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    • #106463
      achaput
      Moderator

      Eventide is happy to make its TimeFactor 2.4.0 software available as a Public Beta.

      This Public Beta is open to all registered owners of TimeFactor.

      Participation requires the following steps:

      Create an Eventide.com Account.

      Register your TimeFactor.

      Read the Release notes from the TimeFactor Support Page for features and installation instructions.

      Report any issues to TF_beta@eventide.com

    • #119081
      EdDrake
      Participant

      I just tried to launch the update utility to get the new TF software and the update utility won't launch, it immediately quits and never opens. I'm running Mac OS X 10.5.8.

      I can send the crash log if you need it.

    • #119082
      tomasgunn
      Member

      I'm not a TF owner but with the good experience I've had with my PF, I sure am interested.  In fact I'd like to follow what's going on with both the TF and MF.  So, my question is: why do I have to be a registered TF owner to see what's new? (release notes)  I can understand why that applies to getting the update itself, but… feature/fix list?

    • #119084
      IDeangelis
      Member

      Tomas

      here:

      TimeFactor Update Release Notes
      More Presets
      TimeFactor now supports up to 50 Banks/100 Presets.
      This update includes killer new factory presets.
      Improved Vintage Delay
      The Bits, Filter, and Feedback controls have been improved for a more authentic
      sound.
      Improved Tape Echo
      The Filter and Feedback controls have been improved for a more authentic
      sound.
      A Saturation control has replaced the Hiss control on the Xnob.
      Expression Pedal Improvements
      Expression Pedal Programming Activation:
      Expression Pedal programming is now activated only when the Expression Pedal
      is at the heel or toe position.
      Shorter Timeout:
      The Pedal Programming Timeout has been reduced to 2 seconds. This means
      that when you move the Expression Pedal to heel or toe position, TimeFactor will
      allow Expression Pedal programming for 2 seconds and then change to normal
      operation.
      Pedal Programming Lock:
      You can now optionally disable live Expression Pedal programming. (See
      System Menu Updates.)
      Parameter Fine-Tuning
      The Encoder can now be used to fine-tune all knob parameters if turned within 2
      seconds of turning any knob.
      Bank Select via Encoder Knob
      In Bank Mode, the Encoder can now be used to select banks in either direction if
      turned within 2 seconds of pressing a bank change footswitch.
      System Menu Updates
      [MIDI] – General Improvements have been made to MIDI operation, including
      these new MIDI Functions:
      [RCV CTL] – There are new choices for Receive Control to alter the unit’s
      BYPASS setting:
      ACT – Make the unit ACTive, i.e. not bypassed.
      TOG – TOGgle the between bypass and active.
      [RCV MAP] – BYPASS via Program Change
      As well as using MIDI program change to load a preset, now it can also be
      programmed to directly control the unit’s BYPASS setting. In the Receive
      Map menu you can now select one of the following:
      BYP – BYPass the unit
      ACT – Make the unit ACTive, i.e. not bypassed.
      TOG – TOGgle the between bypass and active.
      [CLK IN] – MIDI Input Clock Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Receive ON or OFF. If ON, MIDI Clock is
      used as a Tempo source.
      [CLK OUT] – MIDI Output Clock Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Transmit ON or OFF. If ON,
      TimeFactor can now be used as a MIDI Clock source.
      [CLK FLT] – MIDI Clock Filter Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Filtering ON or OFF. If ON,
      TimeFactor can be used with an unstable MIDI Clock source.
      [UTILITY] – New Utility Function:
      [PDLOCK] – "Lock" Expression Pedal settings
      When PDLOCK is set to ON, Expression Pedal programming is disabled
      and all Expression Pedal settings are locked. Default is OFF (unlocked).
      Miscellaneous Fixes
      MIDI Clock timing has been improved.
      The accuracy of using MIDI CC to control TAP has been improved.
      A received real time MIDI signal (e.g. MIDIclock) no longer terminates any sysex
      message also being received.
      When a RPT ON or RPT OFF message is displayed, the Encoder knob no longer
      gets locked out.
      It no longer takes two switch presses to turn-off Infinite Repeat after changing
      from Play mode to Bank mode.
      Dumping presets over USB no longer results in BAD LOAD messages.
      There was an issue when assigning an Aux Switch to tip=FS1, ring=FS2,
      t+r=FS3. From Bank Mode, loading a preset that was saved as Looper and then
      loading a different preset that was not Looper resulted in Tap Tempo from an aux
      switch to be ignored until you switched to Play Mode and then back to Bank
      Mode again.
      The displays for Tempo, Fdbk, Dly, are now consistent among all three Factor
      series Stompboxes.
      Overall Wet/Dry levels are now more consistent
      In System/MIDI/XMT CC when you change the MIDI CC numbers from factory
      defaults, the settings are no longer lost after power cycle.
      If an Aux Switch is assigned to control both TAP and STP, the settings are no
      longer lost after power cycle.
      When using an Aux Switch assigned to TAP, a single tap of the Aux Switch now
      displays the current tempo like a single tap on the on-board TAP footswitch does.
      When assigning an Aux Switch to P/B, the switch no longer decrements the Bank
      number with every other press.
      General improvements have been made to speed up the system response

