Some VSig questions.

[tonyshred]

I just got myself an H9000, though I’m a long time Eventide user from back in the Orville days, and still have the H8000. I did make a lot of algorithms back in the day but it slowly died since I went into Mac only territory. Anyway since I now got this up to date unit I got some questions I hope someone can answer.

 

• Is it possible to have more than one graphic window open? Super convenient when you need to copy a string of modules.
• The shortcut for rearranging the module order doesn’t work for me, shift and arrow, am I wrong? (Mac)
• Previously the textblock with info of the algorithms showed up in the menu on the screen, but I can’t find that on The H9000.
• Is is possible to tag user algorithms into categories, like delay, reverb, instruments etc.?
• When you need to add extra strings to modules for instance a menupage, previously you could add inputs in the middle of the row and then you opened up a spot. Is that still possible?
• And the multimilliondollar question, what’s the easiest way to convert old sigfiles from the H8000 to H9000. I’ve been doing it module by module from VsigX 1.9. It takes a long time.

This is what I have in mind for now.

Thanks

Tony

[tonyshred]

Just found out about the shortcut for rearranging the modules, it was occupied by Mission Control on my computer.

 

But another thing. When you copy a module, is it possible yo paste it into the exact module order it’s meant to be? It seems like it always ends up last in the order.

[Puppeteer]

tonyshred wrote:

• Is it possible to have more than one graphic window open? Super convenient when you need to copy a string of modules.

Yes, in the File menu select New Window (Ctrl + Shift + N).  You can then load or download or create another algorithm in this window.

tonyshred wrote:

• The shortcut for rearranging the module order doesn’t work for me, shift and arrow, am I wrong? (Mac)

On windows its Ctrl and Up/Down Arrows. If you right click on a block it will show you a menu where you can increment or decrement index order.  The shortcut keys are displayed next to it.

Alternatively, select the modules tab above the library modules and you can drag and drop the order of the modules.  Bulk moving doesn’t work yet unfortunately, but it’s still a lot quicker than the shortcut key when you need to move a module a long way in the list.

tonyshred wrote:

• Previously the textblock with info of the algorithms showed up in the menu on the screen, but I can’t find that on The H9000.

This isn’t currently supported, but Eventide told me that it will be enabled at some stage.  I currently use a text block that I wire to an adc-kids block so that there is a bit of info available for the user as the last screen.

tonyshred wrote:

• Is is possible to tag user algorithms into categories, like delay, reverb, instruments etc.?

There are some tags in the algorithm reference here – https://www.barryrudolph.com/recall/manuals/eventide_h9000_algor.pdf but I’m not sure if they propagate with user algorithms.  I need to experiment with this at some stage.

tonyshred wrote:

• When you need to add extra strings to modules for instance a menupage, previously you could add inputs in the middle of the row and then you opened up a spot. Is that still possible?

Nope, but it would be nice.  I never owned a H8000, but from what I can see, the H9000 is more flexible generally because you aren’t limited to 4 controls per screen and you can expand menu pages by increasing the number of inputs.

tonyshred wrote:

• And the multimilliondollar question, what’s the easiest way to convert old sigfiles from the H8000 to H9000. I’ve been doing it module by module from VsigX 1.9. It takes a long time.

I’ve thought about this a bit, but not having a H8000 doing conversions is tricky for me.  I’d probably look at the sig files in a text editor and copy/paste the important bits, but some modules have been deprecated and some need different I/O, so a few blocks may need some manual editing.  The head section is probably different, so I’d create a template in VSIG first, and you need to make sure there is something after the final tail | in the programming section (as opposed to the layout section), or the algorithm will only open as a thru block.

When you paste a module, it’s always the last module.  Use the modules window to drag it to the correct position.

[tonyshred]

tonyshred wrote:
Is it possible to have more than one graphic window open? Super convenient when you need to copy a string of modules.

Yes, in the File menu select New Window (Ctrl + Shift + N).  You can then load or download or create another algorithm in this window.

Can’t believe I missed this. But Thanks a lot.

tonyshred wrote:
Previously the textblock with info of the algorithms showed up in the menu on the screen, but I can’t find that on The H9000.

This isn’t currently supported, but Eventide told me that it will be enabled at some stage.  I currently use a text block that I wire to an adc-kids block so that there is a bit of info available for the user as the last screen.

I found a workaround though. Connecting a textblock to a menupage, and then into adc-kids. The weird thing is that you’re only allowed to type 20 characters in the textblock, but I can live with that.

 

Thanks

Tony

[ndeshpande]

tonyshred wrote:

When you copy a module, is it possible yo paste it into the exact module order it’s meant to be? It seems like it always ends up last in the order.

One quick workaround for this is that after you paste a new module into your sigfile, it will indeed be added last in the order. If you hold shift then click and drag your newly pasted module to hover over a second module, you can re-order it to be before the second module by hovering over the left side of the second module or after the second module by hovering over the right side. Half of the second module will highlight on the right or left, depending on where your mouse is for the reordering. Let go of the mouse click, and your module will now be re-ordered.

[tonyshred]

ndeshpande wrote:

tonyshred wrote:

When you copy a module, is it possible yo paste it into the exact module order it’s meant to be? It seems like it always ends up last in the order.

One quick workaround for this is that after you paste a new module into your sigfile, it will indeed be added last in the order. If you hold shift then click and drag your newly pasted module to hover over a second module, you can re-order it to be before the second module by hovering over the left side of the second module or after the second module by hovering over the right side. Half of the second module will highlight on the right or left, depending on where your mouse is for the reordering. Let go of the mouse click, and your module will now be re-ordered.

 

Super, thanks.

[Puppeteer]

tonyshred wrote:

tonyshred wrote:. I found a workaround though. Connecting a textblock to a menupage, and then into adc-kids. The weird thing is that you’re only allowed to type 20 characters in the textblock, but I can live with that. Thanks Tony

You can increase the number of lines of the text block, so multiple.lines of 20 characters are possible.  I normally use 16 to 20 lines.

[tonyshred]

Puppeteer wrote:

You can increase the number of lines of the text block, so multiple.lines of 20 characters are possible. I normally use 16 to 20 lines.

Maybe I Wasn’t quite clear, but you’re only allowed 20 characters per line. So it only fills half the screen. If you open up an old algorithm you can see that they have more characters in the line, but if you try to edit them the limitation kicks in. No biggie though.

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