H9 Wish List

[gkellum]

I wanted to restart the 'H9 Wish List' thread with the original post from coirbidh_99.  Now that the H9 is out and some of you have one, what would you like to see next for it in terms of algorithms or features?  Some people have been asking for Android support for instance.  The original post from coirbidh_99 follows below.

[gkellum]

coirbidh_99 

Now that we've seen the basic specs of the H9, let's talk about what we might like to see emerging from Eventide to expand it after release.  Given that the existing Factor pedal algorithms will all (yes?) be available for download, what else would you like to see coming to the H9?

Some initial thoughts on my end:

-More/expanded looping algorithms.  I've said it before, but it bears repeating: the TimeFactor looping algorithm is already one of the best feature sets available in a pedal looper.  Having said that, I think there are things that would improve it: Reverse loop.  More looping time.  A Multiply feature, so that short initial loops can be overdubbed with longer phrases.  Undo/redo.  REVERSE.  Implementing these features, given the H9's form factor and interface design, would probably require MIDI controls, but I think that's OK: one of the beauties of the H9 model is that players who aren't interested in the algorithm or don't have the right extra gear to use it can simply pass on buying it.

There are also other looping implementations that could work with the existing controls that would provide very interesting results.  Take a look at the Hexe Revolver demo videos and imagine an algorithm for the H9 that could implement those controls.

-Expanded real-time interface.  I understand why you'd lead with an iOS interface that mimics the Factor pedals: it's familiar to players, it puts everything up-front for easy manipulation, and it's easy to write.  But why stop there?  One of the great things about having an app is that you can deploy multiple interfaces at the user's discretion.  What about expanding the ribbon control into an X/Y pad that would permit Kaoss Pad-style manipulation of two parameters simultaneously?  Maybe a sketching surface to draw modulation waveforms?  Or a soft version of the new EHX 8 Step Process to allow a preset to sequence expression pedal values using onscreen faders?  We're already outside the pedal box – let's think while we're out there!

[Don Grosh]

I've been using the H9 for the last two weeks, very cool pedal!! My only complaint is I wish it would have the option on the mix knob to be pre effect instead of post effect. This way when using an expression pedal the delays and reverbs trails would not be cut off when backing off the mix. -Don http://www.groshguitars.com

[Don Grosh]

I've been using the H9 for the last two weeks, very cool pedal!! My only complaint is I wish it would have the option on the mix knob to be pre effect instead of post effect. This way when using an expression pedal the delays and reverbs trails would not be cut off when backing off the mix. -Don http://www.groshguitars.com 

[mjtripper]

I don't know if it's possible with the current model but running two fx in parallel has been on my wish list in a pedal for a long time. Say take the h9 and run a delay and reverb in parallel. I'd even pony up for a more expensive model with 2x the power, say a h18, that could run two full fx in series or in parallel but have the series/parallel be a preset selection.

Another item I'd like to see is a studio style compressor. selectable between single and multiband with parallel blend options.

[badmelonfarmer]

Bundle pricing for algorithms would be cool, say you wanted all the TimeFactor algorithms or artist bundle promos …say get Vernon Reid bundle of his favourite algorithms as a promo.

[cgclepper]

I've filed a couple of requests with support (thanks Jerome!) but here are a few things for the iOS app:

1) Manual entry of Tempo.  The tap doesn't work so well for me on the iDevice.

2) On the iPhone, disable grab and drag (or whatever the Apple name is) and only switch between the pages using the little arrows.

3) Larger bounds for the knob controls on the iPhone to make it easier to grab the control.  Or double tap to lock in just that knob for adjustment.

The latter two are probably only iPhone issues, but as good as the H9 is, I'm not buying an iPad just for that!

For algorithms, I would like to see some Plex based ones.  Maybe just the high level controls for the multiple delay/pitch lines like the Eclipse.

Finally, let me design my own algos with an updated iOS version of vSig (I will buy an iPad for that)!  The DSP in the pedal is more powerful than the DSP7000, so it would be nice to have access a bit more of its power.

Thanks for being open to suggetiosn

[badmelonfarmer]

cgclepper:

For algorithms, I would like to see some Plex based ones.  Maybe just the high level controls for the multiple delay/pitch lines like the Eclipse.

Finally, let me design my own algos with an updated iOS version of vSig (I will buy an iPad for that)!  The DSP in the pedal is more powerful than the DSP7000, so it would be nice to have access a bit more of its power.

Thanks for being open to suggetiosn

Agree, some Eclipse algorithms in the H9 would be cool… Even if the interface has to be dumbed down for the H9

designing own algorithms is a great idea, but I think it would have to be simpler than vsig IMHO.

[nickrose]

Letting people create their own algs for the H9 is a tough one. Obviously we'd like to do it, but the restrictions necessary to fit complex algs into a fixed stomp box format means that it is considerably more difficult than programming our rack boxes. And, many of our users find those too difficult.

Beyond this, many algs need a UI written for the various iOS apps. Not a simple thing either. There are reasons why these algs cost $20 rather than $2. Did I mention they also have to sound good ?

So, something we'd like to do, but may take a while.

[badmelonfarmer]

Understood.

sounds like a fair amount of work

[cgclepper]

Yes, it's definitely a big ask and not a trivial application to create.  It does seem like the direction Eventide is heading in though.

[ryan.veitch]

My H9 wishlist:
1) Pre/post feature like the Mobius, assignable per preset. With the stereo i/o it seems like this may be possible with a firmware update.
2) Android (and windows) app & algo store just like the app
3) Make it easier to change the name of the presets in the control software. I figured it out once by accident on the iOs amp, but forget how and should not be nearly a hidden feature. Simply double-clicking the name would nice.
4). Click-drag rearranging of presets. Maybe there is a way that I'm missing, but curently I have to locate the preset from al list and drop it in, which is much more inconvenient that just being able to rearranging them with the mouse.
5) Keep new algorithms AND presets coming.
6) Online preset sharing community and archive

[gkellum]

Thanks for the suggestions.  

2) We are working on the Windows algo store at the moment.

3) Changing the name of the presets is under the More menu when a particular preset is selected, but I like your suggestion of double clicking on a preset to rename it.

4) We did intend to make that a feature but it hasn't made it in yet.  It certainly would make reordering presets easier.

5 & 6) We're working on it… 

[ryan.veitch]

Thank you for the reply.  I do believe Eventides willingness to listen to the needs of the customer as well as continuing to support and develople their exhisting products (not just resting on your laurels) are key factors that set you apart from other companies in your industry.   These are also reasons I no longer use Line 6 products.

Oh, and one more for the wish list:

7) The ability to set the A & B delays as serial or parallel.  I may be wrong, but I believe they currently only run parallel.  I also own a Strymon Timeline, and this feature alone on makes it a necessity for me as certain rhymic delay patterns only work the way they do in serial.

Thanks again!

[entreat69]

I'd like to request for the H9 Slicer effect algorithms. Possible?

Thanks

Best regards

R

[gkellum]

Doug Wimbish, the bassist for Living Colour, was also talking up the idea of a slicer algorithm to us. He showed us some examples about how particularly when used in conjuction with other effects you can get a lot of awesome sounds that are fun to tweak with a slicer.

[entreat69]

I really really wish Eventide will create and release ur own Slicer algorithm aptly to complement the unique Ultratap for the H9. Please! 🙂

R

[entreat69]

Btw, this is my Solo Live Looping rig i call "OOpah Loopah" with the H9. In the home studio i'm experimenting with 2 x H9 units with initial tots to replace one the Eventide stomps but ongoing experiments are revealing this to be difficult to do so. 🙂 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151552990976604&set=a.457848951603.250582.551811603&type=3&theater

Regards from Singapore

R

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Hi

Just some quick suggestions but nothing revolutionary:
1. First a question, now with the new system with buying new
future effects, I assume that there is no limit on parameters, or is there
still limits, for example could you create an effect with 20 parameters?
The reason I ask is I would like a 15 band graphic EQ or a
parametric EQ plus a delay.
2.Also separate mix controls in the modechoverb algorithm for
each effect.
3. LFO to control ribbon controller, I know there are lots
of modulation options but it would be cool if when you select the parameters
for the ribbon control if then ribbon control would move itself, and set the
speed (not sure if it can do this).
4. More combination effects 

Already mentioned:
Pre/post option
Looper

Also, when changing a user preset on the ipod it doesn't
give an option to either overwrite or save under a new name, when I last did it
it just overwrote the existing preset.

I haven’t had my H9 for very long but I’m very impressed with
it and looking forward to the new effects you have planned, and I really like
the iOS integration, makes it very easy to control it and experiment with
sounds.

Cheers

[tritone]

Count my vote for a large graphic EQ.

Also, a kind of ADSR for guitar with a tweakable autoswell for attack + a compressor and/or freeze for the sustained sound would be so much help for guitar pads.

[Imerkat]

This preset will give you auto swells

Algo: TremoloPan

Mix:100%

Type: Opto

Depth: 100%

Speed: or sensitivity start at 50% then adjust according to your playing dynamics

Shape: Envelope (works best when guitar is plugged straight in)

Xnob and the rest n/a or 0%

[gkellum]

I'd like to mention as well that TremoloPan also does some slicing effects since that came up earlier in this thread.  Maybe not with all the rhythmic variations that one might want, but it does chop up the input signal when the shape is set to square as it is in H9 factory presets like "I walk alone" and "Square chopper".

[brock]

Quote:

I'd like to mention as well that TremoloPan also does some slicing effects since that came up earlier in this thread.

As does the PitchFactor's HarPeggiator.

Quote:

What about expanding the ribbon control into an X/Y pad that would permit Kaoss Pad-style manipulation of two parameters simultaneously?  Maybe a sketching surface to draw modulation waveforms?  Or a soft version of the new EHX 8 Step Process to allow a preset to sequence expression pedal values using onscreen faders?

Yes, yes, and oh-hell-yes.

 

I could go crazy here with my own suggestions, but let's start fairly simply.  Some kind of true Doppler / pitch shift for the UltraTap.  It wouldn't have to be a great deal of shift, although octaves could be crazy.  That is, if there's any room left in the algo after all of those memory taps.

[nullin]

A big second on the slicer, however this will only be effective when the H9 is able to receive PLAY, CONTINUE, and STOP MIDI commands.  But I know you guys are working on that.  This will turn the Harpeggiator and Tremolo into real weapons.

Also, A BIT CRUSHER!!  I know VintageDelay can do a very limited bit crush, but I'm talking something full featured like a WMD Geiger Counter or a Hexe Bitcrusher.  Not only would this be cool for guitar (my focus) but would be great on keys, drum machine, etc.

If the MIDI command issue is fixed and a slicer and bitcrusher added, I will DEFINITELY buy another H9.  That's the cool thing with the H9, the software expandability makes it possible for the H9 to eventually replace a lot of other pedals on our boards.  I'd rather have 3 H9's on my board than a few other type of pedals.  Can you imagine the versatility???

[nullin]

A slicer would be fantastic!  Controls for duty, attack and mix.  Preset rhythms would be okay (like the
SL-20), doing something like the AdrenaLinn 3 and being able to program 2
measures of slice would be great!  The same program-ability added to
the Harpeggiator would be amazing also.  As was stated earlier, the H9
isn't limited by hardware controls.  However a slicer, the Harpeggiator
and hard tremolo will only be really effective in a live situation after the H9 is able to
recognize MIDI PLAY CONTINUE and STOP commands.  But I know you guys are
working on that.

