I had a daydream about a new H9 feature…

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    • #112971
      air621
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      As my mind was wandering, thinking about guitar effects as likely happens with most peole here, I had a thought. I’ve been thinking about switchers like the GigRig and Boss ES8, how much I’d like one. But then I thought, what would be cooler would be if Eventide released a piece of switching hardware that can link up to the H9 somehow to blow up the possibilities of your pedalboard. I have no idea how this would work and especially if it could. But with how much I love my H9 and how it has expanded what I can do, it seemed like a nice next step in the H9 evolution

    • #141285
      gkellum
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      I've day dreamed about this as well.  People seem to have a lot of trouble configuring these switching systems correctly, which makes me think that this sort of system needs to have a better software interface to help people understand and change their configurations.  Having said that though, this isn't something that we're working on at the moment…

    • #141289
      spaceJam
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      Something really helpful would be a list of recommended MIDI controllers that work 100% with all the features the Eventide stompboxes offer.

      • #141322
        gkellum
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        spaceJam wrote:

        Something really helpful would be a list of recommended MIDI controllers that work 100% with all the features the Eventide stompboxes offer.

        I thought about doing this at the same time we were putting together a list of recommended expression pedals.  The problem is that (1) people are using MIDI controllers to do quite different things and (2) most people just want a cheap simple MIDI footswitch with a few buttons, and (3) none of the cheap MIDI footswitches seem to be programmable.  Some are sending out MIDI CC messages.  Others are sending out MIDI program change messages.  No two boxes seem to work alike, and no single box seems to work with all of the features that Eventide stompboxes offer.

        Really it seems like the only way to get a simple MIDI controller nowadays that does exactly what you want is to do what dmessick did and spend $30 on some parts using a layout and code anyone can download from the internet:

        https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/stompboxes/h9-midi-controller-diy-0

    • #141326
      Given To Fly
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      I’m simplifying this quite a bit but I can not imagine its out of the realm of possiblity. Eventide has made it really easy, though expensive, to turn 1 H9 Max and 4 H9 Core’s into 5 H9 Max’s. (Correct me if I’m wrong on that.) Why not put 5 H9 Max’s in a pedalboard format a la Fractal FX-8 (which actually looks like a Bob Bradshaw pedalboard…kind of) and have all of the Eventide algorithms available anywhere in the signal chain with all the routing done internally? Again, I’m simplifying this quite a bit but I have no doubt Eventide could do create something much better than what I’ve described. yes

      • #141328
        gkellum
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        Given To Fly wrote:

        Why not put 5 H9 Max's in a pedalboard format a la Fractal FX-8 (which actually looks like a Bob Bradshaw pedalboard…kind of) and have all of the Eventide algorithms available anywhere in the signal chain with all the routing done internally? Again, I'm simplifying this quite a bit but I have no doubt Eventide could do create something much better than what I've described. yes

        Well, we're looking at new parts all of the time.  Eventually, that will happen.  It's inevitable.  Processors keep getting faster and cheaper.  It's only a question of when, and that's true not only for Eventide but for everyone making digital pedals.  (But just to be clear… We're not currently working on a 4 or 5 core pedal board…)

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        Given To Fly
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        gkellum wrote:

        Given To Fly wrote:

        Why not put 5 H9 Max’s in a pedalboard format a la Fractal FX-8 (which actually looks like a Bob Bradshaw pedalboard…kind of) and have all of the Eventide algorithms available anywhere in the signal chain with all the routing done internally? Again, I’m simplifying this quite a bit but I have no doubt Eventide could do create something much better than what I’ve described. yes

        Well, we’re looking at new parts all of the time.  Eventually, that will happen.  It’s inevitable.  Processors keep getting faster and cheaper.  It’s only a question of when, and that’s true not only for Eventide but for everyone making digital pedals.  (But just to be clear… We’re not currently working on a 4 or 5 core pedal board…)

        I still think a 5 core pedal board would be great, but perhaps a broader observation would be more useful. The musical instrument/pro audio market is oversaturated with products. It’s a buyers market at the moment. Contrary to common thought (and possibly economics) I don’t want buying power, I want things that work. The Eventide logo carries more weight then ever now. When I needed a power supply to power my Eventide pedals I bought an Eventide PowerFactor. It was that simple. I also learned about Cioks in the process whom I now trust to power any and all of my pedals. Problems arose when it came to buying an expression pedal and Aux. switches. Most expression pedals use a TRS jack and none of them seemed to be rated at anything less than 50 k Ohm’s. Your recommendation was to use a TS cable with a volume pedal that has no relation to Eventide. Needless to say I bought a traditional expression pedal, it didn’t work properly, so I  listened to your recommendation and went with the Ernie Ball Jr. 25K Volume Pedal and things worked out. For the Aux. switch I bought Digitech FS-300’s based on your recommendation and things again worked out. I should have mentioned that I had never bouth an expression pedal before nor Aux. Switches. That probably puts me in the minority among Eventide owners. Regardless, if the Eventide logo is on a product that fulfills an Eventide related need, I’ll buy it because so far every product with the Eventide logo has worked flawlessly. I honestly do not trust expression pedal manufactures that claim their pedal will work on all Eventide pedals, especially when they use a TRS cable and are rated at 50k Ohms.  

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        The Factor/H9 pedals can not be used to their full potential out of the box. You know what 3rd party products will work with your products, and while you share that information liberally, actions speak louder than words and your stamp of approval, the Eventide logo, has the power to instill buyer confidence and eliminate doubt. The 5 core  H9 pedalboard idea turns 5 pedals, 1 pedalboard, a lot of patch cables, 1 power supply into a single product that I could carry with one hand and not have to rely on velcro to keep everything together. Eventide makes complex products and I do not expect, nor hope, that to change. My idea eliminates the need for Eventide employees to figure out which MIDI controllers, expression pedals, and Aux. switchs work and which do not. They could simply say “Eventide products work with Eventide products.”

        Or, if you could just make an H8000FW pedalboard that would suffice. yes

         

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