H9 + OX9 + Expression pedal problem

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      rhcp.schipper
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      Hello Everybody,

      Fairly new to the H9. Just put it on my pedalboard with the OX9 switch and an M-Audio EX-P. All works great except for the following:

      When I’m using my expression pedal, connected to the OX9, all functions as it’s supposed to. The Left footswitch on the OX9 is used for decending preset, and the Right isn,t assigned because there is an expression pedal connected.

      Now when I accidentally hit the Right button on the OX9, the value(in a wah preset in this matter) will go to 0, but when I let loose the Footswitch the value will now be 66(or something like that). At this moment my expression pedal will only go from 66 heel down to 100 toe down. It is not possible to get it back to 0 heel down. So what happens is the range of the expression pedal gets messed up by pressing and releasing the Right Footswitch of the OX9.

      What is happening here? Is this normal?

      Thanks!

    • #154211
      joeydego
      Participant
      rhcp.schipper wrote:
      Hello Everybody,

      Fairly new to the H9. Just put it on my pedalboard with the OX9 switch and an M-Audio EX-P. All works great except for the following:

      When I’m using my expression pedal, connected to the OX9, all functions as it’s supposed to. The Left footswitch on the OX9 is used for decending preset, and the Right isn,t assigned because there is an expression pedal connected.

      Now when I accidentally hit the Right button on the OX9, the value(in a wah preset in this matter) will go to 0, but when I let loose the Footswitch the value will now be 66(or something like that). At this moment my expression pedal will only go from 66 heel down to 100 toe down. It is not possible to get it back to 0 heel down. So what happens is the range of the expression pedal gets messed up by pressing and releasing the Right Footswitch of the OX9.

      What is happening here? Is this normal?

      Thanks!

      Since no one answered I’ll attempt to help troubleshoot, although I never corrected a similar issue. Your issue MAY be caused by either an incorrect type of switch (momentary vs latching), an expression pedal with the wrong resistance (this figure is published somewhere, hopefully someone chimes in) or simply are you using a proper Y cable and is it in good working order?
      Start with these 3 things to eliminate them as the problem. In my case, I have the wrong value expression pedal. My boss switch works fine, but it will only send tap tempo info when my expression pedal is all the way in the toe position. I decided to live with it.

    • #154228
      rhcp.schipper
      Member
      joeydego wrote:
      rhcp.schipper wrote:
      Hello Everybody,

      Fairly new to the H9. Just put it on my pedalboard with the OX9 switch and an M-Audio EX-P. All works great except for the following:

      When I’m using my expression pedal, connected to the OX9, all functions as it’s supposed to. The Left footswitch on the OX9 is used for decending preset, and the Right isn,t assigned because there is an expression pedal connected.

      Now when I accidentally hit the Right button on the OX9, the value(in a wah preset in this matter) will go to 0, but when I let loose the Footswitch the value will now be 66(or something like that). At this moment my expression pedal will only go from 66 heel down to 100 toe down. It is not possible to get it back to 0 heel down. So what happens is the range of the expression pedal gets messed up by pressing and releasing the Right Footswitch of the OX9.

      What is happening here? Is this normal?

      Thanks!

      Since no one answered I’ll attempt to help troubleshoot, although I never corrected a similar issue. Your issue MAY be caused by either an incorrect type of switch (momentary vs latching), an expression pedal with the wrong resistance (this figure is published somewhere, hopefully someone chimes in) or simply are you using a proper Y cable and is it in good working order?
      Start with these 3 things to eliminate them as the problem. In my case, I have the wrong value expression pedal. My boss switch works fine, but it will only send tap tempo info when my expression pedal is all the way in the toe position. I decided to live with it.

      I figured it out! It appeared to be that the M-Audio pedal has some sort of current limiting resistor on the wiper of the pot(1K). At heel down position, the pot always reads ~1K, instead of the 0 that the OX9 switch makes by shorting tip to sleeve. Therefore there is a difference in the EXP pedal and the OX9, and that explains the strange behavior. Replaced the resistor with a wire bridge and all is good now, and it works like a charm!

    • #154229
      joeydego
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      rhcp.schipper wrote:
      joeydego wrote:
      rhcp.schipper wrote:
      Hello Everybody,

      Fairly new to the H9. Just put it on my pedalboard with the OX9 switch and an M-Audio EX-P. All works great except for the following:

      When I’m using my expression pedal, connected to the OX9, all functions as it’s supposed to. The Left footswitch on the OX9 is used for decending preset, and the Right isn,t assigned because there is an expression pedal connected.

      Now when I accidentally hit the Right button on the OX9, the value(in a wah preset in this matter) will go to 0, but when I let loose the Footswitch the value will now be 66(or something like that). At this moment my expression pedal will only go from 66 heel down to 100 toe down. It is not possible to get it back to 0 heel down. So what happens is the range of the expression pedal gets messed up by pressing and releasing the Right Footswitch of the OX9.

      What is happening here? Is this normal?

      Thanks!

      Since no one answered I’ll attempt to help troubleshoot, although I never corrected a similar issue. Your issue MAY be caused by either an incorrect type of switch (momentary vs latching), an expression pedal with the wrong resistance (this figure is published somewhere, hopefully someone chimes in) or simply are you using a proper Y cable and is it in good working order?
      Start with these 3 things to eliminate them as the problem. In my case, I have the wrong value expression pedal. My boss switch works fine, but it will only send tap tempo info when my expression pedal is all the way in the toe position. I decided to live with it.

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      I figured it out! It appeared to be that the M-Audio pedal has some sort of current limiting resistor on the wiper of the pot(1K). At heel down position, the pot always reads ~1K, instead of the 0 that the OX9 switch makes by shorting tip to sleeve. Therefore there is a difference in the EXP pedal and the OX9, and that explains the strange behavior. Replaced the resistor with a wire bridge and all is good now, and it works like a charm!

      That’s great! Hopefully my chiming in as to how resistance in the exp pedal plays a role in behavior gave you a basis to look.

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