      TimeFactor 2.4.0[1] Beta Presets List
      1:1 Pristine Digital Delay [DigitalDelay]
      1:2 Airplane Hanger [Multitap]
      2:1 Vintage Filtered Echoes [VintageDelay]
      2:2 Bridge of Sighs [DigitalDelay]
      3:1 Guitars in Space [BandDelay]
      3:2 Backwards Riffs [Reverse]
      4:1 Volume Swell Helper [DuckedDelay]
      4:2 Classic Slap [TapeEcho]
      5:1 TwinDelay [DigitalDelay]
      5:2 Classic Chorus [VintageDelay]
      6:1 Schizo Delay [FilterPong]
      6:2 Ethereal Echoes [Reverse]
      7:1 Copy Cat [DigitalDelay]
      7:2 Every Lead You Fake [ModDelay]
      8:1 Where the Avenues Have No Name [VintageDelay]
      8:2 Over the Rainbow [BandDelay]
      9:1 Lost Lunch [ModDelay]
      9:2 Ghost Town [MultiTap]
      10:1 Pedal Pitch [ModDelay]
      10:2 Dring Modulator [Reverse]
      11:1 Reggae Wahdelay Dark [BandDelay]
      11:2 Reggae Wahdelay Bright [BandDelay]
      12:1 500 Seater [MultiTap]
      12:2 Big Swellpad1 [MultiTap]
      13:1 MultiTap Hall [MultiTap]
      13:2 Ambient MultiTap [MultiTap]
      14:1 MultiTap WetLive [MultiTap]
      14:2 What I’m Looking For [DigitalDelay]
      15:1 Galloper MultiTap [DigitalDelay]
      15:2 Tapper [MultiTap]
      16:1 Springy Verb [FilterPong]
      16:2 Strummer [MultiTap]
      17:1 Strummer2 [MultiTap]
      17:2 King's Missile [MultiTap]
      18:1 Reverse Flutters [Reverse]
      18:2 Time Slips1 [BandDelay]
      19:1 Time Slips2 [BandDelay]
      19:2 Time Slips3 [BandDelay]
      20:1 1.. and 2 [DigitalDelay]
      20:2 1.. and 2 Mod [ModDelay]
      21:1 Lazyphasy [ModDelay]
      21:2 Funk Echo [ModDelay]
      22:1 PhaserEcho1 [ModDelay]
      22:2 PhaserEcho2 [ModDelay]
      23:1 Long Vintage [VintageDelay]
      23:2 AutoMarch [MultiTap]
      24:1 Reverse Flutters2 [Reverse]
      24:2 Pong Echoes [FilterPong]
      25:1 Nice Thick Thickener [FilterPong]
      25:2 Warped Record [TapeEcho]
      26:1 Record Head [TapeEcho]
      26:2 Wah Echo1 [BandDelay]
      27:1 Long Vintage2 [VintageDelay]
      27:2 WubbaWubbaWub [FilterPong]
      28:1 Science Museum [FilterPong]
      28:2 Reverse Space [Reverse]
      29:1 Backwards All [Reverse]
      29:2 Reverse Space2 [Reverse]
      30:1 Backwards All2 [Reverse]
      30:2 Reverse Space3 [Reverse]
      31:1 Reverse No Crystals [Reverse]
      31:2 Inside Out [Reverse]
      32:1 FlutterWow [TapeEcho]
      32:2 Big Warm Digital [DigitalDelay]
      33:1 Trem Delays [DigitalDelay]
      33:2 Dual Big Warm Digital [DigitalDelay]
      34:1 Big Nice Day [DigitalDelay]
      34:2 Filtered Digital [DigitalDelay]
      35:1 ChorusyTrem [DigitalDelay]
      35:2 Flaser [DigitalDelay]
      36:1 Storm Brewing1 [DigitalDelay]
      36:2 Storm Brewing2 [DigitalDelay]
      37:1 Haw Echoes1 [BandDelay]
      37:2 Haw Echoes2 [BandDelay]
      38:1 Phasery Band [BandDelay]
      38:2 Phasery Band2 [BandDelay]
      39:1 Country Compressor [DuckedDelay]
      39:2 Two Vintage Echoes [VintageDelay]
      40:1 SlapVintage [VintageDelay]
      40:2 Nice Old Echoes [VintageDelay]
      41:1 Ambient Vintage [VintageDelay]
      41:2 Long Old Delays [VintageDelay]
      42:1 Rotten Old Delays [VintageDelay]
      42:2 The Lo-Rez trail [VintageDelay]
      43:1 Be Wowed [TapeEcho]
      43:2 Phasery Banddelay [BandDelay]
      44:1 Ramp Up Reverse [Reverse]
      44:2 Creepy [ModDelay]
      45:1 GooeyFilteropong [FilterPong]
      45:2 Chorusphase No Delay [ModDelay]
      46:1 Unnatural Room [MultiTap]
      46:2 Turnit Back [Reverse]
      47:1 Slap Phase [BandDelay]
      47:2 Deep Phase Echo [ModDelay]
      48:1 And Wobblier [TapeEcho]
      48:2 More Reverse Slaps [Reverse]
      49:1 Trashcan Flange [DigitalDelay]
      49:2 It's the 5-0 [VintageDelay]
      50:1 The Closer [VintageDelay]
      50:2 Filter Echo [BandDelay]

