H90 midi question

[drews]

In the H9 there was this midi receive configuration. Where do I find it in the H90?

[tbskoglund]

There is currently no settings to adjust the PC options on the H90. We’re working on an option to offset the PC numbers by 1 so the H90’s PC numbers match other equipment that start at PC 0.

[drews]

is there a way to bypass the H90 via midi?

 

[tbskoglund]

Yes, using the global mapping options you can map a CC to bypass the Program or Presets: https://cdn.eventideaudio.com/manuals/h90/1.3.0/content/appendix/global.html

[drews]

I’m trying to put the H90 on bypass using cc 0, bit it is not working. What did I do wrong this time?

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[brock]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>With Act / Byp (M), you need to send CC#0 at a value of less than 64 for Bypass.  That is, any value between 0 and 63.</p>
<p style=”text-align: left;”><span style=”font-size: inherit;”>Any CC#0 value from 64 through 127 results in an Active state.  That way, you can use two switches with different values of CC#0 to control Active or Bypass.</span></p>
<p style=”text-align: left;”>It’s also possible to ‘punch in’ Active with a switch programmed for, say, CC#0 – 127 on press, and CC#0 – 0 on release.</p>

[drews]

yeah, that’s wht is in the manual, and that is what I did (from what I could understand – the photo shows exactly the midi CC configuration screen with the CC=0.) only, it didn’t work, it does not go to bypass.

[brock]

Not sure what is going on, then.  It works as expected here: version 1.3.0.75.  Tested using a MIDI Baby 3, Source Audio Reflex; I expect the FCB-1010 here, or CC#0 via DAW Transmit will yield the same results.

I even tested Aux switches to see if they might diverge from MIDI; as they have mirrored parameters in Global Mapping.  Works the same.

Unfortunately, there is no Learn function in Global Mapping, like there is with individual parameter control.  Makes for a great test to confirm what you’re sending is getting received by the H90.

You could try sending CC#0 to (any) parameter, using Learn, to see what happens there.  Without narrowing down the range, you should see (any) parameter snap between minimum & maximum values.

Better still, a MIDI Monitor would give you back exact CC Number & Values at a glance.

[brock]

One more thought: I keep reading you can’t get into Bypass.  That leads me to believe your MIDI controller (what are you using?) might be sending CC#0, but only with a single value, somewhere between 64 & 127.

Instead, try mapping it to [P] Act / Byp (without the (M).  See what happens.  A ‘high’ value will alternate between Active & Bypass with subsequent switch presses.

[drews]

Maybe I’m following the wrong concept. In the first image there’s what I did in the H9: pc 0 = bypass. What I’m doing in the H90 is CC# = 0 and expecting it to bypass. Is that correct?

[brock]

That may very well be what’s going on here.  The differences between MIDI configuration in the H9 & the H90 will naturally lead to some confusion among longtime H9 users.  To summarize what Tyler said above:

• In the H90, PC messages will only affect Program Changes currently, and cannot be remapped, or used to trigger other functions.
• The H90 PCs are currently ‘off by one’, relative to the H9 MIDI implementation.
• The H9 has the ability to Activate OR Bypass OR Toggle Between Active & Bypass, via PC or CC message.  The H90 implements 2 ways for Act / Bypass via CC only.  It doesn’t feature mappings to Activate or Bypass individually.

To mimic the H9 Bypass-only in the H90, send CC#0 with a value of zero (0-63).  You will need to re-Activate with a 2nd CC message, Aux switch, or the onboard switches.

If your MIDI controller only sends CC#0 with a value of 127 (64-127, or it can’t be reconfigured), you will have to live with 2 switch presses to Bypass (currently).

[drews]

I think I figured out. I was mixing Program Change with Control Change. That’s it. my H9 was put in bypass by PC=0. Looks like the H90 does not understand PC=0, so, that’s it. my midi controller only sends PC. I’ll have to adapt.

[drews]

[drews]

well, I took off the switcher/midi controller, and routed the fuzz (and ressurrected a second fuzz) through the H90. It is going to be like that until the MIDI PC comes back (if ever…).

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