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      I'm really having a difficult time with my Eclipse and noise. I've experimuented with a number of scenerios to sort through the possible problems. To best explain my experiences, I'll list what I have done and the outcomes:

      1. Mesa 5:25 "Send" > (1/4" TS unbalanced) > Eclipse > (1/4" TS unbalanced) > Mesa 5:25 "Return" — very noisy, inordinate amount

      2. Mesa 5:25 "Send" > (1/4" TS unbalanced) > Eclipse > (2 x 1/4" TS unbalanced) > Mesa 20/20 power amp — very noisy, inordinate amount

      3. Mesa 5:25 "Send" > (1/4" TS unbalanced) > Eclipse > (2 x 1/4" TRS balanced) > ART SLA-2 power amp — dead silent

      4. Mesa 5:25 "Send" > (1/4" unbalanced) > Eclipse > (2 x 1/4" TS unbalanced) > ART SLA-2 power amp — dead silent

      5. Line 6 PODxt > (2 x 1/4" TS unbalanced) > Mesa 20/20 — quiet

      6. Line 6 PODxt > (2 x 1/4" TRS balanced) > Eclipse > (2 x 1/4" TS unbalanced) > Mesa 20/20 — noisy

      I'm baffled, there is no consistency here. I did various ground-lifts as well. No changes.


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      Hi Jam

      when the signal fed to Eclipse is a line level 0db/+4dB one, either balanced or unbalanced, you have to use the XLRs ins and outs, keeping the Eventide cable ends (XLRs) wired as balanced and unbalance the cable ends (1/4" TS) on the guitar gear side.

      An instrument level signal (-10/-20 dB) calls for using the Eclipse 1/4" jacks ins and outs.

      I'm pretty sure all Mesa gear uses +4dB line level signals. Not sure about Line 6. Check the documentation.

      To unbalance the 1/4" please refer to the Eclpse manual nd/or to the available technotes in the Knowledge base area on the Eventide website.

      Consider also the following:

      -using the correct connectors and proper wiring ensures the best signal to noise ratio and minimizes noise.

      -noise in a guitar system are usually owed to 3 different causes, ground loops in the mains, in the audio wiring and in the physical chassis/enclosures of the units sharing a metal rack rails placement.

      -to get rid of noise you may need to follow other tests/guidelines regarding these different types og ground loops or have a qualified technician looking into the problem for you.

      Sometimes getting rid of noise is really a painful process, going thru many different attempts (trial & error) to remove different ground loops between 2 machines, than add a third one if existing and starting all over again.

      all the best


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