H90 with Boss ES-8

[Sorbz62]

I am looking for a little advice in order to maximise the potential of my new H90.

I use my Boss ES-8 in 4cm and want to connect my H90 to the stereo loops (#7 &8) in dual mode, enabling me to place each effect anywhere in the signal chain according to preset.

I’m not sure if this is the best way to do this. The ES-8 is the rig controller with midi and control change functions.

Also if using an H9 as well, where would you put it?

Finally, if only using a mono rig, would you connect the H90 and H9 in mono loops?

Cheers in advance,

Jim

[tbskoglund]

Using Dual Mode on the H90 would allow for any combination of presets on either loop 7 or 8, so that is definitely a good option.

If you have another loop free on your ES-8, I would set it up in it’s own loop. If your rig is mono, then you should make all of your H90/H9 connections in mono.

[rograt]

I have just received my H90. I am already thrilled with it and have enabled Dual Routing for use with my trusty Boss ES-8.

I have ES-8 Loop 7 pre Volume loop using In/Out 1 of the H90

I have ES-8 Loop 8 post Volume loop using In/Out 3 of the H90

Initial problem is that none of the factory presets are set up this way so all effects are coming out through Loop 7 (before gain stages of the amp and the last thing I want as the default).

The Quick Reference Guide states “H90 has a complete set of alternate Program Lists with Dual Routing”.

Does anyone know how I access this alternate list so I can quickly familiarise myself with the sounds?

 

[tbskoglund]

Enabling Dual Mode will automatically change the available lists you can use. By default, the User 1 list will have all of the Presets on Path 1. You can press the Routing button to change which path the presets are on.

If you press the Programs button and select the Pre-Post or Bass list, these Programs will have one Preset on either path.

[rograt]

Thanks tbskoglund. Maybe it needs to reboot. I’ll try again.

The be clear I want to set up 3 types of program

1 Both presets on Loop 7
2 One Preset in Loop 7 and one Preset in Loop 8|
3 Both Presets in Loop 8

Can I do this? If so where do I go to drop the presets into the desired route? I looked in H90 control in Edit>Routing/Inserts and can only see how to set Series or Parallel.

I’m hoping this exercise will help others in the future.

[tbskoglund]

Yes, the presets can be placed anywhere on either path.

If your pedal is in dual mode, when you click the “Routing” tab in H90 Control, there are 5 options which allow you to put the presets on different paths.

[Sorbz62]

Just use 2 loops for the H90. You can put them in any order with the ES-8. Put it in dual mode and you’re good to go.

Also, put the H9 in another loop. You can put it and the H90 before or after the amp FX loop with the ES-8

[rograt]

So the presets automatically split across the 2 loops? That isn’t happening with the factory programs.

[rograt]

Also I have been in System and the Playlists available are User 1, 2, 3 and 4

[tbskoglund]

The presets will not automatically be on separate paths. You’ll need to configure this from the routing menu.

In H90 Control, click the Programs tab and then click the List tab in the upper left corner. There is a Factory Bass list and Factory Pre-Post list. These cannot be chosen as your playlist, but these offer Programs with one Preset on either path.

[rograt]

Thanks for the explanation. I found the lists, enabled the programs, saw the pre/post setting. For some reason the pre and post part is all output as pre. I’ll figure it out eventually.

[rograt]

OK all working fine now. Finally got all of the ducks in a row. Thanks for your help. This beast is going to be well worth the wait 🙂

[tbskoglund]

Glad to hear you got it sorted!

[Sorbz62]

@rograt. What did you do to rectify the issue?

[rograt]

I just got everything right. By the time I had all the settings right I had also turned off the amps effect loop on its footswitch – that’s what feeds loop 8 / path 2. So just before it worked I actually lost Path 2!

I also realised that User List 1 can be modified and took very little time to set 100 x program routings. The good thing is that some I left, some I split and some moved completely to the other path. I’m now enjoying tweaking the programs to learn the sounds before creating my own list.

There are some challenges further down the line. I like to change things on the fly and I realise that a footswitch for each path doesn’t help when both presets are in the same path. Switching on/off of presets will have to be done another way. Maybe using the 3 way switch I used with the Pitchfactor.

I’m using a MIDI Maestro to do the program selection (the ES-8 has enough to do) so this will be an amazing set up.

[tbskoglund]

Just to clarify, the A/B footswitches will always bypass/enable that preset, regardless of which path the preset is on.

[rograt]

Thanks for the clarification. I’m learning the distinction between these and the push LED buttons. I’ve had the user manual for months but nothing beats actually doing it!

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