Also, a BIT CRUSHER please!  I know
VintageDelay has a very limited bit crush, but something full featured
like a WMD Geiger Counter or a Hexe Bitcrusher.  Controls for sample
frequency (down to 260Hz), bit depth (down to 1 bit), telephone (band pass) filter, LFO for sample
frequency (or assignable) and additional overdrive to really make it nasty.  It would be a real
winner and really set the H9 apart from anything else!

[brock]

Quote:

… a slicer, the Harpeggiator and hard tremolo will only be really effective in a live situation after the H9 is able to recognize MIDI PLAY CONTINUE and STOP commands.

I couldn't agree more.  XMT wouldn't hurt, either, for those using it as a MIDI master.  The RESTART function in the PitchFactor never really made sense to me.  It felt partially done.

If you're sync'ing a MIDI chain together – and a phrase has a distinct beginning & end – it should have the ability to tie in to anything else in the system.

[entreat69]

I'd also like to request for H9 to offer an algorithm that's perhaps related to the Pitch Factor range that does the PolyTune function similar or better than the Boss OC3 where it creates polyphonic Octave down effects to certain pitch range on the Low E, A and D Strings on the guitar and include a filter control to the octave tone. Possible please? 🙂

regards

R

[gogotina]

I would like, if possible, to wish overdrive/distortion algorithm with a simple delay or reverb. Sometimes I'm lazy to carry a lot of gear to the sessions. I would also like some kind of Tube Delay, Space Delay and Synth Sounds, but not monophonic. Drive on Rotary algorithm. Please do not sacrifice quality for quantity. Greetings from Croatia.

[Imerkat]

I suggested a bit crusher of some sort earlier. I have the WMD Geiger Counter but given that none of the parameters can be recalled I have to take a picture of it to "save" the settings. If there was an algorithm modeled after it's parameters I would buy the H9 in a heart-beat. What's special about this pedal that it has a pre-amp/ tone and master Level making it a normal distortion pedal. but then you also get a sampler/resolution reduction PLUS the ability to run your signal through different harmonic curves. Honestly the Creativity is endless yet simple.

[badmelonfarmer]

Must say, credit where credit is due…. The H9 Control App is really very good and I bet a lot of other manufacturers are watching! LOL

A few things I noticed that would be useful to have added…

Import of presets, I can't see a way of importing presets.

export of presets, I can only see email as an option on the iOS app, not in the mac (might have missed it)

entering the value rather than virtual knobs only.. Virtual knobs are great, but have found it difficult to enter exact values for say Delay Time… Trying to enter 374 would often give me 376 or 373 etc.

Cheers

Martin 

[gkellum]

Thanks for the feedback.  There's no easy way to import  or export presets currently in the desktop builds of H9 Control, but it's on the todo list.  When you export a preset though from an iOS device, its exported with the extension h9z;  it's really just a zip file, and if you rename the h9z extension to zip and unzip the file, you can just drop the preset into the area where H9 Control manages its presets, which on Mac is ~/Library/H9 Control/Presets.  Like I said though, we're going to make this easier.

With the regards to entering values with the keyboard, people were asking for this on thegearpage too.  We don't want to parse all of the possible text inputs to all of the fields, but parsing numbers is easy enough and from what I gather what people want is to be able to type in numeric values like delay times. So, I think what we're going to do is support typing in input values for the controls with numeric values.

[ryan.veitch]

Excellant suggestions.  I would also like to be able to enter exact values, it would make a few things faster for me, but I might have  a trick to help.  If you hold (I believe) the ALT key while adjusting the virtual knob, it should let you adjust in fine increments.  Hope that helps!

[badmelonfarmer]

ryan.veitch:

If you hold (I believe) the ALT key while adjusting the virtual knob, it should let you adjust in fine increments.  Hope that helps!

PERFECT!!!!! works like a charm!

thanks for that

[badmelonfarmer]

gkellum:

Thanks for the feedback.  There's no easy way to import  or export presets currently in the desktop builds of H9 Control, but it's on the todo list.  When you export a preset though from an iOS device, its exported with the extension h9z;  it's really just a zip file, and if you rename the h9z extension to zip and unzip the file, you can just drop the preset into the area where H9 Control manages its presets, which on Mac is ~/Library/H9 Control/Presets.  Like I said though, we're going to make this easier.

With the regards to entering values with the keyboard, people were asking for this on thegearpage too.  We don't want to parse all of the possible text inputs to all of the fields, but parsing numbers is easy enough and from what I gather what people want is to be able to type in numeric values like delay times. So, I think what we're going to do is support typing in input values for the controls with numeric values.

thanks, much appreciated.

[Nerve]

String Modeler or sympathetic resonance reverb…

[ryan.veitch]

I would love more in the way of synths.  The Synth String model on the line 6 m-series is the ONE thing I used and have not been able to replace adequately yet.

[makers]

When talking about slicers I'd love something towards Livecut.

http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/livecut/

Also anything granular/granulation.

How about a convolution algorithm with the ability to load user IR's?

[Bzerk]

Hi, I received my H9 yesterday, I would like to buy some pitch shifter algos but only have android phone and tablet. No windows or ios device here. So could me +1 for the android port…

Guillaume.

[Poppy]

And why not an in-app on the Eventide Website ? With transferable Algo.

Seriously, I really don't care about Apple or Windows. They take 30% of each algo buyed. We cannot sell our H9 full of algo if one day we want to sell them (and of course we will, you know, technology…).

I'm working on a H9 Midi controller, (10knobs, 4switch) to have a H9 user friendly, and not this "connected" thing. When you are on stage, you are not with an iPad !

I don't understand the eventide decision around this product. It could be so cool but it's not handy and connected with iOs.

[gkellum]

Well, we didn't think that the majority of users would want to use an iOS device on stage to control the H9.  Our thinking was more that it would be really useful while writing or rehearsing to be able to use an iOS device to be able to quickly try out different presets, to be able to see what all their parameters were set to on the UI, and to tweak them as needed.  For use on stage, we though most users would assign the parameters they want to tweak to one of the X, Y, Z, switches or the expression pedal patch or control things via MIDI.

Here's a general question to all H9 users though who also have a factor pedal.  How does working with the X, Y, Z, and HotKnob switches mapped to an encoder compare to your experience of using the 10 knob interface of the factor pedals?

[Poppy]

gkellum:

Well, we didn't think that the majority of users would want to use an iOS device on stage to control the H9.  Our thinking was more that it would be really useful while writing or rehearsing to be able to use an iOS device to be able to quickly try out different presets, to be able to see what all their parameters were set to on the UI, and to tweak them as needed.  For use on stage, we though most users would assign the parameters they want to tweak to one of the X, Y, Z, switches or the expression pedal patch or control things via MIDI.

Here's a general question to all H9 users though who also have a factor pedal.  How does working with the X, Y, Z, and HotKnob switches mapped to an encoder compare to your experience of using the 10 knob interface of the factor pedals?

I understand and the H9 control app is cool for what you said 🙂 but not really for the in-app. I think, the H9 could have been designed like a Factor pedal with knobs and footswitch (and you already produce this kind of box, so you may have a good price on it ;)).

Another thing is that in US the H9 is findable at 400$, an that's ok for that price but in France it's at 770 $ !  (http://www.thomann.de/fr/eventide_h9_harmonizer.htm). 770$ is very expensive if you think that the player need a Midi controler + buy some algo (20$ each). I have bought my H9 in US.

For me, Foot pedals are not like rake effects, they must be accessible very quick on stage to play with it, For example i loved to play with the knobs on my TimeFactor for the crazy delay effects. With the X Y Z + rotary encoder H9, it's not as cool but some players may like it… that's why i'm making an H9 Midi controler with 10 knobs  

[wilkinsi]

I'd like the H9 presets added to the Eclipse 😉

[pauliusmm]

+1 on the Slicer or Adrenalinn type rythmic effects.

[makers]

I have a time factor and space in adition to my new H9. I think the Hotswitch, XYZ set-up is a very good compromise. In live situations I usually only needed to perform 1 or 2 parameters. I like the iOS editor and look forward to using it for my older pedals.

[alexone]

The H9 is really a great device! And I find eventide very responsive on this forum, which is great!!.
I do regret only one thing about the H9. I'm missing some controler. I find it difficult to switch the presets in a song. It would be great if we could program preset sequences within a preset. as a kind of scene:

An example, when I switch the preset 10, the right switch go to 18, then to 21, then back to 10. The left switch or 2 sec on right switch allow to get out the scene mode.

For algorithms, I look for a good uni-vibe-like.

And thanks again for this wonderful thing!!

alex

[pauliusmm]

How about eventide compressor? Would be super awesome to have a quality comp in H9.

[tritone]

There is the dynaverb algo from space which provides a compressor/limiter, the omnipressor, which is itself usable in a complete standalone way by setting decay knob down to zero.

[mchad]

First post!

Don't even have a H9 as yet but it's just a matter of time. Wishing hard for a slicer/sequencer algo. Particularly in use with filters, trems and pitches. Pretty much what my Adrenalinns do. Cool! Would be so good to edit sequences with an iPad using onscreen faders too.

Looking forward to seeing the H9 develop.

[pauliusmm]

Freeze effect. The idea would be to make a sustain pedal that works like a piano sustain pedal. There are some pedals on the market with freeze effect, but the problem with all of them is frozen signal doesnt sound like aa guitar – it is effected, chorused etc. I would like a freeze effect that really sounds like a guitar and not some cheesy synth.

[keithguitarfan]

I just purchased the phaser algorithm for my H9 and a mix knob would be fantastic and is much needed. The effect is too strong when trying to duplicate the Van Halen 1 album sound. I was hoping to replace my EVH MXR Phaser on my pedalboard but I cant even get close to that sound without the mix control. I am open to any advice from you but I have messed with all the parameters and cant duplicate that effect. Also please create a distortion parameter. Your distortions in the Eclipse are amazing, some of the best and purest I have ever heard and would be great for the H9. 

Also I would like to request to become a Beta tester for the H9 firmware and algorhithms. I was previously a beta tester for Line 6 on their Variax, Line 6 Edit software and HD500 models and gave them lots of feedback on bugs and possible improvements in which they actually used a few of mine.

[ryan.veitch]

Have you tried adjusting the depth?  Most phasers (analog included) don't use a mix knob, the "mix" is instead often controlled by the depth of the effect. Hope that helps!

[alexone]

I read you plan an android version of H9 control. What about windows phone?

[gkellum]

alexone:

I read you plan an android version of H9 control. What about windows phone?

Windows phone hasn't really been on our radar.  I believe you're the first person who's asked us to support it.  It's still early for that platform, and I'm user it will pick up users as Nokia rolls out more devices running it.  If so, we'll probably do an evaluation of how hard it would be for us to support it, but at the moment we don't have any immediate plans to do so.

[street_pete]

Hi I just got myself the H9 and am really looking forward to using it live. A couple of suggestions for the wish list. 

1) It would be great to be able to select the tuner option in the RCV midi map settings in addition to the OFF BYP ACT and TOG options. 

2) If there was a option to have each effect either as stereo in/out or dual mono in/out that would be great for enabling different positioning of the H9 in the pedal chain. I think this has been mentioned before but would be brilliant in a mono set up. 

Love your work Eventide, keep it up!

Thanks

[kypo]

Congrats on the H9, its a great sounding unit. Inclusions: A looper (ala Time Factor) would be great. A univibe, and a sequenced tremolo like a lightfootlabs goatkeeper would be cool, also someone else mentioned a Addrenlynn styled sequencer which would be cool too. I previously owed the 4 factor pedals, and this is a great addition. Diggin' the software control, tho I do miss that tactile surface of the factor pedal knobs. Keep the alogarythms coming!

