H9 Unwanted Tone Coloring / Modulation

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    • #114912
      mrburno27
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      Hey all! I’ve been playing with my rig over the last couple days and realized that my H9 Max does not seem to be playing nice with my tone. I am using it mono in a loop on a Boss ES-8. There is a severe roll-off of the high end and some sort of modulation going on in every delay patch I’ve used from Pristine Digital to Tape Echo. I am usually using the delay in the effects/volume loop between the ES-8 and my amp (PRS Sonzera 50 combo.) I’ve tried the Kill-dry settings, Pre-Post, wet/Dry with no change. As soon as it is engaged I can hear a noticeable dulling of the high end. In the loop next to it I have a TC Electronic Flashback X4 which does not color my tone at all. I’ve swapped the effects to eliminate the loop the H9 is in as the culprit. Still, Flashback was fine, H9 sounded dull. Thinking it could be the unit? Any suggestions for getting the H9 to not drastically change my sound?

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      wedelich
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      mrburno27 wrote:

      Hey all! I've been playing with my rig over the last couple days and realized that my H9 Max does not seem to be playing nice with my tone. I am using it mono in a loop on a Boss ES-8. There is a severe roll-off of the high end and some sort of modulation going on in every delay patch I've used from Pristine Digital to Tape Echo. I am usually using the delay in the effects/volume loop between the ES-8 and my amp (PRS Sonzera 50 combo.) I've tried the Kill-dry settings, Pre-Post, wet/Dry with no change. As soon as it is engaged I can hear a noticeable dulling of the high end. In the loop next to it I have a TC Electronic Flashback X4 which does not color my tone at all. I've swapped the effects to eliminate the loop the H9 is in as the culprit. Still, Flashback was fine, H9 sounded dull. Thinking it could be the unit? Any suggestions for getting the H9 to not drastically change my sound?

      Have you tried turning off/down the modulation and filtering in the Digital Delay and Tape Echo presets you're using? 

      • #149986
        mrburno27
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        wedelich wrote:

        mrburno27 wrote:

        Hey all! I’ve been playing with my rig over the last couple days and realized that my H9 Max does not seem to be playing nice with my tone. I am using it mono in a loop on a Boss ES-8. There is a severe roll-off of the high end and some sort of modulation going on in every delay patch I’ve used from Pristine Digital to Tape Echo. I am usually using the delay in the effects/volume loop between the ES-8 and my amp (PRS Sonzera 50 combo.) I’ve tried the Kill-dry settings, Pre-Post, wet/Dry with no change. As soon as it is engaged I can hear a noticeable dulling of the high end. In the loop next to it I have a TC Electronic Flashback X4 which does not color my tone at all. I’ve swapped the effects to eliminate the loop the H9 is in as the culprit. Still, Flashback was fine, H9 sounded dull. Thinking it could be the unit? Any suggestions for getting the H9 to not drastically change my sound?

        Have you tried turning off/down the modulation and filtering in the Digital Delay and Tape Echo presets you’re using? 

        I have. Even tried turning the mix to 100% dry and I can still hear immediately when the pedal is kicked into the chain no matter what type of effect I’m trying to use. Listening closer, it’s almost a scoop of all the frequencies like phase cancellation, if that helps. I will try to upload some samples this afternoon. At this point it almost has to be a hardware issue. Sad becasue I REALLY want to love and use this pedal.

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    • #149987
      mrburno27
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      So with further experimentation, it seems to sound fine in front of the amp (still through the ES-8 and in the same loop) with minimal if any coloration or what I’ll call phasing. So that pretty much eliminates hardware issue. ?? So I wonder why it only sounds horrible in the ES-8 volume/amp loop when none of the my other pedals do?

    • #149989
      mistercharlie
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      Just a guess, but check the levels. Maybe the ES-8 is sending too high or low a level to the loop? Also, the H9’s input level can be adjusted to match the input, and then it’s output is adjusted to match.

      Some people get noise when thr input level is set too low.

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