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      ModFactor Update Release Notes
      More Presets
      ModFactor now supports up to 50 Banks/100 Presets.
      This update includes killer new factory presets.
      New Chorus Type
      A new Chorus algorithm, “Classic,” has been added to the Chorus Type knob.
      The Xnob acts as a filter to dial in a wide variety of warmer, vintage style chorus
      sounds.
      New Phaser Type
      A new Phaser algorithm, “PhaseX0,” has been added to the Phaser Type knob.
      The Xnob can switch between 2, 4, 6, and 8 Stages to provide a larger
      assortment of classic phaser sounds.
      Output Level Knob in Rotary
      The Rotary Effect now uses the Intensity knob as an output level control.
      Expression Pedal Improvements
      Expression Pedal Programming Activation:
      Expression Pedal programming is now activated only when the Expression Pedal
      is at the heel or toe position.
      Shorter Timeout:
      The Pedal Programming Timeout has been reduced to 2 seconds. This means
      that when you move the Expression Pedal to heel or toe position, ModFactor will
      allow Expression Pedal programming for 2 seconds and then change to normal
      operation.
      Pedal Programming Lock
      You can now optionally disable live Expression Pedal programming. (See below.)
      Parameter Fine-Tuning
      The Encoder can now be used to fine-tune all knob parameters if turned within 2
      seconds of turning any knob.
      Bank Select via Encoder Knob
      In Bank Mode, the Encoder can now be used to select banks in either direction if
      turned within 2 seconds of pressing a bank change footswitch.
      System Menu Updates
      [MIDI] – General Improvements have been made to MIDI operation, including
      these new MIDI Functions:
      [RCV CTL] – There are new choices for Receive Control to alter the unit’s
      BYPASS setting:
      ACT – Make the unit ACTive, i.e. not bypassed.
      TOG – TOGgle the between bypass and active.
      [RCV MAP] – BYPASS via Program Change
      As well as using MIDI program change to load a preset, now it can also be
      programmed to directly control the unit’s BYPASS setting. In the Receive
      Map menu you can now select one of the following:
      BYP – BYPass the unit
      ACT – Make the unit ACTive, i.e. not bypassed.
      TOG – TOGgle the between bypass and active.
      [CLK IN] – MIDI Input Clock Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Receive ON or OFF. If ON, MIDI Clock is
      used as a Tempo source.
      [CLK OUT] – MIDI Output Clock Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Transmit ON or OFF. If ON,
      ModFactor can now be used as a MIDI Clock source.
      [CLK FLT] – MIDI Clock Filter Enable
      Turn Encoder to set MIDI Clock Filtering ON or OFF. If ON,
      ModFactor can be used with an unstable MIDI Clock source.
      [UTILITY] – New Utility Function:
      [PDLOCK] – "Lock" Expression Pedal settings
      When PDLOCK is set to ON, Expression Pedal programming is disabled
      and all Expression Pedal settings are locked. Default is OFF (unlocked).
      Miscellaneous Fixes
      MIDI Clock timing has been improved.
      The accuracy of using MIDI CC to control TAP has been improved.
      A received real time MIDI signal (e.g. MIDIclock) no longer terminates any sysex
      message also being received.
      Dumping presets over USB no longer results in BAD LOAD messages.
      The displays for Tempo and Dly, are now consistent among all three Factor
      series Stompboxes.
      Overall Wet/Dry levels are now more consistent.
      In System/MIDI/XMT CC when you change the MIDI CC numbers from factory
      defaults, the settings are no longer lost after power cycle.
      TremoloPan in no longer mutes the signal coming from Input 2.
      When using an Aux Switch assigned to TAP, a single tap of the Aux Switch now
      displays the current tempo like a single tap on the on-board TAP footswitch does.
      When receiving a MIDI CC set to control the PDL parameter, the audio is now
      affected correctly.
      When assigning an Aux Switch to P/B, the switch no longer decrements the Bank
      number with every other press.
      General improvements have been made to speed up the system response

      ModFactor 2.4.0[1] Beta Presets List
      1:1 Liquid Fructose [Chorus]
      1:2 Big Clone [Chorus]
      2:1 FunkPhase [Phaser]
      2:2 Ain't Talkin 'Bout Phase [Phaser]
      3:1 Talking Back [Q-Wah]
      3:2 Ottawa [Q-Wah]
      4:1 Long Flyby [Flanger]
      4:2 Barrel Roll [Flanger]
      5:1 Bass Auto Wah [ModFilter]
      5:2 Jupiter Reacts [ModFilter]
      6:1 Slowly Rotate [Rotary]
      6:2 Whirling Dervish [Rotary]
      7:1 Tumbleweed Trem [TremoloPan]
      7:2 Modacity [TremoloPan]
      8:1 Swamp Moon [Vibrato]
      8:2 Warped Vinyl [Vibrato]
      9:1 Quadruple Peaks [Undulator]
      9:2 Never There [Undulator]
      10:1 What's That Smell? [RingMod]
      10:2 Guitar Drums [RingMod]
      11:1 Polymodelicious [Chorus]
      11:2 Chorus Bumps [Chorus]
      12:1 Phaser Wah [Phaser]
      12:2 Lou-nivibe [Phaser]
      13:1 Mumbler [Q-Wah]
      13:2 Vintage Wah [Q-Wah]
      14:1 Sugarflange [Flanger]
      14:2 Rotator Flange [Flanger]
      15:1 Nervous Filter [ModFilter]
      15:2 Hyperwah [ModFilter]
      16:1 Big Cabinet [Rotary]
      16:2 Hyper Rotor [Rotary]
      17:1 Special Agent Factor [TremoloPan]
      17:2 Flutter Trem [TremoloPan]
      18:1 DynaVibrato [Vibrato]
      18:2 Quiverer [Vibrato]
      19:1 Lonesome Trail [Undulator]
      19:2 Time Lapse [Undulator]
      20:1 HellsBells [RingMod]
      20:2 Static [RingMod]
      21:1 LazyPhasyWah [Q-Wah]
      21:2 SquaremodWah [Q-Wah]
      22:1 PhasyWah [Q-Wah]
      22:2 LessEvenAutoWah [Q-Wah]
      23:1 VibraPhaser [Phaser]
      23:2 SawModPhaser [Phaser]
      24:1 WateryFilter Dark [ModFilter]
      24:2 WateryFilterBright [ModFilter]
      25:1 BubblyFilter [ModFilter]
      25:2 ElectricityRing [RingMod]
      26:1 Ring's Trem [RingMod]
      26:2 Ring's Leslie Fast [RingMod]
      27:1 Ring's Leslie Slow [RingMod]
      27:2 Ring's Chorus [RingMod]
      28:1 Ring's Trem2 [RingMod]
      28:2 Ring's Trem 2 Faster [RingMod]
      29:1 Trem Turns Ugly[RingMod]
      29:2 Interference [RingMod]
      30:1 BuzzBells [RingMod]
      30:2 JazzyRotary [Rotary]
      31:1 Treble Spin [Rotary]
      31:2 BassStillRotary [Rotary]
      32:1 AutoFastSlowRotary [Rotary]
      32:2 AutoFastSlowRotary2 [Rotary]
      33:1 Pulsing Trem [TremoloPan]
      33:2 PhasyChorus [Chorus]
      34:1 ClassicFlangeSweep [Flanger]
      34:2 ClassicFlangeSweep2 [Flanger]
      35:1 PulsingFlange [Flanger]
      35:2 PulsingWowFlange [Flanger]
      36:1 PulsingFlange2 [Flanger]
      36:2 Nervous Wah [Q-Wah]
      37:1 SlowSweepwithTreats [Q-Wah]
      37:2 BigModdedPlanetSweep [Q-Wah]
      38:1 SoftChopper [Q-Wah]
      38:2 SubtleFlange [Flanger]
      39:1 PulserFlange [Flanger]
      39:2 Subtle-Drastic Flange [Flanger]
      40:1 SubtleFlange2 [Flanger]
      40:2 TremModFilter [ModFilter]
      41:1 VibraVibe [Vibrato]
      41:2 VibraVibe2 [Vibrato]
      42:1 VibraViby [Vibrato]
      42:2 Wah-bravibe [Q-Wah]
      43:1 OldTyme Radio [Rotary]
      43:2 Spaceship Rotary [Rotary]
      44:1 Square Chopper [TremoloPan]
      44:2 Chopper Trem [TremoloPan]
      45:1 HyperChopTrem [TremoloPan]
      45:2 Chopdulator [Undulator]
      46:1 Tremdulator [Undulator]
      46:2 Dreamdulator [Undulator]
      47:1 StoppedPhase [Phaser]
      47:2 HyperChopTrem2 [TremoloPan]
      48:1 DreamyDreamulator [Undulator]
      48:2 VibraPhaser2 [Vibrato]
      49:1 DreamyDreamulator2 [Undulator]
      49:2 RampChopper [TremoloPan]
      50:1 Phat Phase [Phaser]
      50:2 VibraPhasyWah [Q-Wah]