[alexone]

Looper +10000

univibe +1000000

and envelop filter?

I do not know if it's my incompetence, but I have not found an easy way to rearrange the preset in H9 control. A simple copy and paste function to move a preset from one slot to another would be nice<

anyway: thanks for this fantastic stompbox!!!!!

[theryanpaul]

Just wanted to say! This pedal Made me a convert. I never, EVER, thought I would get rid of my M9 but here I am with 2 H9s and no line 6 M9. 

what I think would be awesome is a way to toggle per patch whether the hot switch is latching or momentary. 

Also if the delays were able to have the hot switch rather than the hold feature if I wanted. Cause then I could effectively have 2 settings per patch all controlled by one midi button press

great job guys! I am obsessed with this pedal!

[theryanpaul]

I would also love to beta test

i use this pedal every day and I would love to be on the cutting edge!

 keithguitarfan:

I just purchased the phaser algorithm for my H9 and a mix knob would be fantastic and is much needed. The effect is too strong when trying to duplicate the Van Halen 1 album sound. I was hoping to replace my EVH MXR Phaser on my pedalboard but I cant even get close to that sound without the mix control. I am open to any advice from you but I have messed with all the parameters and cant duplicate that effect. Also please create a distortion parameter. Your distortions in the Eclipse are amazing, some of the best and purest I have ever heard and would be great for the H9. 

Also I would like to request to become a Beta tester for the H9 firmware and algorhithms. I was previously a beta tester for Line 6 on their Variax, Line 6 Edit software and HD500 models and gave them lots of feedback on bugs and possible improvements in which they actually used a few of mine.

[theryanpaul]

Also some nitpick things.

It would be amazing in the H9 control software if when you are in preset list mode you can see the Tempos of each patch. I have to load 3 different sets into 2 H9s every week! and it would be a huge help to see tempo on that screen.

Also ability to affect multiple H9s at once. It would be nice to be able to load both of my H9s at once with presets.

And again. Ability to have the hot switch option on every pedal, Even the delays and Reverbs. It would be nice if you could assign what that middle switch did in the software, so you could make it a hold pedal or a hot switch or a fast/slow switch.

also a way to have the tap tempo show even if you aren't in the tap mode. Its nice when I can see the tempo of the song wight the tap LED but I use that switch to go up and down with patches. Is there a way to make the tempo still show up even if you are not inputting tap?

thanks again! Love your product!!

[gkellum]

Thanks for your feedback.

theryanpaul:

It would be amazing in the H9 control software if when you are in preset list mode you can see the Tempos of each patch. 

I assume you mean you'd like to see the tempo value in the 3×3 grid of the preset list overview, no?  This is because, you are changing the tempo a lot for particular presets depending on what song you are using it in, but otherwise keeping the preset the same?

[theryanpaul]

Yes in the 3×3 window. I sometimes use the same preset for different songs and it would be nice to differentiate by bpm. Also Sometimes I have patches set for certain songs but different versions of said song and it makes it easier to tell which ones which when I can see the tempo. 

Again. LOVE the H9. First time since the m9 came out that I've ever wanted a different pedal to sculpt my sound around. It knocked the m9 off the board after listening to the H9 for 30 seconds!!

I also love the idea of having the algos you get attached to you forever for further expansion if you guys ever offer an H13 or something where you can run 2 algos at once!

It'll be a long process for me to purchase all the algos but I'm excited to someday have a fully loaded H9. 

Also are you guys looking for beta testers for the H9? I literally use it every day in sessions and 4 times a week playing at out at church

Cheers!

[sdcol]

would like to be able to store preset from both my h9 pedals to one preset slot on ipad like effects chain so do not have to switch between pedals

Thanks

[clibbon]

If it hasn't been mentioned before, I need a more precise way to dial in the miliseconds on patches with delay settings.  It's pretty hard to dial in 463ms sometimes.

[gkellum]

In the most recent build of H9 Control, you can double tap on parameter values to type in their values. On the H9 itself pressing the encoder while you are adjusting a value puts you in fine tune mode.

[jazzgear]

A line level capable H9 please?  And I will re-purchase one.

[cgclepper]

I'm using the H9 at line level without much issue, but the cable runs are maybe 10 feet to and from the patchbay.  The H9 is actually less touchy than my DSP4000 with input signals.

A 1U half rack mount version would be nice!

[Imerkat]

+1

don't know why the half-rack units all but faded out to pedal format. I think they are best for home recording and desktop use.

[jazzgear]

We'll I can't explain why that is.  It clipped at the lowest setting in both my SLO and Shiva loops.  It's definitely not a line level loop, as Eventide has admitted, it's an instrument loop allegedly capable of high level signals.  But I can attest that is not entirely true.

Worked just fine in my other amp's loops that are instrument level.

[jazzgear]

Btw the cable runs from my loop to the H9 was just 3 feet

[marcusm750]

I would buy the H9 just for a good Uni-Vibe algo alone.  Well, that and Rotary without having to buy the whole MF (sorry, that's the only sound I like from that one).  Distortion emulations would be an absolute blast!  Think Tube Drivers, RATs, DOD 250s and Blues Drivers.

That said, (and I know it's only been a couple months this thread has been around) any status update on any of these new algo requests?

[gkellum]

marcusm750:

That said, (and I know it's only been a couple months this thread has been around) any status update on any of these new algo requests?

Well, as has been mentioned elsewhere on the forums, we're working on bringing the looper to H9: http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/8558.aspx  We also have something new being worked on that was requested in this thread, but it's too early to start talking about it what it is or when it's coming out though…

[nullin]

How's the work on syncing to MIDI clock coming?  I've been emailing Pete about it and says you guys are looking into it as well as the play/stop/continue MIDI commands.  Simply being rock solid on this feature would immediately improve so many existing effects (Harpeggiator, Tremolo, and now looper).  Still hoping for a slicer too.  Cool job on the resonator!  Similar to the Adrenalinn, but a little different and more simple, which does lead to easier noodling.  FYI, I'm telling family that I only want iTunes gift cards for X-mas, so keep those algorithms coming!!  🙂

[rdnzl]

Hi there

Could we have midi via usb and midi 5 pin at the same time ?

Kind Regards

[Styrioci]

spillover, please?

[nickrose]

rdnzl:

Could we have midi via usb and midi 5 pin at the same tim

Sorry – no. The hardware can only do one or the other.  You can use bluetooth at the same time as either USB or DIN5.

[marcusm750]

Thanks, gkellum.  As a TF owner, I can attest the looper will be a welcomed addition to the H9.

gkellum:

We also have something new being worked on that was requested in this thread, but it's too early to start talking about it what it is or when it's coming out though…

When you guys get done slicing Julienne fries and crushing dem bits, please keep us Hendrix freaks in mind with a killer Shin-ei Uni-Vibe reproduction. 

[marcusm750]

marcusm750:

Distortion emulations would be an absolute blast!  Think Tube Drivers, RATs, DOD 250s and Blues Drivers.

Please disregard as incoherent ramblings from a momentary lapse of reason.

How on God's Green Earth I could forget Dynamic Distortion is beyond me (and I have regular access to a couple H3000s but have never used them for dirt).  Surely the H9 would be powerful enough to run either the original DD algo or the DD2 from the Eclipse.

I know the TF looper, slicers, bit crushers, a "real deal" Uni-Vibe and whatever other secrets percolating are already in line, but please add porting DD2 in its entirety to the Wish List.

[hendrik7]

My simple wish:

I want to be able to rename the stock presets. I don't wanna have to save a new user preset if I just wanna rename or even slightly adjust the mix for a given preset. Let me edit the stock stuff! And just have an option to recall factory presets for any given algo.

I would also like to be asked if I wanna overwrite or rename when I'm editing user presets. Sometimes I start tweaking user presets and if I accidentally hit save, I overwrite it right away and my old preset is lost 🙁 I know the workaround would be to copy and then save/rename but I would like to be asked(couldn't you just have an option in the menu for this? "always ask before overwrite" etc)

Any just some simple stuff that would make the already great user interface even better imo!

[gkellum]

hendrik7:

I want to be able to rename the stock presets. I don't wanna have to save a new user preset if I just wanna rename or even slightly adjust the mix for a given preset. Let me edit the stock stuff! And just have an option to recall factory presets for any given algo.

Well, the thing with the factory presets is that they are bundled in with the app, and because of where they are stored, you would need administrator rights to overwrite them.  Copying a preset puts it into a location where it's writable by the user…

hendrik7:

I would also like to be asked if I wanna overwrite or rename when I'm editing user presets.

You're the second person that's mentioned that.  It should be easy enough to add…

[theryanpaul]

The ability to store your user presets in alphabetical order would be great. 

Also (and I know it's probably not possible) it would be awesome when running stereo to be able to have 2 different algos come out of the left and right outputs. 

🙂

[DigitalTube]

Is there a Noise Gate, and Compressor algo available for the H9? 

[rdnzl]

Hello

Please add the hot knob to the already existing 10 knobs controllable via aux switch.

Cherio

[gkellum]

DigitalTube:

Is there a Noise Gate, and Compressor algo available for the H9? 

Check out the DynaVerb algorithm. If you set the decay to 0, it's just a compressor.  Here is the algorithm description from its help file (which is bundled into H9 Control).

Eventide Eclipse reverb with a model of the Eventide Omnipressor® to create an adaptable dynamics reverb.  The Omnipressor is capable of all types of dynamics processing from gating, expansion, compression, limiting, and even its signature &quot;dynamic reversal,&quot; where loud signals are squashed, but quiet signals are amplified.  In DynaVerb, the Omnipressor can dynamically control the output of a reverberator based on, either the input signal for maximum control, the reverb output for incredible chaos, or any mixture of the two.  As an added bonus DynaVerb can also be used as a standalone Omnipressor by setting [DECAY] to zero. 

[DigitalTube]

Thanks!!!

[jbernard54]

I think the biggest thing on my list would be the option to manually put in numbers via the app. It is really hard especially on some of the knobs with huge numbers like shimmer to get the exact number you want. 

Along with the looper which I really really hope is coming out soon!!!!

[toddedwards]

There's also compression in the Timefactor Ducked Delay algo.  I messed around with it last night and was impressed.  Combining it with a slapback setting on Delay B yielded a pretty good chicken pickin' tone.  I've never been able to keep a compressor on my board for long because I just don't use it that much live.  Having it available in the H9 for those few occasions that I do use it is a nice bonus.

[toddedwards]

You can do that now.  Just clicking or tapping on the number puts it in edit mode and allows you to type an exact value.

[badmelonfarmer]

In the  latest version of the app you can click or tap on the values to enter exact numbers

[hendrik7]

One simple wish:

Stop making me go to preset one in Ultratap everytime a demo finishes! Let me stay where I am! Sometimes when I try algo's I dont spend the full 5 min with it, and when I'm already deep into something else, it takes me to the Ultratap as soon as the demo in the background finishes! Super annoying. I'm glad I haven't showed my buddies any demo algos 3-4 min before a gig.

Minor bug:

Resonator algo has a lot of repeated presets.

[gkellum]

hendrik7:

Minor bug:

Resonator algo has a lot of repeated presets.

What do you mean that Resonator has a lot of repeated presets? You mean you are seeing multiple copies of presets with the same name, or you mean that some of the presets that are named differently sound the same?

[hendrik7]

I don't have my H9 in front of me now but yeah it's multiple copies of the same preset.

