H90 Quadravox feature request : pitch tracking on/off and panning for each voice

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    • #190019
      0ak
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        Hello, before buying this fantastic pedal I want to know if there is way to mimic these two features on it!

        I really like having the choice between harmonized and simple parrallel pitching shifting. It seems parrallel pitch shifting is only available on the Polyphony algorithm which has 2 voices instead of 4 for Quadravox. Being able to turn pitch tracking on/off the way it is handled by the plugin would allow a lot more harmonic possibilities.

         

        I was also looking for mentions of how panning works in this algorithm and couldn’t find anything, is hard panned for each voice ? I really like playing with panning on each voice for pitched delays. Also noticed I could do it with Harpeggiator but not being able to creat my own sequence seems too restricted, couldn’t find any info on how panning is handled for this one either.

         

        Please tell if I missed anything!

        Hope to test this with the real thing soon,

        Oak

      • #190023
        brock
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          … way to mimic these two features on it!…

          Mimicking additional features usually means using a second Preset type – in Series or Parallel – external control, and/or HotSwitch mapping, with a dose of creative thinking.  All of which is pretty straightforward, once you know your way around the H90.

          … I really like having the choice between harmonized and simple parrallel pitching shifting. It seems parrallel pitch shifting is only available on the Polyphony algorithm which has 2 voices instead of 4 for Quadravox …

          Polyphony / PolyFlex use the latest tech, and among the more accurate ones.  But don’t discount the other Harmonizer algorithms.  Each one brings a unique set of secondary features to parallel pitch shifting.  Have a look at H910 H949, HarModulator, etc.

          … Being able to turn pitch tracking on/off the way it is handled by the plugin would allow a lot more harmonic possibilities. I was also looking for mentions of how panning works in this algorithm and couldn’t find anything, is hard panned for each voice ? …

          Isn’t QVox modeled after the original PitchFactor effect?  In any case, you can shut off any of the 4 voices, if that’s what you mean here.  Voice A & C hard-panned left, Voices B & D hard-panned right.  Pitch Mix shifts the ratio between the 2 pairs of voices.

          Another thing you might try is using one of the just-released Vocalxxxx algos.  VocalShift has a lot of control over each of the 3 scale-constrained voices, and it’s hardly limited to processing of vocals.

          … I really like playing with panning on each voice for pitched delays…

          Within many of the algorithms, you’re all set for panning per-voice.  At times, ‘split’ the voices from centered to L&R widening.  If not, here’s where that 2nd Preset comes in.  I’ll often narrow or expand the spatial placement using a following algo in Series.

          … Also noticed I could do it with Harpeggiator but not being able to creat my own sequence seems too restricted, couldn’t find any info on how panning is handled for this one either…

          Yeah, user scales have been a frequent request since the ‘Factor pedal days.  But with all of the combinations of (pitch) Sequences, Rhythms, & FX, you can still manage some surprising results.  Here are a few examples, in a Preset List for the H9.  You can load this into the H90 at some future point:  Seq View – 50 HarPeggiator Presets

          Similar to the QuadraVox panning: the “A” processing is hard left, the “B” processing is hard-right, with Arp Mix controlling the ratio between the two.

          … Please tell if I missed anything!…

          It’s just a lot to absorb without having an H90 in front of you.  The H90 Control app gives you visual feedback on nearly every aspect of what’s going on, while you’re getting the audio feedback from the hardware.  And if you ever get stuck, the (constantly updated) online manual is a click away, focused on the algorithm you’re working with.

        • #190071
          0ak
          Participant

            Pretty exciting stuff!! Thank you for your answer, I’m gonna dive a bit more in other algorithms and yeah I guess I should just try it hands on!

            Didn’t think of hotswith mapping and this gives ideas! I’m a heavy user of Empress Zoia and there should be many ways to expand custimisation with midi. I could set sequencer on the Zoia sending midi info to the panning parameter on H90 or completely randomize it.

            By “being able to turn pitch tracking on and off” I was refering to the pitch tracking feature in the Quadravox vst, this is what it does:

            “This is used to turn off the pitch detection entirely when using
            Quadravox on non-pitched or polyphonic instruments. By turn-
            ing off Pitch Tracking, the plug-in will act as though the incom-
            ing pitch is always the root note of the scale. This allows the
            plug-ins to be used on drum tracks and many other types of
            instruments.”

            I was looking to replicate the Octavox vst with pitch tracking off and delays set at equal distances to create custom sequences up to 8 notes. With two Quadravox set in parrallel on the H90 it seemed possible but only with pitch tracking “on”.

            User scales would indeed be absolutly awesome but maybe each scale need to be optimized and letting users craft their own would lower the quality of harmonizing and note priority ? I don’t know.

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