    • #119085
      Burger666
      Member

      Alan,

      The update is fabulous, thank you.

      As the OP of the 'Disappointing' thread I would like to wave the white flag and the olive branch and let others know that the wait was worth it. I've spent the best part of three hours just enjoying the new patches. Thanks again. On to the Modfactor now.. 🙂

      Brett K.

      achaput:

      Eventide is happy to make its TimeFactor 2.4.0 software available as a Public Beta.

      This Public Beta is open to all registered owners of TimeFactor.

      Participation requires the following steps:

      Create an Eventide.com Account.

      Show More...

      Register your TimeFactor.

      Read the Release notes from the TimeFactor Support Page for features and installation instructions.

      Report any issues to TF_beta.eventide.com

      Show Less...
  • #119090
    grozeil
    Member

    Thanks for the update, I had some good time enjoying some of the new presets with this improved sound on tape Echo and Analog delay. But, is it normal that the spillover don't function anymore, whatever bypass type engaged??? When I disabled the preset, spillover don't continue!

  • #119091
    badmelonfarmer
    Participant

    MAN!!!!!

    Thanks guys!!

    Major updates to 2 of my fave pedals and delivery of a Gearmanndude Lothar all int he same day!!!

    Too many toys for christmas day!!

    Thanks

    BMF

  • #119092
    grozeil
    Member

    It seems that the problem I described earlier happens to the presets up to 39.2… Anyone noticed the same thing???

  • #130214
    grozeil
    Member

    Edit  : well when I change this preset from analog to digital, it doesn't happen anymore… it seems that the spillover doesn't function with analog and tape echo presets. Any ideas?

  • #130216
    achaput
    Moderator

    This appears to be a bug. We are looking into it. Thanks for the heads up!

  • #130217
    harrysnapperorgans
    Member

    Stoked about the update, will install tonight.

  • #119095
    BTBAM
    Member

    I still cannot figure out how to use the sysex program on my mac to backup presets.  Last time I thought it worked but then the presets would never get back onto the unit, or weren't actually saved.  This time I'd really like to not lose my information.  Can anyone please step by step help me with this?

  • #119096
    damienl64
    Member

         

    Thanks guys!

  • #130218
    tomasgunn
    Member

    thanks. much appreciated Yes

  • #119098
    JNPMusic
    Member

    I'm having a hard time updating! After I agree to install the update the wheel just keeps spinning and nothing happens! I Let it go for awhile but it doesn't update….. how long does it take?

    Thanks!

    John

  • #119100
    JNPMusic
    Member

    OK! I just tried installing it with mac os 10.6 Leopard several times and it didn't work! I then grabbed my laptop with 10.5 and it worked great! Not sure if Leopard has anything to do with it but this solved my problem!…. 

  • #130220
    IDeangelis
    Member

    Hi

    10.5.x = Leopard

    10.6.x = Snow Leopard

    It may well be possible the update software is not yet compatible with 10.6. Using 10.5.x should help, as you have already found out.

    best

    I

  • #130221
    badmelonfarmer
    Participant

    Hi,

    I updated with 10.6.1 and it worked.

    I did have to restart the Updater a couple of times and start the TimeFactor in update mode.

    but it worked eventually.

    Cheers

    BMF

  • #130222
    IDeangelis
    Member

    Good to know!

    Thanks

    I

  • #130223
    EdDrake
    Participant

    I did eventually get the updater to work but not in Leopard (10.5.8) I had to go to another computer in my house that has Tiger 10.4.11 installed where the updater opened up fine and worked without a hitch. It would never open at all on Leopard, it spun for a sec then immediately quit and some error message came up saying it had to unexpectedly close and did I want to report this to Apple.

    Not sure what was going on but at least I'm updated now!

  • #130225
    Teahead
    Member

    I get a "Microsoft Visual C++" error when trying to download the new updates. I seem to recall having to download the last updates separately and manually select them. Will I need to do this again and if so could I get a reminder of how to do it and directions to where might I access the file?

    Many thanks.

  • #130229
    damienl64
    Member

    Update : OK on Leopard 10.5.8 (second time)

    When trying to save presets have "bad save" displayed or two odd columns of dots on the screen or the mahcine momentary off

  • #130232
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    damienl64:

    When trying to save presets have "bad save" displayed

    This would suggest some kind of hardware problem. If it keeps on happening, contact support@eventide.com

  • #130234
    RaWi
    Member

    i would really like to know if the looper section is enhanced, there's nothing about it in the release notes. Does it work without glitches now ? Is it possible to use the looper and have delay on the sound like the DL4 ?

    thanks

  • #130236
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    No major looper changes this release – it will come later – no date yet.

  • #119106
    pgonzalez
    Member

    I've performed the update and the issue I'm having is that the 1:1 preset will not adjust any parameters.  The delay times will only show 0 and then 3000ms when I move the dial and no sound will adjust.  I have to turn off the unit a couple of times and then move to another preset and then back.  Any one else experience this "lock out"?

