When’s the release?

    • #146238
      strayhorse45
      Participant

      The suspense is killing me! Release it already! Lol

    • #146246
      actioncamp
      Member

      Less than a fortnight according to their instagram yesterday. 

      so there ya go, like 2 weeks max?

    • #146252
      strayhorse45
      Participant

      Good deal. Thank you for the update. I missed it.

    • #146339
      peterfrequency
      Participant

      Must be on its way soon… Lookong forward…

    • #146349
      supportwallirec
      Member

      Two weeks have passed…

       

    • #146360
      peterfrequency
      Participant

      Taps fingers

    • #146361
      ecordell
      Member

      @wallirec – hilarious pic. I check everyday with the rest of you.

    • #146362
      gkellum
      Member

      PitchFuzz is going to be released on Monday.  (5/15)

    • #146363
      Bodde
      Participant

      That’s one day before my birthday so I consider this a birthday gift. Thanks Eventide!!!!

    • #146373
      supportwallirec
      Member

      I have nine time zones of difference with New Jersey – I have to wait a day longer 🙁

    • #146413
      supportwallirec
      Member

      Maybe I’m a little rushed, but it would be nice if the fiftieth algorithm was a long-awaited serial delay!

    • #146445
      Big Lid
      Participant

      Is it me or are the levels way too high?  My wet signal from the H9 is way hotter than the dry signal for pretty much all patches..

    • #146737
      dharmabam
      Member

      Yeah -*far too high. Nice effect (not for me) but seems to be additionally a crazy-ass boost pedal …

    • #146751
      AndreScott
      Member

      They are quite loud. Increasing the gain also increases the output. It’s tricky to manage for unity gain.

      All in all I like the update though. Trying to find songs to use them!

      Any chance the folks over at H9 HQ could whip up a “ClassicsFactor” algorithm? Include some pedalboard staples… blue box number 2 chorus, orange box phaser, grey box flanger etc…

      As much as I love my H9, sometimes it’s hard or impossible to get those old school sounds, even sitting next to the originals! I would love to be able to leave the originals at home.

      Thanks!

      • #146804
        brock
        Participant

        I see about an 18-20 dB spread of Output levels in the factory presets.  To me, that implies a variety of sources, preset programmers, & system setups.  I suppose that Eventide could have tried to compress that range, with a single test system.  Even that isn’t going to translate perfectly for the myriad of end-user configurations out there.

        So what do you do (especially in an algo with hi-gain possibilities, with some automatic leveling features)?  ‘Normalize’ everything to 0 dB?  That has the same potential for TS issues. Use the Input & Output meters in H9 Control.  Tweak the presets to behave well in your own signal chain.  Presets were never intended to be ‘plug ‘n’ play’ for everyone. Otherwise, they’d be burned into ROM, and not adjustable & savable to RAM.  

        AndreScott wrote:
        … Any chance the folks over at H9 HQ could whip up a “ClassicsFactor” algorithm? Include some pedalboard staples… blue box number 2 chorus, orange box phaser, grey box flanger etc… As much as I love my H9, sometimes it’s hard or impossible to get those old school sounds, even sitting next to the originals! I would love to be able to leave the originals at home. Thanks!

        I’ve got a few of those in preset form, if you’re interested.  I don’t often set out to ‘clone’ the classics, using the H9.  But I did cop my Script Phase 90 & original 117 at one point.

        For the CE (which I don’t own), I started with very similar parameter values, then ‘translated’ across many, many algorithms.  That was more of an A-B test on how the embedded chorusing features compared to one another.  Subtle, yet distinctive.

    • #146756
      Bodde
      Participant

      So many complaints about the high output of the (Pitch) Fuzz! I wonder if Eventide is going to update the algo.

      As far as new algos are concerned; really wonder what they will come up with next. I hope a four head tape delay like the Binson Echorec, or maybe a new kind of Ring Modulator or a Bitcrusher.

    • #146784
      camn
      Participant

      It would be kind of horrifying if they changed an actual algorithm . Everyone who uses it for anything would suddenly have presets that are too quiet!

      Now- updating the PRESETS is another story altogether. The PitchFuzz presets ARE generally unusable as they sit… but I make my own preset in every algo anyway, so it is not really anything. I would be unhappy if they changed the underlying gain staging now, after I have things how I like them.

      Probably more useful would be giving us a little more advanced methods of organizing presets. Like a “Hide All Factory Presets” button? Or maybe folders?

      • #146788
        Bodde
        Participant
        camn wrote:

        It would be kind of horrifying if they changed an actual algorithm . Everyone who uses it for anything would suddenly have presets that are too quiet!

        Now- updating the PRESETS is another story altogether.

        It’s very easy and quick to adjust your level. So that should’t be a reason for not updating the algo.

      • #146796
        camn
        Participant
        Bodde wrote:

        It’s very easy and quick to adjust your level. So that should’t be a reason for not updating the algo.

        If that were true, why suggest it needs updating to fix the levels??

         

        But seriously.. anything that changes a patch I am already using on stage would be an unwelcome update, imo. 

        Updating presets? Sure. I don’t have them on my pedal anyway. Let me file away all the PitchFuzz presets that I am not using because they are too loud? I want that. My H9 control app is cluttered with presets I don’t use.

        But changing the underlying algo, so I have to go in and re-do my presets if I update the pedal? That should never be done. This is a stomp-box.. I need it to be predictable on stage… not unpredictably different after an update. And anyway- the PitchFuzz algo is fine. Its just that the presets aren’t gain-matched very well. 

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    • #146808
      mistercharlie
      Participant

      I’d be interested in seeing some of your phaser presets. I’ll swap for my DMM one? 🙂

    • #146814
      mistercharlie
      Participant

      Here it is.

    • #146816
      brock
      Participant

      Thanks for that DMM.  I couldn’t get to compiling ‘Classic’ presets last night.  Here’s a direct link to a 50-Preset List; five from each ModFactor algorithm.  Those Phaser presets may be more convoluted than ‘classic’.

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1383432/Yeah%2C%20But%20The%20Modulation%20FX.h9z

    • #146822
      mistercharlie
      Participant

      Great!

      I’m getting quite a collection of your excellent presets, Brock.

    • #146835
      Hermetech
      Participant

      Thanks for these presets Brock, some fab stuff in there!

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