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    • #115437
      cliveluis
      Participant

      I was trying to copying H9 ultratap presets to IOS AUv3 ( i believe preset sharing is desktop and IOS only)

      However I found an extra Width knob on IOS version

       

      What is the “neutral/fixed” postion of Width postion on H9? is it 12 Clock?

    • #152388
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Hey-

      The "neutral" position of the Width knob is fully clockwise (value of 100). This corresponds to the behavior on the H9, where the Taps alternate being panned hard left/right (provided you are using stereo out).

      Btw, you shouldn't need to do any additional editing of the preset files, when going between H9 and AUv3/Desktop. Presets saved on H9 will load in the AUv3/Desktop plugin with a Width of 100.

      -Tom

    • #152391
      cliveluis
      Participant

      Really.. I tried saving single preset from h9 in IOS files app .. did not work for me

    • #152392
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

      As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

      • #152393
        cliveluis
        Participant
        tlongabaugh wrote:

        Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don’t need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

        As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You’ll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the “UltraTap” folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

         

        Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

         

        See steps

        I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

        saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

        Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

        I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

        Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

         

      • #152400
        tlongabaugh
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff
        cliveluis wrote:

        tlongabaugh wrote:

        Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

        As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

        Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

         

        See steps

        I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

        saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

        Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

        I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

        Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

        Ah, I think I know what's happening here – the presets need to be placed in On My iPhone -> Blackhole.

        The iOS Files App hides empty folders by default. When Blackhole is installed it creates a folder On My iPhone -> Blackhole, but this is automaticaly hidden in the Files App, because it is empty. To circumvent this, for the moment you'll need to save a User Preset from the Blackhole app (Standalone version, not AUv3). That will cause the On My iPhone -> Blackhole folder to show up – once it does, place your H9 presets there. Then, relaunch Blackhole Standalone, and your presets should appear.

        We will look into a way to force the folder appear without saving a User Preset first.

        Let me know if you still have problems, or I've misinterpreted your issue.

        -Tom

      • #152401
        cliveluis
        Participant
        tlongabaugh wrote:
        cliveluis wrote:

        tlongabaugh wrote:

        Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I meant is that you don't need to do any editing of the preset files when going between the two – Width will take care of itself.

        As far as exporting: Presets saved in H9 Control will not automatically appear in the iOS Files App. You'll have to export them as you normally do from within the H9 Control app. When you later import them into the Files app and place them in the "UltraTap" folder, they will appear in the UltraTap iOS app.

        Iam aware of files app transfer, but did not show up

         

        See steps

        I emailed A preset to myself from H9 control

        saved preset to files app ( location : on my iphone)

        Opened blackhole app. It Did not show up in user presets ( in which folder is it supposed to show up)?

        I purchased both blackhole and Ultratap

        Device used for testing Iphone 8 plus

        Ah, I think I know what's happening here – the presets need to be placed in On My iPhone -> Blackhole.

        The iOS Files App hides empty folders by default. When Blackhole is installed it creates a folder On My iPhone -> Blackhole, but this is automaticaly hidden in the Files App, because it is empty. To circumvent this, for the moment you'll need to save a User Preset from the Blackhole app (Standalone version, not AUv3). That will cause the On My iPhone -> Blackhole folder to show up – once it does, place your H9 presets there. Then, relaunch Blackhole Standalone, and your presets should appear.

        We will look into a way to force the folder appear without saving a User Preset first.

        Let me know if you still have problems, or I've misinterpreted your issue.

        -Tom

        I had no such issue about folder being hidden .. I could see it

        I was probably expecting a user presets folder

        Tried your workaround but the preset I imported does not show up

    • #152402
      cliveluis
      Participant

      Hi

      I could not send screenshots .. sent by email

    • #152403
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      Thanks – got the screenshots. Can you attach the preset you are trying to import, or send it over email?

    • #152404
      cliveluis
      Participant
      cliveluis wrote:

      I was trying to copying H9 ultratap presets to IOS AUv3 ( i believe preset sharing is desktop and IOS only)

      However I found an extra Width knob on IOS version

       

      What is the “neutral/fixed” postion of Width postion on H9? is it 12 Clock?

    • #152405
      tlongabaugh
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff

      My apologies – I just spoke to my colleague who works on H9 Control about this, and figured out what is going on:

      -The Blackhole App reads .tide presets only.

      -H9 Control was updated a while back to export single presets as .tide files instead of .h9z files, but it looks like this change only made it into the desktop version. Since you're exporting on the iOS version, the extension is still .h9z, and thus the Blackhole app isn't reading it.

      As a workaround, please save any presets you'd like to import into the Blackhole app using the desktop version of H9 control. I've attached the LAMBOFGOD preset as a .tide file, please let me know if you can import it correctly.

      We will release a fix for H9 Control soon. Sorry for the hassle.

      • #152800
        cliveluis
        Participant

        Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

    • #152407
      cliveluis
      Participant

      Strange ways of IOS
      I could not open/download this on phone .. it was opening a bunch numbers

      However from laptop I could download and emailed it back to me on my phone …and voila it’s working via files app transfer

    • #152439
      Wallower
      Member

      Would it ever be possible/likely to update H9 Control app to export presets/lists/backups to iOS Files, Dropbox, etc?  And/or, export in such a way to streamlining sharing between the Control app and AUv3 apps?  Then could one almost use the AUv3 apps to tweak H9 presets with a pre-recorded track while away from the H9?

    • #152447
      bohan
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff
      Wallower wrote:

      Would it ever be possible/likely to update H9 Control app to export presets/lists/backups to iOS Files, Dropbox, etc? And/or, export in such a way to streamlining sharing between the Control app and AUv3 apps?

      Currently, you can export presets/lists by emailing them in H9 Control. It would be great if users can export to the Files app and import from there though. We will look into that.

    • #152803
      bohan
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff
      cliveluis wrote:

      Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

      You would need to export the .tide presets into the Blackhole folder in the Files app

    • #152821
      bohan
      Moderator
      Eventide Staff
      cliveluis wrote:

      Please note after latest update this feature is still not functional ! H9 control exports presets as . Tide .. into files app .. but they do not show up under user presets

      I just shared one of my Blackhole presets from H9 Control to the Blackhole folder in the Files app. And when I opened the Blackhole app I saw my preset there. Did you close and reopen your Blackhole app?

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