    Thanks!

    -Paul

  • #130238
    caveman
    Participant

    damienl64:

    Update : OK on Leopard 10.5.8 (second time)

    When trying to save presets have "bad save" displayed or two odd columns of dots on the screen or the mahcine momentary of

    I had this exact problem as well, on a tape delay setting.  After the update, my tape delay preset sounded real squirrely and was displaying odd values (wow in the hundreds  instead of something between 1-10?). I adjusted the values to sound good, hit save.. got the weird display of dots, the message "bad save" and the preset was lost and replaced with the factory preset at that location.

    To get around this issue, I had to power the pedal off, then back on, then created a new tape delay preset, then it saved fine..  I tried many other things, but this was the only sequence that worked.

    Kudos to eventide, the updated delays sound phenomenal.  It also seems the bypass dropout is gone, at least on the presets I have created.

  • #130240
    JNPMusic
    Member

    Be careful with 49:2 extremely loud as is 50:1

  • #130242
    damienl64
    Member

    same here. A good old fashion reboot and it now works. however it feels it is not as stable as the previous version. Some savings are not saved (eg tempo)

    Amazing presets, very responsive

    Another glitch: Anoalog delay

    Much better than previous one but bits 5 to 8 are useless as this result in sound off, it also appears than the very last repeats get too dirty and volume increase

  • #130243
    Aidanspaghetti
    Member

    Guys, just went to update my TF (XP)..

    When the updater software FINALLy found my TF it started to update…

    It went through the erase process then died at 8% in the writing process.

    I was told to restart my TF and try again but now my TF is blitzed ;( All lights come on and flash every 2 secs or so.. No writing… Have a bad feeling the OS has been wiped and only a small bit of it replaced by the write process?

    Anyone else have a similar problem? Im close to cryin guys!!

    Help me out here if possible please!!!

    Thanks,

    Aidan

  • #130245
    acapra
    Member

    is there some way to enable all 50 presets? i downloaded the beta and still only get the first 10 banks…

  • #119112
    comebacktomorrow
    Member

    I too am finding it impossible to update. I've tried both on my PC (Vista) and MAC (10.6) and both crash when attempting to download the 2.4 update. At first I thought it was because it was 10.6, but then .. well it could be vista too 😛

  • #130247
    comebacktomorrow
    Member

    Okay.. How I got around the problems on both PC and MAC (they both crashed) was I found the path of the file in the Windows error report then downloaded it, and then just did update from file.

    It's writing atm 🙂

  • #130248
    JNPMusic
    Member

    Did you go into the system mode and turn on the upper banks?

  • #119115
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    The update should take less than 5 minutes. I would suggest that you try it on a different computer.

  • #130250
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    acapra:

    is there some way to enable all 50 presets? i downloaded the beta and still only get the first 10 banks…

    Yes – its in the manual – UTILITY/BANKS.

    Or, better yet, re-initialize the unit (always recommended after an upgrade) – see "Restoring Factory System Settings" in the manual.

  • #130251
    achaput
    Moderator

    Aidanspaghetti:

    Guys, just went to update my TF (XP)..

    When the updater software FINALLy found my TF it started to update…

    It went through the erase process then died at 8% in the writing process.

    I was told to restart my TF and try again but now my TF is blitzed ;( All lights come on and flash every 2 secs or so.. No writing… Have a bad feeling the OS has been wiped and only a small bit of it replaced by the write process?

    Anyone else have a similar problem? Im close to cryin guys!!

    Help me out here if possible please!!!

    Thanks,

    Aidan

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    Hi Aidan,

    If you still can't get your TimeFactor going please contact support@eventide.com and they will assist you.

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  • #130252
    harrysnapperorgans
    Member

    I have one more issue to add to the list.

    In 1:1 and 1:2 I have a sublte 1/4 note and a less sublte .8  note Vintage Delay. When I switch from 1:1 to 1:2, there is a short but very obvious blast of static. It's loud enough to be heard over the guitar.

    In case in helps, I run it in front of the amp.

  • #119116
    JNPMusic
    Member

    Another heads up! I can't store the speed on ModDelay!

  • #119117
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    JNPMusic:

    Another heads up! I can't store the speed on ModDelay!

    Can you give more information ? Your meaning is unclear.

  • #130253
    JNPMusic
    Member

    What I should have said is when I make an adjustment to the speed knob in ModDelay and try to store it it doesn't save it! When I go to another preset and come back it's going back to the original setting!

  • #130254
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    OK – we'll look into it.

  • #130256
    cloudscapes
    Member

    any clues as to which looper changes there might be? I swear, if it's made true stereo, it would be the greatest ever. the realtime  loop-start and loop-length control is so great.

    ghood job on the update guys! vintage mode sounds super lush!

  • #130257
    jwebster
    Member

    I'm having the same problem with my Vista(Visual C++ error). I've tried multiple times without success.

    I have e-mailed Support, but can anyone else chime in?

  • #130258
    badmelonfarmer
    Participant

    no changes in the looper

  • #130259
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    jwebster:

    I'm having the same problem with my Vista(Visual C++ error). I've tried multiple times without success.

    I have e-mailed Support, but can anyone else chime in?

    Without further information, I can only suggest that you try with a different computer.

    It might be helpful if you described the error you are getting and when.

  • #119130
    thejay
    Member

    Awesome update!

  • #130271
    jwebster
    Member

    After I select the Update, it asks me to enter username and password. After I enter those, I "agree" to the Terms and Cond., then click "OK" for the Update desription. After I click the "OK" is when I get the error window. Today though, I click Ignore, and then it tells me that my username or password is no good?

  • #130274
    greatwolf
    Member

    I've successfully installed this. However, when I try to set both Low and High banks to 50, I can't change banks anymore and its just stuck at 50. I've initialized and cleared set-up to no avail. When I leave it at it's default setting of L:1 and H:50, it  works but I can't utilize the lower banks to store my own presets.

    Has anyone experienced this?

  • #130275
    greatwolf
    Member

    oops. double post

  • #130276
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    jwebster:

    After I click the "OK" is when I get the error window.

    At the risk of repetition, what does the error window say ? Kinda hard for me to guess.

