Last Vsig 2 (pre-H9000) version?

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    • #176633
      atarirob
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        Hi all,

        I am just wondering what the official latest version of VSigfile 2 is. I’ve been using a H8000FW for the last 6 months, and Vsigfile ver. 2.4.9.0 dated 2007 to assemble my algorithms.

        This version is relatively stable and I’m very happy using it, but I was just wondering if there is a version newer than 2.4.9.0? The H9000 was released in 2017 and I find it hard to believe that Eventide would let Vsig languish for 10 years. There are a handful of modules for example that have no ‘Help on Module’ information available. I’ve also found a few ways to make it consistantly crash and have encountered some strange bugs when assembling larger ‘monolithic’ algorithms, like module i/o’s randombly disappearing and needing to be manually set to ‘Show All Fields’. Again, not huge issues. Nick did a fantastic job designing Vsig! But would be lovely to have a definitive Vsig 2 for users of older machines.

        Thanks!

      • #176776
        tbskoglund
        Keymaster
        Eventide Staff

          Hello,

          2.4.9 is the latest official version and most likely the final version. All of the downloads for the legacy version of VSig can be found here: https://www.eventideaudio.com/downloads/?product=VSig

          • #176777
            fiddlercrabseason
            Participant

              …most likely the final version…

              I’m curious as to why.  I’ve been holding out hope that H90 users might get to use that to do some home cookin some day.

            • #176779
              tbskoglund
              Keymaster
              Eventide Staff

                The version of VSig being discussed here is the legacy version of the software for older products. VSig3 is the current version for H9000 owners.

                I’m not confirming whether or not VSig will ever be available for the H90, but it wouldn’t be the older version of the software.

              • #176782
                fiddlercrabseason
                Participant

                  Thanks for clarifying…  and keeping the dream alive 🙂

              • #176781
                atarirob
                Participant

                  Thanks for the reply! Fair enough – I hope one day the old Vsig 2 is made open source, or at least updated one final time to add support for modules like ‘DLYSMP2’ or ‘SIMPSAMP’ for example, which currently have don’t function (‘Factor’ preset building blocks perhaps?). I’d love to see it put in the hands of those still using Orville’s, 7600’s, 8000’s, etc.

                  It’s a joy to use (I’ve actually had dreams about building algorithms in Vsig a few times!). There’s a certain definitiveness to using Vsig that I just don’t feel when I use other module-based apps like Reaktor or Max, where the program often becomes too large for it’s own good and the need to tweak the minutiae is always present – my ideas never feel totally realised. VSig (the old Harmonizer platform that started with the DSP4000) is almost perfect imo. Would be a massive treat for us still using the 8000 and below to get it open-source’d…I know many people still using Vsig with Orville’s, even 25 years later – they just aren’t outdated!

                  Anyway, thanks again for the reply (I actually stopped building a granular sampler/delay algo in Vsig to reply lol).

                • #196600
                  sean.e
                  Participant

                    +1 to release of source for vsig 2.4.9 — not open sourcing it as a maintained project, just releasing the source for tinkerers

                    +1 to any info, for posterity’s sake, on modules that are missing from the help file:

                    • C_CHANGE
                    • C_HOLD
                    • C_KEYSEL
                    • C_PLD
                    • DLYSMP2
                    • MULTIDELAY
                    • PRECISIONDELAY
                    • SIMPSAMP
                    • MODFILTP
                    • MODHICUT
                    • SKMONITOR
                    • SYS_CONT
                    • AUXXIN

                    Here in 2026, over 20 years after I got it, I still use the H8000, and occasionally create new algorithms in Vsig 2.4.9 on Windows 10/11.  Weirdly enough, I only started using its ADAT I/O this year…

                  • #196702
                    Puppeteer
                    Participant

                      If VSIG 2 structured similarly to VSIG3, the help files are contained in the database, so you could potentially add entries just by copying and hacking a database and loading up the modified database.

                    • #196770
                      sean.e
                      Participant

                        In VSIG 2 the help file is a .chm — Microsoft Compiled HTML Help.  It seems like it might be possible to decompile it to make edits.

                        That aside, I found many of the VSIG 2 undocumented modules are described in your VSIG 3 modules unofficial reference guide — thanks.

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