Like Thor's Bells was like number 21 and 23 (Just from memory, I might have the numbers wrong)

[mafromusic]

I'll just echo what's been written all over the other big guitar forums, TheGearPage and HugeRacksInc

1. Open it up to users and third party designers. I'm not massively bothered if the UI isn't the same for user made sounds, perhaps an Advanced tab?. TC's Toneprint Editor is a good compromise for users that don't necessarily want to get so deep. I mean the potential for this thing is insane. 

2. Multifx. The power is there. Give me a H3000 on the floor. 90% of editing is going to happen on a computer or ipad anyway with switching as part of a midi rig. Yes it's a pedal but it's not going to be used like one given the UI. It'll be something people "program" rather than twist knobs like on a traditional FX pedal.

3. Way more bread and butter MultiAlgs in the meantime, essentials that'll get us through gigs over the crazy FX!

[mafromusic]

I'd pay $60 for a full Mod Factory 1+2.

[coirbidh_99]

Because it makes total sense for Eventide to undercut their market for $2k+ rackmount processors with a $499 stompbox….

[mafromusic]

Multi-FX is hardly a $2000 feature especially given the sounds working guitarists actually need and use. If they could do it 20yrs ago they can definitely do it now.. Using the whole DSP on one out-there sound isn't very useful to most musicians.

Besides the main thing undercutting the $2000+ racks is the old units themselves, which the H9 could easily replace.

The really high end market will always be there.

It's only a matter of time until Strymon (in particular) or TC do it.

[mrfett]

I'd like to be able to have the encoder assigned to the hotswitch.

[themoonshook]

Wish — Forced Feedback

The 'distortion preamp' algo in the Eclipse has this feature.  Is it possible to have a feedbacker as a stand alone algo in the H9?

[Imerkat]

It would be awesome if somewhere down the line you put the platform of the H9 in factor pedal format. I'm a huge fan of the style of the factor pedals but I can't imagine making changes on-the-fly with just one knob… and I'm allergic to Apples.

I would l love to have a recreation of these:

Bit/ Sampler reduction effect  (WMD Geiger Counter)

Glitch and Stutter Effect (Hexe Revolver)

[ryan.veitch]

I was really supprised and bummed out that the MIDI Program Change Transmit Map does not work/transmit when receiving program changes as well.  I love that you can map the program changes asynchronously so that I don't have to make a copy of a preset for every corresponding program change I recieve, but I also would like (need! :)) the H9 to also transmit mapped program changes as well.  Midi transmit mapping is there, but unless I am missing something it seems like this only actually functions if the program changes are loaded using the left footswitch? I use an OC-10 for my loop and midi program changes, so the left footswitch method is an extra and useless step for me.  I think you get the idea, but just to be sure, if I send a midi program change of lets say 42 to the H9, I want to be able to have it load up say preset 17 (this it can do with the mapping) but I also want to be able to map a program change that it will transmit to the other midi units I have down the line.  This would be also stellar to add to the control app like the recieve map that is already present.

Wish #2) EHX Microsynth type algorithm.  I thought the synthonizer might be able to get me there but is quite different it seems.

Wish #3) Pre-Post switching similar to the Mobius.

Wish #4) Please fix the tap tempo synch issues when loading a patch.

And keep up the good work!

[jbernard54]

What Tap-Tempo issues are you having? I haven't ever had a problem. Have you turned global tap-tempo on?

[ryan.veitch]

The issue is with tap tempo synching across devices.  The H9 will only synch and transmit properly if tapping in the tempo, but not

when a program is loaded.  I also noticed that it will only synch if set to transmit, which is very frustrating as it will then not

pass midi on.  If set to midi thru it will pass and accept program changes correctly, but will not transmit any clock info or other

midi info. I collected my midi "wish list" together so it is hopefully a little easier to follow.

1) Transmit midi clock/tap tempo to other devices to synch from
2) Transmit midi clock/tempo upon loading a patch. This should be a feature that could be enabled/disabled, ideally per program.
3) Transmit program changes and midi CC generated by the H9 while still passing midi information and program changes recieved from other devices.
4) Add Midi program change transmit mapping to the H9 control software.  I believe it currently only allows you to map program recieve info from the software though you can map program change transmitting from the unit itself.
5) Transmit midi program changes that have been mapped on the H9 when the unit recieve a program change.

[nullin]

The H9's MIDI can be improved on a number of fronts.  For me the issue is MIDI clock.  While the H9 will accept incoming tempo, it doesn't really lock onto the clock signal, so with effects like tremolo and the Harpeggiator there will be noticeable drift after a minute or two.  I had been emailing support about it and even sent the MIDI clock information from my Boss RC-505 to help.  I haven't heard back for a while, so I'm not sure if they're still working on it or have given up.  There are a couple inconvenient workarounds, but I just don't understand how units like the Roger Linn Adrenalinn, Boss SL-20 and EHX 8 Step Program can keep such a rock solid tempo yet it cannot be done in the H9.

The Harpeggiator in particular could be SUCH an amazing effect, but without being able to lock on solidly to MIDI clock, it's just a novelty effect.

[drbob1]

The interface using an iPod touch is clunky-you have to swipe "just right" to get the knob to respond. Having it set so tapping on the knob then swiping up or down would clearly reset that knob would be very helpful. Right now I find it easier to assign some knobs to x,y,z to adjust and then reassign back… 

[hendrik7]

I can imagine it's hard to control with a small ipod but with the ipad it's pretty much perfect. I definitely wouldn't vote for a fix that would compromise the ipad controlling.

You can always tap it and set a number/value manually too.

[drbob1]

I've found the IOS interface clunky-hard to get the knobs to turn easily. You can assign them to x,y,z but it would be easier if tapping on any knob temporarily assigned it to the big knob! 

[gkellum]

drbob1:

I've found the IOS interface clunky-hard to get the knobs to turn easily. You can assign them to x,y,z but it would be easier if tapping on any knob temporarily assigned it to the big knob! 

That's not a bad idea.  In the next release we'll probably just make the active area for the controls bigger though so they're easier to hit…  Incidentally, you do know that when you press one of the rotary knobs you drag up and down to increase or decrease the value, right?  Some people try to  drag around the knob (or left / right), but that's not how those controls are configured to respond to user gestures…

[marcusm750]

Glad I'm not the only one wishing for Dynamic Distortion 2 with Forced Feedback via expression pedal ported from the Eclipse.

And don't forget that be-all-end-all Shin-ei Uni-Vibe algo to get our Hendrix/Trower freak on! 

[Superwaldi]

I'm not an owner yet, but I am very interested in the H9 (or H10 😉 )

I would love to see something like a 4 cable method (maybe using the stereo in- and outputs) to be able to place some effects before and behind the preamp.

Moreover 2 FX at the same time would be great. At least to set a reverb and/or delay behind every algorithm would make me buy the stomp box immediately.

An univibe algorythm is highly appreciated as well. 

[theryanpaul]

Is there a way to order presets by name rather than patch number in the iOS program? It would be so much easier to navigate presets if they were alphabetical

[gkellum]

At the top of the screen in H9 Control, there are header bars showing how the presets are being sorted.  You can click on the header bar above the list of presets to cycle through the different sort options.

[jbernard54]

My biggest want it to somehow have an external LED screen so I can see the full algorithm name. I have similar delay algorithms such as 'dotted 8th short tail, long tail, subtle, etc.'

I would love to be able to not have to come up with some sort of short hand to fit everything on the screen.

[cormallen]

I'd like to add another vote for bit reduction, glitch and other Geiger Counter type things.

Also, would it be possible to add EQ – perhaps a three band parametric – not as a separate algorithm, but as as an extra level of editing to all the existing algos?  (I'm not sure how much DSP power that would require, or how close to the limit the existing algo get, so it may not be possible).

Thanks,

Harry

[NMillroy]

A few things currently on my H9 wish list:

1. H9 Control User Guides (perhaps it's already available?) – On iPhone, how do I select parameters to be controlled by the hotknob and define the upper and lower values? Can this be defined per preset? I want this to be controlled via my midi expression pedal which I know works with my H9

2. Spillover

3. Pre/Post routing options

4. Concerning iPhone H9 control – I used a preset list within the "Lists" section which I uploaded to the pedal. I'd like to be able to edit the user presets that make up this list from within the "presets" section and for this to automatically update the preset list within "Lists" ready to be uploaded to the pedal. At the moment, the only way to update the pedal is to edit these presets from within the "Lists" section.

[gkellum]

NMillroy:

1. On iPhone, how do I select parameters to be controlled by the hotknob and define the upper and lower values? Can this be defined per preset? I want this to be controlled via my midi expression pedal which I know works with my H9

There are two buttons surrounding the ribbon controller on the bottom of the algorithm control screen. Press either of those and move the parameter across the range you want to be mapped to the expression. Press anywhere in the ribbon controller area to turn off mapping. To erase a mapping and start over, you can press one of those buttons and pull the end points of the range together so that it looks like no range is mapped to the expression pedal; that will cause that parameter to be removed from the expression pedal mapping. You can also double click on the parameter and then a popup will appear which will give you the option to remove the parameter from the expression pedal mapping.

These mappings are saved with each preset, and yes, the expression pedal patch can also be controlled via MIDI.

NMillroy:

4. Concerning iPhone H9 control – I used a preset list within the "Lists" section which I uploaded to the pedal. I'd like to be able to edit the user presets that make up this list from within the "presets" section and for this to automatically update the preset list within "Lists" ready to be uploaded to the pedal. At the moment, the only way to update the pedal is to edit these presets from within the "Lists" section.

Yeah, we considered doing things the way you suggest, but ultimately, we thought it was better to give each preset list its own local copy of a preset that would remain unchanged by changes to the source user preset, because we knew there would be cases where people would update their user preset and not want their preset lists to be affected.  We'll have to think about whether we could add some sort of additional mechanism for optionally syncing changes to a user preset.

[rdnzl]

How about a vocoder ?

[entreat69]

Happy New Year everyone! +1 for the Dynamic Distortion and Forced Feedback Algos for H9. I previously have also mentioned the need for Splicer type Algos.

[hendrik7]

When I freeze a patch how come my signal becomes completely dry? Reduces the usefulness of freeze by a bunch. I use freeze function to create a pad underneath while phrasing. Sounds pretty bad to have a beautiful ambient wash underneath and then solo on top with a completely dry signal.

I think I mentioned this before but I can't find it here. Please make it a possibility to change the bypass switch to something else. I'm using the H9 with a three button footswitch which is set to increment and decrement and….hot switch…because I can't change the function of the bypass switch on the H9. Sure I could set the footswtich to bypass as well but then I would lose the hotswitch. It's very inconvenient to bank up and down on the footswitch but having to engage it with the H9 itself. Being able to have the hot switch and the tap tempo on the H9 unit would make so much more sense on my board.

I'm not been able to try out new algos I've demoed before. It's been over a week for me now.

[hendrik7]

NMillroy:

1. H9 Control User Guides (perhaps it's already available?)

I second that!

Been wishing for an in depth manual explaining the algo's in more detail. The info in the algo manual and the info tab within the app is so vague…or inextensive is maybe a better word.

I would really welcome a more detailed algo manual elaborating on each parameter and function, explaining it's setting and use.

[coirbidh_99]

It's maybe not as convenient as you'd like, but since the H9 algorithms are fundamentally the same as the Factor algorithms, the relevant info can be found by simply consulting the online manuals for those pedals.  That's not helpful for UltraTap and Resonator, obviously, but the others should all be covered.