    Please also see my recent post under "update utility problems"

  • #130280
    jwebster
    Member

    Finally got'r to update thanks to Support!! Can't wait to try out the new presets and set all new MIDI PC's for my rig!!

  • #130285
    stepad
    Member
    Good evening,

    I'm Stefano from Italy,Some minutes ago,for the first time, I wastrying to update TF software. The first attempt was not good, so theUtility told me to disconnet the device and triying again. So i did it, but the divice turned off and now it's not working. The unit is actually off, the display is off and it doesn't work..

    What can i do?

    Can You help me to fix this problem?

    Thanks,

    Stefano
  • #119156
    starfish
    Member

    Is something wrong with modulation in this new update?  I performed the update and it seems like the modulation doesn't work properly any more.  For instance, on these two presets there is a very noticeable rotating speaker and chorus type sound in previous software versions, but in the new version I can't hear the modulation at all:

    2:2 Bridge of Sighs [DigitalDelay]
    7:2 Every Lead You Fake [ModDelay]

    I have tried recreating the sound by tweaking the speed and depth but at best I can dial in a faint chorus type tone.  This issue doesn't seem to be limited to the presets.  I wrote down settings for a couple presets I had stored before updating, and I also dumped the presets.  If I tried to recreate the patches by manually entering the values or restoring from backup, the patch just doesn't get the rich modulation sound any more.

    Are these known issues?  The only report I have seen so far is regarding saving a modulation setting and not with the missing sound.

  • #119158
    starfish
    Member

    Is it necessary to perform a clear setup on boot going from 2.0.3 to 2.4.0?  The release notes only mention that a clear setup is necessary when reverting back to 2.0.3 but I don't know…  The modulation present in previous versions on the TF firmware is either missing or changed to make it much less rich on the chorus.  This is a pretty big deal and hopefully a known issue.

  • #130290
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    stepad:

    I'm Stefano from Italy

    Hi Stefano, please se my post under "update utility problems".

    http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/p/5737/24567.aspx#24567

    As long as your unit lights up the screen for one second following powerup, it is still possible to load the software. If it does not do this, contact support@eventide.com.

  • #119172
    Mr_Clean
    Member

    Hi, I have noticed a change to the modulation also….. Also the Vintage Delay now sounds awful ! Its seems to distort in an ugly way. Anyone else having this problem ? Previous to this update the Vintage Delay sounded great – in the vein of a Roland SDD3000, Korg Sdd 2000, 3000, but now the repeats are to obviously "treated" to sound naturally vintage. Are you guys (Eventide) chasing an analog repeat or a vintage digital delay sounding repeat ?? I would suggest go with the digital sounding repeat, as we can use the filter and bit reduction to make it more analog sounding if needed. cheers

  • #130295
    badmelonfarmer
    Participant

    hmmm, I guess this a subjective issue as most people I have seen commenting, in fact all comments have been VERY pleased with the new vintage delay sounds.

    they sound more authentic as far as the vintage tone, but this may not be for everyone.

    there are a lot of posts over on the "gear page" forums and we all are loving the vintage settings.

    I don't know, but it sounds like you prefer the more digital take on vintage delay rather than the darker sounds of real vintage delays, judging by the list of delays you mention.

    Cheers

    BMF

  • #130297
    StefanoD
    Member

    Hi, I want to update my Time Factor, but it's the first version (1.1), so can I update it with the latest version (2.4.0) ? Does the 1.1 version can send SysEx messages to the MIDIOX program ?

  • #130298
    EdDrake
    Participant

    I also think the modulation patches sound different but I can't put my finger on what it is and since I'm not going to reinstall the older software version I can't A/B them to compare so I'm relying on memory. I haven't had a lot of time lately to tweak the patches to see if I can get them to sound more like I remember.

    I like the new vintage delays but to be honest I didn't dislike the old ones and overall I like the new presets, some really good sounds in there.

    I know the Time Factor is a delay unit but it would be nice to get a really great chorus sound for those times when I need it. I have limited real estate on my pedal board and I don't use modulation sounds enough to justify buying a ModFactor for this reason. Back in the day I used rack mounted delay units for chorus and was always able to tweak them to get a decent chorus sound but I haven't been able to get the TF to do this so if it's possible I'd like the Mod Delay tweaked a bit more so it can get a good chorus.

    I don't know if this is possible but maybe Eventide could come out with a MultiFactor where it has some of the great delays, modulation and harmonized/pitch sounds available for those of us with limited pedal board room that want to have a lot of the common sounds available to use on gigs kinda like a "greatest hits" of the other Factors. I know it wouldn't be as deep as the individual factors but for it's purpose it wouldn't need to be. The hardest thing might be figuring out which of the sounds from the 3 Factors you would put on it.

  • #119187
    Andy S
    Member

    Eventide guys – I cant save the speed settings in mod delay and others.  Serious bug that makes this version not usable for a giging guitarist.

    Also – the modulation is not  sounding the same in general.  Not as rich/thick/warm sounding.  I could in 2.03 duplicate a retro  sonic analog chorus peda ( that emulated an old roland ce-1 )l to the point i sold it on ebay….  the new version sounds less rich. Could it be that the filter knob doesn't get deep or warm as in earlier software versions.

    I had a great analog chorus sound in 2.03 ( i started in bridge of sighs and tweaked ) cant get that sound now…

    I'm reverting back to the previous version until these bugs are fixed – I cant gig with this. 

    That being said the tape mode is LUSH AND SPECTACULAR !!   So i look forward to the issues being resolved and I'll give it a whirl when this update is final. 

    Thanks for listening

  • #119188
    comebacktomorrow
    Member

    On the whole, I'm absolutely stocked with this update. I'm not sure if it's able to do more things, but I'm hearing things I haven't heard it do before – phaseflange like effect, but I'm particually stoked with the vibrato. 

    And no, I may not be able to save presets correctly.. But I like where it's heading.

    Though, if there's one improvement I could ask for it would be for an auto volume function for the ducked delays. Maybe set it so that when it is 100% dry (so essentially bypass) it goes onto auto.

    Anyway, I look forward to what's next!

