Use external MIDI device to scroll through H9 presets and auto-load?

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- September 24, 2017 at 12:36 pm #114377
  
  wilkinsi
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  I have a Line 6 Helix, which I use as a MIDI controller for switching presets on my external pedals. Which CC numbers do I need to switch up and down presets on the H9? I want the H9 to auto-load the preset when I scroll to it rather than blink and wait for me to press the active footswitch. Is this possible?
- September 25, 2017 at 4:49 am #147220
  
  camn
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  yes of course.
  You decide which CC you want. You set it up in the H9 control
  You can also use PC to call certain presets directly. Also setup in H9 control.
  The helix should do all that easily… be warned though.. there have been some troubles using the helix for the ‘performance switch’. Use an aux switch for that of you can/care/want
  - September 25, 2017 at 5:45 pm #147222
    
    wilkinsi
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    camn wrote:
    yes of course.
    You decide which CC you want. You set it up in the H9 control
    You can also use PC to call certain presets directly. Also setup in H9 control.
    The helix should do all that easily… be warned though.. there have been some troubles using the helix for the ‘performance switch’. Use an aux switch for that of you can/care/want
    Please can you give me a working example? I assume you mean the MIDI side of Helix is bugged and that I’m better off using the AUX jack instead?
  - September 25, 2017 at 9:49 pm #147234
    
    gkellum
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    wilkinsi wrote:
    Please can you give me a working example? I assume you mean the MIDI side of Helix is bugged and that I'm better off using the AUX jack instead?
    In H9 Control click on the Pedal button in the bottom menubar, go to MIDI Settings, and then go to 'Assign MIDI CC Messages to pedal functions'. You'll want to assign the pedal functions 'Increment and load preset' and 'Decrement and load preset' to whatever MIDI CC messages the Helix is sending out.
- September 26, 2017 at 10:38 am #147243
  
  wilkinsi
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  Thanks. I will try this ASAP.
- September 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm #147264
  
  wilkinsi
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  Great, it works…. only if I disconnect USB. Page 27 of the users manual states MIDI is ignored when USB is connected. I can’t get connected via Bluetooth. What we need is an update that allows the MIDI I.O to work even when USB is connected. I want to have my cake and eat it!
  - September 28, 2017 at 1:42 am #147268
    
    nickrose
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    wilkinsi wrote:
    Great, it works…. only if I disconnect USB. Page 27 of the users manual states MIDI is ignored when USB is connected. I can't get connected via Bluetooth. What we need is an update that allows the MIDI I.O to work even when USB is connected. I want to have my cake and eat it!
    We all want more cake, but in this case it is not possible. When the product was designed, we gave it the usb for updating only. It is the purest coincidence that it is MIDI, rather than some proprietary format.
  - December 10, 2017 at 3:20 pm #147843
    
    glorioso
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    wilkinsi wrote:
    Great, it works…. only if I disconnect USB. Page 27 of the users manual states MIDI is ignored when USB is connected. I can’t get connected via Bluetooth. What we need is an update that allows the MIDI I.O to work even when USB is connected. I want to have my cake and eat it!
    New to this here. What did you set the increment and decrement to? I keep watching that video and the guy never tells you where in the H9 Control you set up the Mix, he just says he does it. I want to control the H9 with the expression pedal via Helix and assign H9 presets to Helix presets. Still can’t find clear instructions to do so.
  - December 10, 2017 at 3:25 pm #147844
    
    glorioso
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    wilkinsi wrote:
    Great, it works…. only if I disconnect USB. Page 27 of the users manual states MIDI is ignored when USB is connected. I can’t get connected via Bluetooth. What we need is an update that allows the MIDI I.O to work even when USB is connected. I want to have my cake and eat it!
    What should these settings be?
- October 1, 2017 at 2:30 am #147302
  
  wilkinsi
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  I got the Bluetooth to work. I made the mistake of using the Macbook’s system preferences instead of just opening the H9 Control app, choosing manually connect and double clicking the H9. Now I have everything working – Bluetooth and MIDI. Hell, my Macbook even says my mobile phone isn’t connected, yet it will send a file and the phone will receive it. So, why is my Macbook contradicting itself?
- October 1, 2017 at 2:31 am #147303
  
  wilkinsi
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  Hey, where’s my cake?!
- October 2, 2017 at 9:07 pm #147312
  
  wilkinsi
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  Never mind, my local music store celebrated its 1 year anniversary today and…. I got a free cake!
- December 10, 2017 at 11:05 pm #147851
  
  wilkinsi
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  I already came up with a workaround, but forgot to report back. In H9 Control, use the “Connect MIDI Device to Eventide Stompbox” to choose Helix as the MIDI source. Unfrtunately, this only works for one H9 at a time. If I connect two H9’s via USB and use the above setting, any MIDI commands sent by Helix are ignored by both H9’s.
  So for now, I use Bluetooth for one H9 and USB for the other. If I want to add a third H9, I won’t be able to use MIDI whilst connected with H9 Control.
  - December 12, 2017 at 4:33 am #147859
    
    glorioso
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    wilkinsi wrote:
    I already came up with a workaround, but forgot to report back. In H9 Control, use the “Connect MIDI Device to Eventide Stompbox” to choose Helix as the MIDI source. Unfrtunately, this only works for one H9 at a time. If I connect two H9’s via USB and use the above setting, any MIDI commands sent by Helix are ignored by both H9’s.
    So for now, I use Bluetooth for one H9 and USB for the other. If I want to add a third H9, I won’t be able to use MIDI whilst connected with H9 Control.
    There is no such option in H9 control “connect MIDI device to eventide stompbox”
  - December 12, 2017 at 12:54 pm #147861
    
    gkellum
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    glorioso wrote:
    There is no such option in H9 control "connect MIDI device to eventide stompbox"
    Yes, there is. It's under settings.
  - December 12, 2017 at 2:59 pm #147862
    
    glorioso
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    gkellum wrote:
    glorioso wrote:
    There is no such option in H9 control "connect MIDI device to eventide stompbox"
    Thank you. Found it
    Yes, there is. It's under settings.
  - December 14, 2017 at 4:16 am #147882
    
    glorioso
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    glorioso wrote:
    wilkinsi wrote:
    I already came up with a workaround, but forgot to report back. In H9 Control, use the “Connect MIDI Device to Eventide Stompbox” to choose Helix as the MIDI source. Unfrtunately, this only works for one H9 at a time. If I connect two H9’s via USB and use the above setting, any MIDI commands sent by Helix are ignored by both H9’s.
    So for now, I use Bluetooth for one H9 and USB for the other. If I want to add a third H9, I won’t be able to use MIDI whilst connected with H9 Control.
    There is no such option in H9 control “connect MIDI device to eventide stompbox”
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