[hendrik7]

I checked out the pdf's for the Space pedal and couldn't find anything like it? Perhaps you were referring to the Space Preset Guide? If so, it doesn't provide any specific info. Merely a preset overview.

[cormallen]

Would it be possible to have an option to make pressing the Big Knob go to the tuner?  I know pressing both footswitches does it, but I find it really fiddly trying to do that in a hurry on a dark stage.

(I know I could plug in an external footswitch to do it, but I have an expression pedal plugged in to that socket).

Harry

[coirbidh_99]

hendrik7:

I checked out the pdf's for the Space pedal and couldn't find anything like it? Perhaps you were referring to the Space Preset Guide? If so, it doesn't provide any specific info. Merely a preset overview.

In the Space owner's guide available at http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Support/Stompboxes/Space.aspx, description of the algorithms starts on p. 17.  Every preset uses a specific algorithm, so you're looking for the algorithm's detailed info.

[hendrik7]

Thanks man but that's exactly the same inextensive info in the H9 algo guide. Short one liners to explain each parameter is not exactly what I would call an in-depth manual.

Think Boogie's Mark V manual for an example of what I'm talking about.

[JWaltz]

Hi Harry,

It is possible to use an expression pedal and an AUX footswitch at the same time with the H9.

This isn't well documented but it works.

You need a 'stereo – Y cable' where the TRS goes from the EXP in on the H9  to a TS and an RS connector. Connect the TS to the EXP PDL and the RS to the momentary Footswitch. The footswitch can activate the TUNER. You just need to go into the SYSTEM mode or use H9 control to set this up. ie. UTILS>EXPTIP>BOTH and AUXSW>TUN.RNG.

We will make a video demo in the next week or so to make users aware of this feature.

hope this helps.

joe

[cormallen]

That's fantastic, thanks!  Will try to wire that up soon…

Harry

[hendrik7]

Any news on an Android app?

[kfirochaion]

Hello, here are my requests:

1. A good uni-vibe algorithm (if the Eventide guys come up with a really good one I'm buying a second h9).

2. On iPhone app – slide between two sections of preset window instead of navigating through the arrows. (you can add 2 circles to show that there is more – like in the iPhone main app screen).

After removing the arrows you can add better menu for save/edit/etc.

[dimitris1179]

kfirochaion:

1. A good uni-vibe algorithm.

That also finds its way to the Modfactor you mean, right?

[gkellum]

kfirochaion:

2. On iPhone app – slide between two sections of preset window instead of navigating through the arrows. (you can add 2 circles to show that there is more – like in the iPhone main app screen).

After removing the arrows you can add better menu for save/edit/etc.

Do you mean on this screen? http://ftp.eventide.com/ljdl/H9/screenshots/iphone_algorithm_control.png

This screen used to respond to swipe gestures to move between the two sections of the screen, but people complained that when they were adjusting the knobs the screen was sometimes sliding instead of the knob moving.  So, we added those navigation buttons instead.  Doing that also freed up some room to make the knobs bigger;  in the next release they're going to be 15-20% bigger depending on whether you have an iPhone 4 or 5.

[gkellum]

hendrik7:

Any news on an Android app?

No, news on the Android app.  There are things happening on the Android front, but we don't have any big, exciting announcements to make about that at this time.

[dimitris1179]

Hi,

Are there any news about the Factors new firmware and the H9 control compatibility?

[JWaltz]

Hi Harry –

We just found a bug running the EXP PDL and AUX SW in BOTH mode on the EXP input.

– AUX SW only works when the EXP PDL is in the TOE position.

– This EXPTIP > BOTH System setting doesn't get saved on power down.

We should have an H9 SW release out in about a month that fixes this.

thx,

joe

[kfirochaion]

Tuner Access

Access to the tuner is not comfortable.

Is there any chance to change it by pressing on the big knob?

I know there is a use for it in some cases, but whenever it is free from use it will be awesome if it triggered the tuner.

Pressing and holding the 2 switches is very uncomfortable especially in a live show.

Thanks!

[JWaltz]

You can dedicate a small momentary footswitch connected to the EXP jack and patched to the TUNER for instant tuner access.

[kfirochaion]

Thanks, but the idea is to reduce the number of pedals on my board.

I already have a tuner pedal I can use, but if there's already a tuner in the H9 is'll be great to have an easy access too.

[alexone]

Hello,

I love this pedal, I really get awesome good sounds. All my desir  have already been mentioned by me and others: a good Univibe algorithm, a good delay + reverb. Distortion first surprised me, I think the best distortions are analog. But you could do some interesting things. Do you know the plugin Ohmicide? I suggest you take a look: it's a multiband distortion!

In fact, I am very satisfied and do not really have a vital need for other effects. By cons, there is a big disappointment about the foot control !!!! grrrrr!. I do not know how to manage it. Live, it's a disaster. You should try to find a solution with control configuration. I play for a few months, a dozen concerts, and it's still epic! I 'd like a simple configuration with a double footswitch:

up/down (without confirmation of preset), tuning and tap tempo.

IOS control is a good idea but I use my hands to play. Do you plan to make a midi control footswitch (someone here has made ??one presented here and there a few months)

[AmbientUser]

Definitely Android support.  I refuse to buy anything Apple.

[SergioxZen]

+1 for Android support! Or the ability to purchase algos from Windows or some other way without using Aple.
P.S. Thank you Eventide! Looks like H9 is really great pedal. Mine H9 is on the way to me, I am 99% shure that I will love it with first minute! Eventide is one of the best effects I've ever heard!

[AAgnello]

Download H9 control for mac or windows and you can buy algorithms.

[SergioxZen]

Great news! I was scared that I will have to buy Aple, as in F.A.Q. to H9 is:

"Can I buy algorithms for the H9 if I do not have an iOS device?

Currently no. We are working on a solution, however, that will allow people to purchase algorithms from the desktop version of H9 Control."

P.S. I hope mine H9 will be soon, thanks for reply!

[badmelonfarmer]

yes the desktop app with ability to buy algorithms came out later than the iOS app.

They must have forgotten to go back and update the FAQ.

[zazula]

Hi –

I sent a few of these suggestions in via e-mail and just found this thread:

1. Expression control of DSP Input mix.  This would allow cutting of the DSP input while letting an effect ring out.  Same as VolumePedal -> H9, but works in a serial effects loop.
2. Ducker -> Reverb (preferably, Ducked Delay -> Reverb).  Duck the input to a reverb (the DynaVerb ducks the reverb output).
3. Cloud sync of presets and preset lists between devices (my iPhone, iPad and Mac are littered with out of sync presets – and that is just after two days!)

If any of these can be done already, please let me know!

[Nerve]

More Headroom.

[rrinn]

I want  Pre/Post routing options.

And I want EQ(Graphic , Parametric and Shelving) algorithm.

I think that Wah is like a very characteristic EQ,so H9 can do it!!

[rrinn]

i want Pre/Ppst options.

and i want EQ(graphic , parametric and shelving) Algorithm.

i think WAH is like a very characteristic EQ,so H9 can do it!!

[zazula]

A few more ideas:

– Option to have the end of the expression pedal range bypass / activate the preset (pedal @ 0 = bypass and/or pedal @ 100 = bypass)

This will help eliminate phasing issues when running in a parallel effects loop on some effects.

– Kill Dry setting per input

I'm trying to run two amps into the unit, but one has a parallel effects loop and the other serial.  So, the two inputs require different settings for kill dry

– Per-preset input select (AKA "twice as nice" mode)

Not quite EventideRoutingUtility, but close 😉  What if I want some presets before my amp and others after?  Why not route:  guitar -> input1 -> output1 -> amp input -> amp FX send -> input2 -> output2 -> amp FX return

I'm not thinking of running each input at the same time, but more of an either or in cases where some effects are better before or after the preamp.

For a parallel effects loop, I'd want KillDry for input 2 but not input 1.  You may say "buy an H9 core" and you may be right, but this seems like something that would be doable in a single unit.

It would be nice to have a global setting that helped as a failsafe against a feedback loop – basically put the pedal into "twice as nice" mode so it knows how it is wired, set a global kill dry for each input and then the preset just needs to know which input it should be reading from (unless you can think of an effect that would be OK to run both pre and post pre-amp?).

Thanks.

[NMillroy]

Eventide – Can we expect spillover on H9 soon? My Timefactor has it so don't understand why this wasn't included in the first release?

When using my timefactor in a midi setup (audio loop on or off plus timefactor output into line mixer as parallel loop killdry enabled) i toggle between 2 different audio loop presets (rhythm TF loop off & lead with TF loop on) both of which are selecting the same TF delay patch – when switching between lead and dry rhythm the delay trails off smoothly and sounds great. If I try and emulate this with the H9 it doesn't sound smooth at all, not sure what the difference is here but could you advise what the issue is here and if I can fix it with the current firmware? If not can I expect a fix in the next firmware update? Hope this makes sense?

[nickrose]

Sorry – no plans for spill for H9 at this point – H9 and TF are too different, even though the algorithms are similar.

[Styrioci]

nickrose:

Sorry – no plans for spill for H9 at this point – H9 and TF are too different, even though the algorithms are similar.

I understand that spillover when switching between different presets might be tricky and different to implement. but what about spillover only for DSP bypass for time based effects? or is there no difference? just asking

[Boynigel]

regarding H9 Control-  i wish that while in "playlists" one could simply drag presets into  the order in which they want them to show up in.

[gkellum]

boynigel:

regarding H9 Control-  i wish that while in "playlists" one could simply drag presets into  the order in which they want them to show up in.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but on iPad, MacOSX, and Windows you can do this by pressing the "edit list" button and using the drag n drop functionality in that screen.

[Boynigel]

for simplicity's sake, let's say i want to switch my #2 preset w/my #3 preset- if i try to simply drag the #3 preset in front of the #2 preset, it will not let me do this.  is there some other way? 

[gkellum]

boynigel:

for simplicity's sake, let's say i want to switch my #2 preset w/my #3 preset- if i try to simply drag the #3 preset in front of the #2 preset, it will not let me do this.  is there some other way? 

oh, well, you can select preset #2, hit the copy button which is under the more options button in the upper right hand corner of the screen, select preset #3, and hit the swap button which is under the more options button as well.  but no, you're right in that you can't just drag preset #2 to position #3…

[Boynigel]

i'll give that a try, thanks.

[badmelonfarmer]

Just taken delivery of an H9 core and the registration and syncing of purchased algorithms from the main H9 could not have been more simple….. Seriously well done on making it so painless and easy.

I started to control them connected to my mac via USB and am finding that switching back and fore between multiple H9's is a little clunky in the interface, in that you have to perform a lot of clicks and it does not seem to remember the algorithm that the particular H9 is running.

Am I missing something?.. I seem to have to click onto "algorithms"…select the H9… Then select "presets" but the interface seems to shoe the algorithm that the previously selected H9 was running, even though the H9 does not actually change preset.

It would be useful to have something like browser "tabs" to be able to switch between the h9's .. Or failing tabs… You have the H9 number on the top bar… If you could click that to swap back and fore it would be useful.

It may be just me getting used to it, but it seemed a little clunky compared to the reset of the interface when running a single H9, which really is fantastic and really intuitive.