  • #119191
    dissever
    Member

    What does general improvements to system reponse mean? Has the gap when going from bypass/effect been improved? This is one of my biggest issues with the pedal.

  • #130316
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    You probably need to judge for yourself, but

    1) MF especially is noticeably snappier

    2) You may be referring to a bug where there was a glitch when coming out of DSP bypass – this is now fixed.

  • #130317
    dissever
    Member

    nice

  • #130335
    mudfly9
    Member

    I'll probably be told I've got my ears stuffed with cotton wool for this and too long standing in front of a loud amp stack  may have gotten the better of me, but I can't seem to hear what the saturation control on the tape delay is actually doing to the sound.

    The vintage delay is sounding really nice now as are the crazy oscillation noises and I'm definitely noticing a speedier response time when changing patches. Nice one Eventide!

  • #130353
    Trazan
    Member

    "…but I can't seem to hear what the saturation control on the tape delay is actually doing to the sound"

    No, not much saturation happening in mine either…..

  • #130354
    damienl64
    Member

    same here SAT does not affect the sound

  • #130368
    pdouds
    Member

    yup, you are right about the mod settings not being stored. I had a great sounding chorus set up, saved it, then went back to it later, and it was gone. bummer. I might go back to an older version until this bug gets fixed.

  • #130369
    JNPMusic
    Member

    Same here with the chorus. I had a great preset and was really excited about how it was sounding so I saved it but when I came back to that preset it didn't sound anything like what I programmed. Tried it several time and all had the same results….

  • #130412
    JazzTo
    Member

    I'm trying to update my Time factor but every time the Update utility tries to begin downloading the file it quits/crashes.
    I'm running a IMac with system 10.5.8
    Any ideas? Anyone have a link to a direct download of the update?

  • #130413
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    Please see my post under "update utility problems".

    If that does not help, contact support@eventide.com

  • #130415
    joeyray
    Member

    My update experience not good.

    I did the update and it crashed at 62%

    I got a failure message and it told me to reboot and try again.

    So I did and then it couldn't find the TF.

    So I downloaded the latest update utility program and installed it.

    From the read me text I learned this:

    "Power the device off, then hold down the center foot pedal while you turn the power on. Hold the center foot pedal down until the display shows UPDATE. Release the center foot pedal. The device is ready to be updated."

    Now I have my TF in update mode manually

    Making sure TF is on first I then start the update utiliy

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    This time it finds the TF

    Download went smooth and so did the update.

    No Problems.

    I started playing with the new presets

    I started at about 16.1

    I already new what the old presets sounded like

    Impressed with the news sounds I ventured to the end.

    I started over with 1.1 and started listening to the old prestes to see if there was any difference.

    Well, some of them don't work at all

    Some of them, the ones with band delay, just whistle

    5.2 chorus doesn't work at all.

    If you want a detailed list I'll go through them all again.

    In my opinion this program has some serious issues.

    But I'm going to do the update again just to see what happens.

    I'll be Back.

    I'm here to help if I can.

    JOey Ray

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  • #130430
    joeyray
    Member

    I did the 2nd update and still no change.

    Some presets not working others whistling.

    The cure!

    First I tried the Clear Function (Hold Encoder Knob and Right Switch down while powering up)

    Still no Change.

    So I then Initialized the TF ( Holding Encoder Knob and Middle Foot Switch while powering up)

    Now all the presets seem to work and the whistling stopped.

    42.1 and 42.2 sound noisy but, maybe that's what you were going for.

    At this point I think I could gig with this delay pedal.

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    I believe I do hear some of the other things I've heard others commenting on like the bridge of sighs and Saturation knob.

    I think I will go for a third update install making sure the unit has been Initialized, cleared.

    I might go back to the previous update first and then back so I can really A/B them.

    Damn I need two of these things.

    Apologies to Eventide if needed. Seems that the update isn't as buggy as first believed.

    I'll be Back

    Joey Ray

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  • #130432
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    Glad that things are looking up !!

    In general we recommend that you clear setup or initialize after an update, although people are reluctant to do this…

    In this case, there are a number of changes to the algorithms which mean that any saved user presets will act differently (maybe whistle and hum). Factory presets have been retuned.

  • #130447
    joeyray
    Member

    I been sitting here for the last couple of days going back and forth on the software versions.

    First off the version 2.0.3 [3]

    Particulary preset 2.2 sounds much fuller than the new updated version.

    Reason:

    Some of the user settings have been changed.

    You can find the original settings here:

    http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Files/Audio%20Support/TimeFactor/Everyone/TFPresets.ashx

    You may noticed and I heard others complain that it wasn't saving the settings correctly.

    What I discovered was actually it was saving the settings correctly but the readout on the speed knob was incorrect.

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    With catchup on when I turn the speed knob the arrow points to the right but shows the value of 1.00Hz wich would be to the left.

    When I turn the knob to the right however when it reaches the saved value of 4.98Hz the arrow goes away and I'm able to change the value again proving the saved value of 4.98Hz was indeed saved although the display showed the value of 1.00Hz to be the saved value.

    The settings were saved correctly however.

    I also noticed that preset 8.2 has been changed too.

    Probably more are changed also I haven't checked all of them yet.

    I suspect that 5.2 has also been modified.

    The speed knob is the culprit on 5.2 also

    incorrect readings but saved values are intact.

    Now Version 2.4.0[1]

    Tape mode definitely sounds better richer and fuller.

    The new presets are pretty cool.

    It's going to take a lot of TIME to check them out.

    Some new documentation on all the software versions would be nice.

    You know like you have on the first version.

    The speed knob is showing incorrect settings on some presets

    specifically 5.2 check it out

    with catchup on

    see if it  it has a 0.xx value but has a right arrow

    mine does

    oh well

    too much for one day

    break time

    I'll be back

    In conclusion:

    The old standby presets we have come to trust and love have been changed in the new Beta Software.

    Switch them back if you perfer using the chart or your back up system.

    Don't trust the readings on the readout.

    There seems to be some bugs in that area.

