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December 15, 2010 at 8:31 pm #107480
Got my new modfactor today. After plugging it in and playing for a few minutes it begins automaticaally scrolling through settings and parameters randomly at great speed constantly stopping and starting.
Ive tried powering it from the eeventide power supply and a Cioks DC-10 which has a dedicated outlet designed for the factor pedals. Ive been running it in front of my amp with the switches set correct way. This also happens when just the power supply is connected and nothing else.
Any suggestions? Would updating the software help? Any help would be much appreciated.
December 15, 2010 at 9:16 pm #121210
December 16, 2010 at 7:18 pm #121216
Ok, that is three of us who have posted this issue. Either we have accidentally done something to the settings to cause this behavior we see (user error) or there is possibly a manufacturing problem?
In my case, I did try updating to the V3 software and then reverting back. I saw this same behavior in both versions.
December 16, 2010 at 7:52 pm #121217
This problem can be caused by abusive behavior towards the power input
socket, but apart from that or pouring beer into the input jacks it is probably not anything you are doing.
It is possible for a knob to be "right on the edge", and flash its value repeatedly, but this is somewhat unlikely to happen for multiple knobs, which seems to be what you are describing.
Best let email@example.com handle it.
December 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm #132376
Interesting, as I said in another thread, I had purchased mine used from GC and there is definitely a problem with the power input socket. A slight touch causes the unit to seemingly reset. I just find it interesting that three people are reporting the same issue and would like to know what is common across all three instances.
December 16, 2010 at 8:18 pm #132377
The power input socket is prone to physical abuse and on a used unit may well have received more than its fair share. Further, a damaged connector may have prompted the sale.
If we were to do it all over again we'd probably use a more substantial and expensive metal connector, but this would then be non-standard and less useful. Kinda hard to win here.
December 16, 2010 at 8:45 pm #132378
So, I am literally about to go exchange the used unit and get a new one, is there anything I can do to stabilize that power jack?
December 16, 2010 at 8:54 pm #132379
Essentially you must be kind to it – the same issue will arise with any other externally powered pedal – it's not a unique feature of ours.
December 17, 2010 at 12:05 am #132380
Well if its any help i really dont think its an issue with the power input on mine its right out of the box and its rock solid.
Support suggested i initialize the unit and so far it has been stable but i only had half an hour to test today. Ill continue testing for a few days and ill keep you guys posted on how its going either way.
December 23, 2010 at 10:06 pm #132408
Ok its been a few days now and there has been improvement. After the initialize the unit wasnt anything like as unstable as it had been. There were some rare instances of parameter fluctuation but nothing like as bad as it had been.
Today i updated to version 3 software and so far the unit has been functinoing perfectly. I hope my experience is of some help to somebody and if there is any change in the units performance ill be back on here and let you know.
December 26, 2010 at 4:21 pm #132411
I am still waiting on my exchange unit to arrive, but thanks for the update. It is reassuring to hear your issue has seemingly been resolved.
January 2, 2011 at 6:59 am #132433
I have a ModFactor and a TimeFactor, both bought brand new and in the early days of their initial release. Neither has done more than a couple of gigs but I have made many YouTube demos with them (to your advantage I would hope) and both are now unreliable to the point where I wouldn't even consider taking them on stage – because of the dodgy DC input issue. The TimeFactor is the worse offended, continually powering off and resetting, but the ModFactor is fast approaching the same depth of unreliability.
So my question to you is: Are you able to issue to your local and international service agents – in a hurry – some metal replacement DC input jacks that can be retrofitted without too much fuss to make my units (and many others, I'm sure) usable again? Or, could you post a mod and component advice for those with the ability (and willingness to take the risk) to do it themselves?
January 3, 2011 at 4:53 pm #132439
There is no currently available replacement for these connectors – everyone uses them and will have the same problem. Try switch cleaner in case it is an oxidation issue, but it is probably mechanical damage which would need the socket to be replaced..
Were it me, I would take the unit apart and solder the wires to the motherboard, but this would be unsupported, so we can't give you any instructions. It would also be a bad thing if someone tripped over the cable.
January 4, 2011 at 1:16 am #132441
Ok after some time persevering with the better operation i was experiencing the unit again deteriorated into the same randomizing of parameters i was experiencing when i first turned it on and became completely unusable at a gig on new years eve. It is in the box to be returned tomorrow for a replacement from the dealer. I really dont think the issue was related to the power input in my case it never felt loose or unstable and i used a couple of different supplies with the same results.It was definitely internal and i hope my new unit will be ok when it arrives as when it was working i was really enjoying all the modfactor had to offer.
On an unrelated not to Brett who posted earlier, i am a huge fan of your videos. Keep up the good work man im always advising my friends here in Ireland to check out your vids! Nick you guys should definitely be sending this guy free gear his demos were absolutely one of the reasons i went on to buy my modfactor and will be buying a timefactor this week also and im sure im not the only one.
January 4, 2011 at 12:46 pm #132443madmacMember
If you need these in a hurry I would just go to your local Jaycar and get these. Part No: PS0520
They look like they could be the right ones for a direct swap. Although I haven't pulled mine apart to confirm it.
Personally I would be very hesitant to use the metal jacks as they usually make contact with the enclosure of the effect which could cause problems with power supplies with other pedals that have a positive ground.
Are you still using the Trex Chameleon to power them?
January 15, 2011 at 1:40 am #132590
Thanks for your kind words, sir. I had no idea that my video influence stretched that far. I'm very flattered.
I still haven't fixed the Time/ModFactor power issue. In fact, I shot a new vid today showing Fibonacci sequences on the TimeFactor (will be posted in the next 24 hours) and I had to start/stop the filming about 5 times because of this issue. Not very happy.
January 15, 2011 at 1:45 am #132591
No mate, I gave up on the Chameleon to power the Factors because I thought they were drawing to much current, even at 12V. So I switched to to a Yankee PS-M2; a rather rare power supply made in Poland. Does the trick. It turns out, though, that my worries about the Chameleon may have been unfounded after all because I think the issue that aroused my suspicions – units turning on/off at random – was probably caused by worn out DC inputs on the Factors themselves.
Thanks for the heads up on the replacement parts. If I had the skill I'd do that replacement myself, but alas.. So I'll let Eventide's service agent in Australia do it (when the finally get the parts..)
January 18, 2011 at 10:37 pm #132628Jeff MarshMember
I saw these pedals at NAMM, and I want to buy all 4 of them. But hearing that a devoted customer such as Brett, who makes his own video demos, claims he can't use them on stage… well, this is unsettling to say the least.
Has this issue been addressed besides the polite response on the forum?
Can someone please talk me back into buying these pedals? They really do sound great. It's just that I really want to be able to take them on stage.
January 18, 2011 at 10:43 pm #121433
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