[Boynigel]

here's my H9 wish-  regarding the direction in which the unit scrolls through the presets, how about having a visual confirmation as to the direction that the unit is currently set?  in other words if the unit is set to scroll UP, have the Z button continually flashing.  if the unit is set to scroll DOWN, have the X button do the same.  the achilles heel of the H9 is all the scrolling, let's face it.  this would make things a little easier. 

sometimes mid-performance i'll tap the encoder switch with my foot to prep for a preset change and i'm never 100% sure if i hit it hard enough to register the change as i'm afraid to hit it too hard and break it.  my above suggestion would offer immediate visual confirmation.

[endru]

A glitching effect that randomizes the duration and repeats of effects similar to this Radiohead patch.

[SergioxZen]

+1, encoder seems not so strong as a regular footswitch, and I'm always trying to push it very gently with foot, and sometimes it's not hard enough to change scrolling direction. Some kind of announcement on led dispay or with X Y Z buttons would be great!

[pmp6668]

how about a global 'tap tempo on'? it seems you have to do this with each individual preset… if there is a global setting, I'm not seeing it.

[AAgnello]

Global tempo is supported on all of our stompboxes. You can turn it on or off in system mode. For example see Page 22 of H9 user guide.

[drew11roberts]

I don't know if it has been mentioned yet, But I would like to have the ability to make my preset lists without having to be connected to the H9. It would help a lot to just be able to arrange my presets for an upcoming show and not have to be stuck next to my pedalboard. Then when I am ready I can just load that preset bundle.

[drew11roberts]

I would like to have the ability to arrange a preset list without having to be connected to the H9. Then whenever I am ready I just have to load that bundle and I am ready to go. That way I don't have to be next to my pedalboard the whole time I am planning out my presets for a gig

[gkellum]

drew11roberts:

I would like to have the ability to arrange a preset list without having to be connected to the H9. Then whenever I am ready I just have to load that bundle and I am ready to go. That way I don't have to be next to my pedalboard the whole time I am planning out my presets for a gig

You can do that now. You press the icon representing your ios device or computer and look under the more menu for the new list option and you can create a list thats saved on your ios device or computer that you can work on without being connected to an H9.

[Mat Conboy]

1. Use a standard 'Boss' style power plug. I hate carting lots of power supplies. Possible battery? Playing busking gigs with the H9 is limited unless you have thought it through. Just let me use a battery for 3-4hrs. How about LiPo…and charge it from USB???

2. The crazy amount of algorithms makes for hours of playing and searching. Sometimes all I wanna do is put an 'astrix' on it. Not have to scroll and 'save' to a location. I just wanna click a 'star' logo perhaps. When I then go back to the 200 bloody algorithms I can easily see which sounds I liked and want to work with. Kinda like 'flagging' an email before you file it.

3. Saving presets via the Control to locations on the H9 and having to scroll down the '0-99' wheel is a PITA. Is there a better way?

4. Can't remember.

[Mat Conboy]

4. The possible 'looper' algorithm…perhaps similar to the Ditto x2: left button – record, overdub, double stop clear (big black knob is loop volume in this mode). Right button – turn FX on/off (when on you have the option of using the wheel to scroll all presets as normal). Keep it simple.  That's what I like about the H9, it's simple.

[gkellum]

Mat Conboy:

2. The crazy amount of algorithms makes for hours of playing and searching. Sometimes all I wanna do is put an 'astrix' on it. Not have to scroll and 'save' to a location. I just wanna click a 'star' logo perhaps. When I then go back to the 200 bloody algorithms I can easily see which sounds I liked and want to work with. Kinda like 'flagging' an email before you file it.

I like this idea. I use this function a lot in the Songsterr app.

Mat Conboy:

3. Saving presets via the Control to locations on the H9 and having to scroll down the '0-99' wheel is a PITA. Is there a better way?

Well, you can always limit the preset range if you're not using all 99 presets. 

[Mat Conboy]

Yes I understand you can limit them. But if I'm playing a new algorithm and I want to save it to the H9, I hit 'save to H9' then have to remember what's the next available spot I'm up to, use the scroll feature (that's a lot to 'scroll' through) and hit 'save'. I've done this a few times and without knowing what the last preset I saved to I have no idea what I'm up to!

5. Put the time at the top of the screen on the Control App. It would really help me in some situations.

[hendrik7]

I guess this is a bug: If I adjust the output level in any given preset and play a little, then try to adjust it again, it won't make the changes the second time unless I deactivate the effect/pedal and activate it again.

[tahoebrian5]

Ok, next wish from me… There needs to be a setting that sets the initial state of the expression pedal per the preset. The expression pedal should not affect the preset until you move it. 

[barbaro]

Absolutely love my H9!

My wish is a AU, RTAS H9 control plugin to recall automatically presets in a session and record midi parameters inside the daw… Using it as an hardware insert would really speed up things in the studio.

And you already know how to work out plugins 😉

Thanks,

Enrico.

[cormallen]

My current wishlist:

1.  Ability to make pressing the hotknob switch to the Tuner.  (I have it currently using an external pedal, but that takes up more space on my board).

2.  Manifold Beta from the Eclispse!

3.  Chorus->Delay->Reverb combo algorithm (with controls for say: chorus speed, chorus depth, chorus mix, delay time, delay feedback, delay mix, reverb size, reverb predelay and reverb mix).

4.  Some glitch / bitcrusher / distortion algorithms 🙂

[Tomviolet]

H9 is such a great product.
Something I always thought about was a general noise gate selectable from the pedal settings. Since you put a noise gate in the latest   EQ Comp Algo I thought it could be possibile to add this feature in the future!
With a general noise gate it would became a perfect pedal for any board 

(and also this would be nice, especially or midi users: 1.  Ability to make pressing the hotknob switch to the Tuner)

[hendrik7]

Any news on an Android app?

[GuyWithEventide]

Global level boost controlled by a MIDI CC.

H9 control would allow you to set the boost level and the CC #.

Engaging it would boost the level of the current preset by the global boost level, while disengaging it would go back to the preset's output level.  

[merkaba22]

Access to the tuner via a midi preset ….

[jbernard54]

merkaba22:

Access to the tuner via a midi preset ….

Just set the tuner to correspond with the correct CC channel. I use my midi controller to access my tuner. 

[merkaba22]

I am too much of a programmer newbie to pick up on the tip — care to elaborate?

[badmelonfarmer]

In H9 control, select "Pedal" in the bottom menu.

select MIDI Settings > "Assign MIDI CC messages to Pedal functions" > select "Toggle Tuner"

Then set the MIDI CC of your choice… The one from your controller that you wish to enable the tuner

[cbm]

Is there a good reason that the patches in a user list are copies of the patch that got added to the list, and not references to the original patch? I find this unnecessarily confusing. It engenders a bunch of list maintenance work, keeping the list and the user patch in sync as patches get edited.

[gkellum]

cbm:

Is there a good reason that the patches in a user list are copies of the patch that got added to the list, and not references to the original patch? I find this unnecessarily confusing. It engenders a bunch of list maintenance work, keeping the list and the user patch in sync as patches get edited.

Well, this is something we might have gone either way on. There were two reasons in favor of making them copies. One, you might make changes to specific presets in a preset list to sound better in a particular room for a particular show, but not those changes to affect all instances of the preset. Two, any list you download from an H9 to your local hard drive is going to necessarily contain copies of presets, because there's no guaranteeing that the source presets are even available on the device you're downloading to; so, it seemed to make things more consistent and hopefully therefore less confusing to always have lists have copies of presets. We have been paying attention to people's feedback about this though on our forum and the gearpage and have been thinking about making some changes in a future release to reduce the confusion and inconvenience that the different preset types have been causing.

[Styrioci]

would it be possible to add following features to H9 Control?

– media playback + something like midi preset change/tempo map – so you can program your whole set with backing track, tempos and preset changes, ribbon controller..

I plan to do the similar thing via DAW on my laptop, but I think it would be handy to have this functionality available on iPad/iPhone or Android devices (in the future) so you don't have to bring your laptop to the show to control your rig during performance (lot of people use laptops and DAW solution to control rigs via MIDI nowadays.)

[metro6audio]

+1 on Spillover. Can be very abrupt moving from one ambient sound to another when the effect cuts. It doesn't have to be long (a couple seconds is sufficient to start getting sounds from the new algorithm).

Also, MIDI clock sync. I posted this on TGP, thought I'd post it here too:

"I want MIDI clock sync to work like the Strymon Timeline. If clock is present, it always syncs to it. You can tap in a tempo change and the pedal will settle back to the clock over a couple beats (handy for warping delay effects). If no clock is present, you can tap a tempo and the pedal will use the taps without mucking about in the settings to disable clock sync. This is especially handy if a) one of your songs doesn't use a click, but others do or b) your band tends to get off click and you have to kill it mid-song, leaving either no delay or out-of-time delay.

I know, the answer is "get the band to stay on click", but that's not always workable and the Timeline's MIDI implementation is really good in this regard."

[merkaba22]

Another idea that might be usable would be for the presets to have a pop-up list of available slots for middi mapping — this would avoid having to remember which preset belongs to which map position as you go back and forth between the imbedded pages, etc. and the Presets list.

[jbernard54]

+another 1 of the spill over. Another awesome (and most likely wishful thinking) is adding the Noisegate on the new EQ algorithms as a menu option to have on with all algorithms that can be turned on and off via an aux pedal, or an option for each algorithm.

[tonyshred]

Please change the pitch shift parameter addressed as a ratio to cents (H910 H949 algorithm)

Other than that I wish you had a H9 control app for the H8000 😉

Thanks for a great product. Long live creativity.

[ROBLEISHMAN]

That tempo functionality would be amazing!

[merkaba22]

I am not sure if anyone else had suggested this, but,as a guitarist, it would be very cool to have global multi-band EQ with say, a "contour" — this way you can fine tune your rig itself and, then, use the contour to adjust to the room …. 

[gkellum]

merkaba22:

I am not sure if anyone else had suggested this, but,as a guitarist, it would be very cool to have global multi-band EQ with say, a "contour" — this way you can fine tune your rig itself and, then, use the contour to adjust to the room …. 

This is very similar to what EQ Compressor offers, no?  Except it's not global.  Is EQ Compressor's custom UI for adjusting the EQ on iPad, WIndows, and MacOSX similar to what you're describing for contour?  

http://ftp.eventide.com/ljdl/www/EQ_Compressor_Screenshot.png

[merkaba22]

I am not sure without sitting with it a minute, but it looks interesting —  thank you …

To be clear, however, the idea is to have the EQ in addition to presets so that you can tune your rig (then add pre-effects) — most guitar tone shaping occurs in the midrange and its a deep place to tweak — the contour allows yo to keep your tone shaping settings and then adjust for the differences in the various rooms of your performances by a turn of an (encoder) knob.

The other thing would be to make an option that the tuner is available by pc as well as midi cc messages

[makers]

This algorithm is getting some attention in the modular synth world. I've requested something like The VST plugin called Live Cut before. Perhaps this one would be pretty easy to implement.

http://www.spinsemi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=290

[Lonny Jarrett]

Well, I might be jumping the gun here because mine doesn't come till wed……But I love the Lexicon PRIME BLUE preset from the PCM 90. Could that be approximated…….? It was killer and I keep the thing in my studio rack for that one preset. Would love it in a pedal……

[Thecomposinator]

First post in this forum, so hopefully it works fine! Sorry if this has been addressed, I didn't read all the posts.

I love my H9 and have a T1m aux switcher which gives me three more switches. It works like a charm, I have it programmed to; decrease preset, tuner tap. With the two buttons on the H9 this covers all my live functional use. One problem, I have to switch presets with one button then press the "activate" button to activate it. It auto loads when in preset mode using the encoder wheel but if using switches the activate button is used to engage the new preset. I wish there was a toggle to change switch preset changes to auto load as soon as you stop scrolling. It's too clunky in the middle of a tune to push two buttons to change presets. 