    Regards

    Joey Ray

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  • #130481
    oakst8
    Member

    I think I'm just echoing some of what's been said above, but updaters should beware that some funny stuff goes down with the mod settings. I was able to run the update with no problems, but when I reinstalled some of my personal presets, several sounded funny. The settings for the top row knobs were fine, but the bottom row needed some tweaking. Fortunately I had written down the specs for all of my old settings, so some quick adjustments fixed things.

    So, the lesson is, write down your settings before running the update.

  • #130484
    archaos
    Member

    Surprise Thanx for the tip, Man !

  • #130490
    joeyray
    Member

    Click Here to Print Eventide's Template For Writing Down Preset Values. Open with Windows Wordpad And Print

    Hey, here's the template Eventide uses to show you their presets values.

    Just open it with Windows Wordpad and print.

    Some of you will find this useful I hope.

    Joey Ray

  • #130493
    archaos
    Member

    Very cool, thanx a lot ! Cool

  • #119379
    pdouds
    Member

    i went back to 2.03 until they get the modulation thing fixed. the chorus setting were great, too bad i couldn;t save any of them. )-:

  • #130498
    pdouds
    Member

    are you mod settings being stored? i have programmed a really nice chorus setting and stored it, only to go back, and it's gone. I have posted on this before, just curious if you are having any luck with it, or everyone is having the same problem.

  • #130499
    JNPMusic
    Member

    It seems to be a problem with the beta update! Everyone is saying the same thing….. I hope we see some type of fix soon….. I too had a great chorus setting only to have the same results you did after storing it…..

  • #130509
    cacibi
    Member

    I tell you what, right now it feels like I've got a $400 piece of gear I'm hanging onto for future use.  And that's not a good feeling.  I don't want to spend time building presets right now because I would rather build them around the updated software, especially if the tape sounds are improved – but the beta has obviously got some issues..so, I'm in limbo.  I find myself spending my limbo time looking at other delay units 🙂

    I think the TF has a lot of promise…I just hope it is delivered someday.

    Oh…and just in case it needed to be said again…..PRESET NAMING!!!!

    Waiting patiently….but not THAT patiently.

  • #130511
    tropics
    Member

    Hi,

    I tried to update before putting the pedal into update mode and the software utility crashed.  Now when i try to update it in Update mode, the Utility does not recognize the firmware and it crashes when the download is supposed to begin.  However, If it is not in update mode, it recognizes the firmware but it still crashes during update mode.  Can a direct file be sent to me with directions on how to update manually?

    I have tried on a mac and a PC and they both crash each time.  

    thanks

  • #130515
    damienl64
    Member

    Naming presets is not so important and does not really add value

    Sound quality and bugs ar emore important!!!

    Cheers

  • #130518
    achaput
    Moderator

    tropics:

    Hi,

    I tried to update before putting the pedal into update mode and the software utility crashed.  Now when i try to update it in Update mode, the Utility does not recognize the firmware and it crashes when the download is supposed to begin.  However, If it is not in update mode, it recognizes the firmware but it still crashes during update mode.  Can a direct file be sent to me with directions on how to update manually?

    I have tried on a mac and a PC and they both crash each time.  

    thanks

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    To further assist  you with problems updating, please email support@eventide.com with the following information:

    -Serial Number

     

    -Username

     

    -runtime.log. This is found in:

     

    XP: C:Documents and Settings[logged in user].eventideupdateutilityruntime.log

     

    OS X: /Users/[logged in user]/.eventideupdateutility/runtime.log

     

    -Steps to recreate

     

    -Version of bam on device prior to update (reported by EUU)

     

    -Version of software reported by the pedal via System Mode->Utility->SW VER

     

    -Bam file(s) that were used during update

     

    -Computer type

     

    -Operating system (name and version)

     

    -Type of microprocessor on the computer

     

    -Mac: G3/4/5, or which type of Intel processor

     

    -PC: processor type

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  • #130530
    cacibi
    Member

    Sorry but – if you've got a unit that can store up to 100 presets, and one of its selling points is that it can be used in the studio, as well as on a pedalboard (line level, stereo outs) then yes….naming presets becomes pretty important.

  • #130533
    badmelonfarmer
    Participant

    TOTALLY agree!

    there are soooo many posts asking for namimg on every forum I visist.

    Looks like Eventide are on the case, thankfully.

    Cheers

    BMF

  • #130534
    brownbathrobe
    Member

    I think the point being made here is that, while preset names would
    be an excellent addition, Eventide clearly has bigger and more
    pressing issues to deal with, such as the consistency and integrity of the preset sounds themselves…

  • #130535
    damienl64
    Member

    Exactly, I'd love to get the names but in the first time it is important to get the sounds right!!!

  • #130536
    cacibi
    Member

    Yes and I think the counterpoint being made here is that basic usability, at least for some, is equally important.  Of course it's ultimately an audio device – but it has to be functional in the practical situations it was built for, I don't think preset naming is a lower priority just because it's not directly related to the audio output of the device.  The sound might be great – but if I can't find them, it doesn't do me a whole lot of good.  

    And honestly – I'm not sure people would be so hung up on it, if that rather large LED readout wasn't constantly crying out at you every time you look down at the pedal saying, "I wish I could tell you what sound I am, but you'll just have to remember what 5:2 does!  Or is it 5:3 that does that?!"

  • #130537
    brownbathrobe
    Member

    At the risk of sounding pedantic…

    This thread is chock full of posts from people whose units have crashed while updated,
    who can't seem to save rates along with their presets and who are
    frustrated by a MIDI sync function that doesn't actually stay in sync. You are proposing that Eventide implement a new feature which would undoubtedly make the unit more user-friendly whereas I am suggesting that they first repair the functions which do not work (or have stopped working) as advertised.

    Dave

  • #119798
    levasseur
    Member

    Where can I find detailed settings for the new presets? I have erased by mistake the "lazyphasy" and would like to recreate it without having to reload the whole update… Also on a more general level, it would be useful to know the settings of all presets, much like it was presented on the short list w list with the original software…

  • #119800
    nickrose
    Moderator
    Eventide Staff

    Many people have asked for a list of settings for the new presets – we'll have one available in a week or two ..

  • #130966
    siriusbliss
    Member

    excellent!

    Thanks!

    Greg

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