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    • #115437
      cliveluis
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        I was trying to copying H9 ultratap presets to IOS AUv3 ( i believe preset sharing is desktop and IOS only)

        However I found an extra Width knob on IOS version

         

        What is the “neutral/fixed” postion of Width postion on H9? is it 12 Clock?

      • #152388
        tlongabaugh
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff

          Hey-

          The "neutral" position of the Width knob is fully clockwise (value of 100). This corresponds to the behavior on the H9, where the Taps alternate being panned hard left/right (provided you are using stereo out).

          Btw, you shouldn't need to do any additional editing of the preset files, when going between H9 and AUv3/Desktop. Presets saved on H9 will load in the AUv3/Desktop plugin with a Width of 100.

          -Tom

        • #152391
          cliveluis
          Participant

            Really.. I tried saving single preset from h9 in IOS files app .. did not work for me

          • #152392
            tlongabaugh
            Moderator
            Eventide Staff

              Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

              As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

              • #152393
                cliveluis
                Participant
                  tlongabaugh wrote:

                  Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don’t need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

                  As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You’ll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the “UltraTap” folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

                   

                  Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

                   

                  See steps

                  I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

                  saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

                  Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

                  I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

                  Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

                   

                • #152400
                  tlongabaugh
                  Moderator
                  Eventide Staff
                    cliveluis wrote:

                    tlongabaugh wrote:

                    Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

                    As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

                    Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

                     

                    See steps

                    I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

                    saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

                    Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

                    I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

                    Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

                    Ah, I think I know what's happening here – the presets need to be placed in On My iPhone -> Blackhole.

                    The iOS Files App hides empty folders by default. When Blackhole is installed it creates a folder On My iPhone -> Blackhole, but this is automaticaly hidden in the Files App, because it is empty. To circumvent this, for the moment you'll need to save a User Preset from the Blackhole app (Standalone version, not AUv3). That will cause the On My iPhone -> Blackhole folder to show up – once it does, place your H9 presets there. Then, relaunch Blackhole Standalone, and your presets should appear.

                    We will look into a way to force the folder appear without saving a User Preset first.

                    Let me know if you still have problems, or I've misinterpreted your issue.

                    -Tom

                  • #152401
                    cliveluis
                    Participant
                      tlongabaugh wrote:
                      cliveluis wrote:

                      tlongabaugh wrote:

                      Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

                      As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

                      Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

                       

                      See steps

                      I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

                      saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

                      Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

                      I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

                      Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

                      Ah, I think I know what's happening here – the presets need to be placed in On My iPhone -> Blackhole.

                      The iOS Files App hides empty folders by default. When Blackhole is installed it creates a folder On My iPhone -> Blackhole, but this is automaticaly hidden in the Files App, because it is empty. To circumvent this, for the moment you'll need to save a User Preset from the Blackhole app (Standalone version, not AUv3). That will cause the On My iPhone -> Blackhole folder to show up – once it does, place your H9 presets there. Then, relaunch Blackhole Standalone, and your presets should appear.

                      We will look into a way to force the folder appear without saving a User Preset first.

                      Let me know if you still have problems, or I've misinterpreted your issue.

                      -Tom

                      I had no such issue about folder being hidden .. I could see it

                      I was probably expecting a user presets folder

                      Tried your workaround but the preset I imported does not show up

                  • #152402
                    cliveluis
                    Participant

                      Hi

                      I could not send screenshots .. sent by email

                    • #152403
                      tlongabaugh
                      Moderator
                      Eventide Staff

                        Thanks – got the screenshots. Can you attach the preset you are trying to import, or send it over email?

                      • #152404
                        cliveluis
                        Participant
                          cliveluis wrote:

                          I was trying to copying H9 ultratap presets to IOS AUv3 ( i believe preset sharing is desktop and IOS only)

                          However I found an extra Width knob on IOS version

                           

                          What is the “neutral/fixed” postion of Width postion on H9? is it 12 Clock?

                        • #152405
                          tlongabaugh
                          Moderator
                          Eventide Staff

                            My apologies – I just spoke to my colleague who works on H9 Control about this, and figured out what is going on:

                            -The Blackhole App reads .tide presets only.

                            -H9 Control was updated a while back to export single presets as .tide files instead of .h9z files, but it looks like this change only made it into the desktop version. Since you're exporting on the iOS version, the extension is still .h9z, and thus the Blackhole app isn't reading it.

                            As a workaround, please save any presets you'd like to import into the Blackhole app using the desktop version of H9 control. I've attached the LAMBOFGOD preset as a .tide file, please let me know if you can import it correctly.

                            We will release a fix for H9 Control soon. Sorry for the hassle.

                            • #152800
                              cliveluis
                              Participant

                                Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

                            • #152407
                              cliveluis
                              Participant

                                Strange ways of IOS
                                I could not open/download this on phone .. it was opening a bunch numbers

                                However from laptop I could download and emailed it back to me on my phone …and voila it’s working via files app transfer

                              • #152439

                                Would it ever be possible/likely to update H9 Control app to export presets/lists/backups to iOS Files, Dropbox, etc?  And/or, export in such a way to streamlining sharing between the Control app and AUv3 apps?  Then could one almost use the AUv3 apps to tweak H9 presets with a pre-recorded track while away from the H9?

                              • #152447
                                bohan
                                Moderator
                                Eventide Staff
                                  Wallower wrote:

                                  Would it ever be possible/likely to update H9 Control app to export presets/lists/backups to iOS Files, Dropbox, etc? And/or, export in such a way to streamlining sharing between the Control app and AUv3 apps?

                                  Currently, you can export presets/lists by emailing them in H9 Control. It would be great if users can export to the Files app and import from there though. We will look into that.

                                • #152803
                                  bohan
                                  Moderator
                                  Eventide Staff
                                    cliveluis wrote:

                                    Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

                                    You would need to export the .tide presets into the Blackhole folder in the Files app

                                  • #152821
                                    bohan
                                    Moderator
                                    Eventide Staff
                                      cliveluis wrote:

                                      Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

                                      I just shared one of my Blackhole presets from H9 Control to the Blackhole folder in the Files app. And when I opened the Blackhole app I saw my preset there. Did you close and reopen your Blackhole app?

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