[gkellum]

thecomposinator:

I love my H9 and have a T1m aux switcher which gives me three more switches. It works like a charm, I have it programmed to; decrease preset, tuner tap. With the two buttons on the H9 this covers all my live functional use. One problem, I have to switch presets with one button then press the "activate" button to activate it. It auto loads when in preset mode using the encoder wheel but if using switches the activate button is used to engage the new preset. I wish there was a toggle to change switch preset changes to auto load as soon as you stop scrolling. It's too clunky in the middle of a tune to push two buttons to change presets. 

In the next release of H9 software, we are going to add Load Next and Load Previous functions that can be used to go to the next (or previous) preset and load it automatically.  This is slightly different than what you described, but hopefully, it will be an improvement for you nonetheless.

[rrinn]

I want "Pre/Post" option like a Strymon Mobius.

[pauliusmm]

+1 on pre/post option

[mrpollack2]

I would like badly to have CC controllable Global Input volume and Global Output volume..First to do smooth swell effect with nice delay/reverb tail ,and second to setup gain boost/drop if needed all via CC massages..

[mrpollack2]

+1 for spillover ! Aslo I would like badly to have CC controllable Global Input volume and Global Output volume..First to do smooth swell effect with nice delay/reverb tail ,and second to setup gain boost/drop if needed all via CC massages..

[mrpollack2]

Of course spillover is a MUST ! (at least one second ! )

I would aslo like badly to have CC controllable Global Input volume and Global Output volume..First to do smooth swell effect with nice delay/reverb tail ,and second to setup gain boost/drop if needed all via CC massages..

[merkaba22]

I second that emotion ….

[pauliusmm]

I second this wish.  Maybe im spoiled by using AXE FX, but there should be a way to control delay input level so you could fade delays in and out smoothly with exp pedal. 

Please add input level to delay effect, or change mix to input level. It would do the same thing only better when fading out delays .

[Lonny Jarrett]

Enjoying the H9 so far. This has been mentioned but an excellent Univibe would be my priority. None of the Mod patches come close. 

[mrpollack2]

I completely agree 🙂

[Lonny Jarrett]

The new Electroharmonic B9 looks AWESOME! How GREAT would it be to have that functionality in the H9! I'm guessing Eventide could achieve better fidelity. I'd love to avoid having to buy another pedal for a functionality I'd use in 2-3 songs in an evening. But what a great function!

[alexone]

I know that the development team  don't like making promise about futur update but a nice idea would be to write a list of the futur features seriously cconsidered with a priority order. For example:  features A and B : next release, features C, D, E: futur release, 

On of the reason is I doon't follow the list anymore, and I don't know what wish have been considered.

Here is some idea:

very important: we need a maximal user control of configuration of the switches (included the three switches on the pedal.

some combo-algorithms for whose use the H9 as the solely spatial fx (delay, reverb, modulation)

and the already mentionned:

The looper, the loopr, the looper, the looper, the looper, the looper, the looper !!!! (and when?)

univibe!

[fog_ducker]

#1 priority for me remains looper!  I just purchased a used timefactor and was disappointed to realize it has such short looping capabilities.  Priority upgrade would be looper for H9, with length improvement.  Undo/redo would be cool at some point.  Question while I'm on the thread.  My H9 and core are not connecting together with my ipad?  They will individually, but whatever one I connect first becomes my only option?  On the ipad itself, it shows that they are both connected in my settings, but the Bluetooth icon only engages on one pedal?

[gkellum]

Fog_ducker:

Question while I'm on the thread.  My H9 and core are not connecting together with my ipad?  They will individually, but whatever one I connect first becomes my only option?  On the ipad itself, it shows that they are both connected in my settings, but the Bluetooth icon only engages on one pedal?

I posted a follow-up to your question on a new thread as I'd like to keep this thread dedicated to H9 wish list thoughts: http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/p/9474/43082.aspx#43082

[merkaba22]

I haven't read all the 200+ posts so forgive me if this has been mentioned but it would be great given the power requirements of the H9, to see, at least one, midi port provide phantom power.

[Styrioci]

is it possible to make H9 Control app to recognize H9 pedal connected via MIDI to audio interface which is connected to computer?

[gkellum]

styrioci:

is it possible to make H9 Control app to recognize H9 pedal connected via MIDI to audio interface which is connected to computer?

Yes, when the "Device not found" dialog pops up when you launch H9 Control, there is an option labeled "Manually select a device".  That will let you select a MIDI port which an H9 pedal (or Factor pedal) is connected to.  There's a bug in the current release where it's not remembering the selected connection and automatically reconnecting the next time H9 Control is launched but that will be fixed in the next release which should be out (for desktop) later this week.

[Styrioci]

am I right when I say that it requires connections in both directions (In/Out) ? currently I have connected audio interface midi out to H9 midi in and H9 Control doesn't seem to recognize H9 pedal. (it seems I have to solder another midi cable)

[nickrose]

You are right – it does.

[gkellum]

styrioci:

am I right when I say that it requires connections in both directions (In/Out) ? 

Yes, it requires connections in both directions.

[Styrioci]

added another midi cable, works fine. thanks.

and I'm looking forward for the "remember midi connections" feature in h9 control 🙂

[madmac]

H9 Control App

Would love a forward and a back button up the top left similar to a web browser to navigate the H9 control app on all pages would make it so much easier to get around rather than having to go to the bottom of the page.

[madmac]

^ I was referring to the Desktop version in the last post.  

I used the iOS version over the weekend and it seems more natural to get around.   I guess there's not many programs on Mac or Windows where navigation buttons are at the bottom of the page.

[pauliusmm]

Vibe algo please! It is such a cool efect when done right. Phaser algo has a hint of vibe, but it is not an ideal vibe sound.

[string6]

Possibility to map MIDI CC values and not just numbers, any intention to do so ?

[gkellum]

string6:

Possibility to map MIDI CC values and not just numbers, any intention to do so ?

What do you mean by this exactly?

[RC2]

Do any of the algorithms have or come with an adjustable click track or metronome feature. 

[mafromusic]

Any chance of Bluetooth control on the desktop? I use my computer for playback during rehearsals so leaving it near the amp won't work

[gkellum]

mafromusic:

Any chance of Bluetooth control on the desktop? I use my computer for playback during rehearsals so leaving it near the amp won't work

We added that in the latest build. ;-). Check the release notes for instructions on how to set things up.

[gkellum]

rc2:

Do any of the algorithms have or come with an adjustable click track or metronome feature. 

No. None of the algorithms have that feature at the moment.

[irock]

It'd be nice if it can have a sitar algoithm

[string6]

Well, the tuner for example – its toggle only responds to CC with values over 63, no ?

I've seen some confusion about this from various users and also, some controllers send 127 when on and 0 when off, so you can't properly use them for the tuner.

[nickrose]

string6:

you can't properly use them for the tune

Not entirely sure why not – the 127 will toggle it and the 0 will be ignored, which sounds like the behavior one would want.

[string6]

nickrose:

string6:

you can't properly use them for the tune

Not entirely sure why not – the 127 will toggle it and the 0 will be ignored, which sounds like the behavior one would want.

First press – 127 – tuner on.

Second press to toggle off – 0 – ignored.

Then
you'll need to hit it third time to toggle off, and next you'll want to
toggle on, twice again (since the first would be 0, and just then 127)

[nickrose]

Your problem here is that your switch is acting as a toggle, not a momentary, so you have a toggle driving a toggle. Is there any way you can program it otherwise ? Our products usually expect a momentary-type switch action.

[MarcoR]

string6, change your IA type from Stomp to Momentary in the LF editor and it should work as you expect.

[MarcoR]

Opps… string6 you're not the other Liquid Foot guy. Sorry! carry on.

[coirbidh_99]

Here's an off-the-wall algorithm idea: a pitch shifter that duplicates Arvo Part's tintinnabulation technique.  The basic idea is that you harmonize a melody note with a tone from a specified triad, with no unisons or octaves.  The available "positions" for the harmony voice are one or two triad notes above or below the melody note.  For example, if you specified your triad as E minor and the voice as -1, then playing a D or E would generate a B note in the harmony, while playing an F# or G would generate an E.  Ideally, you'd be able to select not only the position for the harmony voice, but also whether it was voiced "close" (the nearest specified note to the melody note) or "spread" (an octave up or down from the "close" note).  Controls could be:

-Wet/dry mix

-Voice 1/2 mix

-Triad root note

-Triad type (maj or minor at least, with diminished and augmented if you're feeling saucy)

-Harmony 1 position (-2, -1, off, +1, +2)

-Harmony 1 close/spread

-Harmony 2 position

-Harmony 2 close/spread

…with maybe some filtering controls or independent pre-delay for each voice to use the remaining spots.  It would also work as a single-voice harmonizer with delay and modulation controls.  I've been messing around with this technique manually, and I think it could be the next killer app for ambient players.

[brock]

Quote:

I've been messing around with this technique manually, and I think it could be the next killer app for ambient players.Esoteric, for sure, but nice!  I've been racking my brain on a workaround using common pedals & existing algorithms.  Maybe resonant delay 'drone' through a H910 / H949 or HarModulator.  Dry signal split off and mixed in parallel.  Foot control over Pitch Mix between static triad intervals.  Perhaps an H9 providing the opposite-side inversions.  How are you going about it manually?

I've seen that variable 'capture' /Quantize-type of feature in the Eclipse documentation.  And you can see the results of a fixed pitch quantize in some of the PitchFactor Diatonic / QuadraVox scales.  Check out Whole Tone at 100% wet for a prime example.  So your proposed features are certainly possible.  Intriguing take on an algorithm.

[coirbidh_99]

brock:

Quote:

I've been messing around with this technique manually, and I think it could be the next killer app for ambient players.

Esoteric, for sure, but nice!  I've been racking my brain on a workaround using common pedals & existing algorithms.  Maybe resonant delay 'drone' through a H910 / H949 or HarModulator.  Dry signal split off and mixed in parallel.  Foot control over Pitch Mix between static triad intervals.  Perhaps an H9 providing the opposite-side inversions.  How are you going about it manually?

I've seen that variable 'capture' /Quantize-type of feature in the Eclipse documentation.  And you can see the results of a fixed pitch quantize in some of the PitchFactor Diatonic / QuadraVox scales.  Check out Whole Tone at 100% wet for a prime example.  So your proposed features are certainly possible.  Intriguing take on an algorithm.

I'm doing it manually in the most old-fashioned way possible: playing the melody and the harmony note as doublestops.  That gets tricky with some of the minor/major second fingerings, though, and it'll take quite a bit of practice to be able to improvise with it.  It looks as though the diatonicshift 2 algorithm in the Eclipse could pull it off, if I'm reading the manual correctly, but you'd basically have to set up a preset with a unique user scale for each individual triad and harmony position, which would be pretty tedious.  I'd much rather have someone else code it as a flexible algorithm. =)

[coirbidh_99]

brock:

Quote:

I've been messing around with this technique manually, and I think it could be the next killer app for ambient players.

Esoteric, for sure, but nice!  I've been racking my brain on a workaround using common pedals & existing algorithms.  Maybe resonant delay 'drone' through a H910 / H949 or HarModulator.  Dry signal split off and mixed in parallel.  Foot control over Pitch Mix between static triad intervals.  Perhaps an H9 providing the opposite-side inversions.  How are you going about it manually?

