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Yes, levels are clean and loud.  If I go back and forth between the 4000 and the elipse, the levels are identical, but the eclipse has more artifacts.  It's not pops and cracks type of artifacts, but pitch artifacts (I'm using it for voice). .   Should the eclipse be just as clean as the DSP?  or is the ultra hamonizer dsp 4000b a better pitch unit?    Really boggling.

thanks for the replies and help