I've seen that variable 'capture' /Quantize-type of feature in the Eclipse documentation.  And you can see the results of a fixed pitch quantize in some of the PitchFactor Diatonic / QuadraVox scales.  Check out Whole Tone at 100% wet for a prime example.  So your proposed features are certainly possible.  Intriguing take on an algorithm.

I'm doing it manually in the most old-fashioned way possible: playing the melody and the harmony note as doublestops.  That gets tricky with some of the minor/major second fingerings, though, and it'll take quite a bit of practice to be able to improvise with it.  It looks as though the diatonicshift 2 algorithm in the Eclipse could pull it off, if I'm reading the manual correctly, but you'd basically have to set up a preset with a unique user scale for each individual triad and harmony position, which would be pretty tedious.  I'd much rather have someone else code it as a flexible algorithm. =)

[pauliusmm]

Eventide, please consider putting Mix control BEFORE the effect input on Space ant TF algorythms. This way would allow to keep delay and reverb trails when backing off mix via expression pedal. Or at least make this an option if someone wants to keep existing behavour. In other words change Mix control to Input gain.

[coirbidh_99]

Here's an early Arvo Part piano piece that illustrates the technique I'm talking about (with score for reference): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYXkunzWeSM

[Snakefuture]

A request for the wish list; Distortion and overdrive models.

[drew11roberts]

My first wish is more for the H9 control, I would like the ability to import multiple presets at one time instead of hunting for each one. I would also like the ability to designate a folder that the H9 control immediately jumps too whenever you save a preset.

I also would like the ability to swap between a pre and post location of the H9 within my signal chain.

Thanks!

[gkellum]

drew11roberts:

I would like the ability to import multiple presets at one time instead of hunting for each one. 

Is this different from what you can do in the preset lists screen where you can save all of the presets off of a connected device by clicking the "Save to…" button?

[madmac]

Is it possible to add the functionality of being able to record audio through H9 connected through the USB cable?

This would be cool digital recording directly into a DAW and using the features of the pedal as a plugin.

[AAgnello]

That would be cool but not possible given the usb chip in the H9. Sorry to disappoint but thanks for the suggestion.

[tommasoferrarese@mac]

Snakefuture:

A request for the wish list; Distortion and overdrive models.

I second that! Different distortion algorithms are a great idea!

[nickrose]

You mean FuzzFactor ? Or DirtFactor. We're thinking about it. But, digital distortion is tough, and distortion in general is very subjective. So, not a small thing.

[merkaba22]

I'd use the OD style as a base for one configuration — include three bands EQ, presence and an option for the gain before and after the "tone stack" and include three trim pots for tuning the OD — Dumble style amps everywhere …

Klon type OD is also very favored as well

[Snakefuture]

It be the only addition that made me consider to buy a second box for,

As is the H9 is excellent (in stereo sounds even better then a lot of rack gear), but much of the algos have a kind of special fx character, that I dont feel the need to stack 2 or 3 off.

Its probably a huge task to make a dirtfactor but a very rewarding one, Adding distortions and overdrives would likely make the h9 much more populair and practical for a lot of folks,

[tommasoferrarese@mac]

I'd think about some different kinds of distortion.. such as Rob Papen distortion or Propellerheads Reason's scream.. like tape, tube, foldback, tube, bitcrush, etc.. 

[coirbidh_99]

The world does *not* need another distortion box.  There are so many more interesting things you could be doing with all that in-house expertise.

[Honch]

I am the only one to NOT agree here! I'll second Eventides stance. TC Electronic tried, but all that tube distortion is elusive at best. All modellers (software plug ins) today tends to have a "sameness" to them. I e regardless how vast and many variations there are, "Fender Twin" or "High Gain", after a while when initial honeymoon has passed, you're left with an underwhelming sense.

I think even tube-screamers today, and all real analog pedals is a kind of one trick pony. No one I've heard are as long lasting as a good tube amps distortion in the long run. I've played with high end boutiqe pedals, and while they are very good, there's something to them that makes you press the footswitch, and de-activate them and go "aaaaahhhhh…." again. A sigh of relief so to speak.

HOWEVER! This is only a live thing, and when playing through them for real. Just listening to them, they all sound good, when someone else plays through them. Even Kemper profiling amp, and Ultra Axe FX tries to nail it, and it is always closer, and closer but no real cigar.

See, distortion, at least tube amp distortion, as opposed to time based effects, has an immediacy and real response and feeling to it, that it is really NOT AN EFFECT AS SUCH, but a part of the instrument. All time based effects later on, ModFactor, PitchFactor, Space, TimeFactor, are time based effects that are USUALLY laid on on the decaying end of the note. And as an effect (as with all effects) should be used more sparingly, than the un-effected sound (i e tube amps saturation and "natural" distortion"). It is very ambiguos rant, but I can run an amp longer, for two hours, on full blast, than ANY preset on any FX-pedal out there. And boost/distortion pedal too. After a while, you get the listening fatigue.

And it is the same with tube-equipped pedals. There's always a gnarl in there, something that is "same same" sounding.

[Honch]

coirbidh_99:

The world does *not* need another distortion box.  There are so many more interesting things you could be doing with all that in-house expertise.

Agree! Totally. Would be nice to see LIKE buttons underneath each posts, so we don't have to post "WORD!!" posts one after another. My stance too. There's 16 to the dozen of'em, each claiming this and that Klon Centaur killer application/sounds…

[cormallen]

I very strongly disagree! 

It's true that the world does not need models of typical analog distortion pedals: there's no point in trying to be a RAT or a tubescreamer when those are cheap and easily available.  However, there are all sorts of interesting things that can be done with distortion: bit-crushing, wave-table lookups (like the WMD GeigerCounter) , PLL tricks (like the Schumann), glitching, stuttering and so forth.

As long as Eventide do something out of the ordinary, I'm all for it!

[Honch]

My thing with distortion pedals COMBINED with timebased effects, and special "out there" phsychedelic, "dry ice" effects, it's that they work badly together. I mostly want a totally clean and clear signal when sent into the H9 or othewise. The gnarls, and unlinearities becomes too much for the H9 to track properly ending up in an ugly signal. The only thing that I (in IMHO) think works, is a tiny bit of regular delay, and a tiny bit of spring reverb. That's it. If I want to go atmospheric, soundscapes, and all these "dry ice moments" I prefer to "print" the input with as clean signal as possible. Maybe – at a stretch – a clean boost or compressor before it. For example, I loathe phase shifters, choruses with distorted signals. A big huge no no in my book. These 80's thing. Sounds out of phase, out of tune, and just plain… bad. But that's a more personal taste than anything else. Each to their own. And with pitch shifting techinqies, there's not any pedal that can track a distorted signal properly. Not even ..tide. But as fast as the signal's clean, I am all game.

[Honch]

Enough of my rants and back to wish list:

I want a STEP PHASER algo.

Way back, on the BOSS SE-70 and VF-1 half rack fx of the 90's, it was possible to make a sort of random and hold in the phaser presets of those units. However, when setting everything the same, they did not sound the same at all. The SE-70 won hands down, because the step phaser added some mallet-marimba transients to the step phaser (which the VF-1 didn't), when resonance was set high, and gave it a certain rhythmic groove or flavor that suited the chords you were playing into it. Combined with delays and a good hall reverb it sounded HUGE, and beautiful. Would LOVE to see that one. I don't know if it fits within the algos of H9 or ModFactor anyway. I saved the SE-70 unit and sold the VF-1 one. Just because of this.

Would also see MORE combined algos. Like combine the chorus(mod)-delay(time)-reverb(space) things into one algo. Not the most outrageous effects, but the more common one combinations.

[brock]

Honch, it seems to me that you might be able to do that in the Phaser algo now.  I don't have that algorithm yet, but perhaps using the sample & hold waveform with one of the deeper phaser types.

I did something similar with filters in the PitchFactor's HarPeggiator algo, and it's one of my favorite presets.  I still have my SE-50 here [sadly, no MIDI sync rate].  I'll need to compare that with the H9 offerings to refresh my memory.  I remember a Stereo Flanger effect with Gate on the SE-50, but not the Step Phaser.

[Honch]

Good to know, Brock! Thanks for replying. I will have to probe deep into the sample and hold. The rate is crucial and the "pace" of the reverb and delays afterwards. The rythmic "marimba-mallets" that dance over the frequency spectrum is addicitve.

That was what I was wondering over. The 2 units from same companies using the same algorithms for this spacey and psyecedelic effect. But it sounds totally different on the SE-70 and the VF-1. Boss that is. I've done numerous A/B side by side tests, but no. The VF-1 where softer and more lame. That's why I wonder about Eventides algos.

[Honch]

brock:

… I still have my SE-50 here [sadly, no MIDI sync rate].  I'll need to compare that with the H9 offerings to refresh my memory.  I remember a Stereo Flanger effect with Gate on the SE-50, but not the Step Phaser.

Note, the SE-70 is what I use, and own, and was talking about. The SE-50 is the one that preceeded the SE-70.  The SE-50 had analog distortion unit, they hadn't solved the digital yet, back then. But the digital COSM and other things on VF-1, SE-70 were bad too, already when they came around. They were critized as too noisy, way too noisy in any distorted settings, high-gain or not. But most of the FX still holds up today, say, if you use all of the units DSP as a reverb, and not all these multi-fx just for the sake of that you can.

MIDI sync rate is also something I wish, on everything, that is remotely oscillated in any way.

[brock]

A couple things come to mind, Honch.  You alluded to the resonance.  Some designs 'cap' feedback well before runaway oscillation.  But sometimes that sweet spot is teetering right on the edge.  Another thing is the 'attack'.  I added some fast attack/short decay to my RandomFilters preset, and it makes all of the difference.  You may be able to do the same thing with a ramp (inverse sawtooth) LFO over the amplitude.

All in theory right now, but I'm thinking primary modulation speed & secondary LFO rate set the same.  Primary modulation waveform shape at Sample & Hold; secondary mod source at Ramp.  High resonance and just the right Phaser variation can't hurt.  (I'll have to try some of this when I get home.)

Now, back to the great "dirt debate" …

[Honch]

brock:

A couple things come to mind, Honch.  You alluded to the resonance.  Some designs 'cap' feedback well before runaway oscillation.  But sometimes that sweet spot is teetering right on the edge.  Another thing is the 'attack'.  I added some fast attack/short decay to my RandomFilters preset, and it makes all of the difference.  You may be able to do the same thing with a ramp (inverse sawtooth) LFO over the amplitude.

All in theory right now, but I'm thinking primary modulation speed & secondary LFO rate set the same.  Primary modulation waveform shape at Sample & Hold; secondary mod source at Ramp.  High resonance and just the right Phaser variation can't hurt.  (I'll have to try some of this when I get home.)

OK, I'll try that, thanks again for tip and fast reply.

[Honch]

Ok here's a wishlist:

1) Enable to power it from USB cable. Only. An USB Power adapter as used for cell phones.

2) Sitar emulator algo. Can't find it on other "factor" pedals. Korg Pandoras PX5D, Electro Harmonix has these. Or any other Indian "drone" strings technique. I e a drone should be heard just when you hit a certain note or key. Sympathetic strings vibrating at certain notes.

3) The MIX as many people have already complained about. Post/pre mix, either through exp pedal or otherwise

4) MultiFX algoritms, as someone said earlier. including me.

5) STRUM TEMPO – instead of tap tempo. Hold any switch -> which mutes the signal -> whack the strings 2-3 times in a row even tempo. This tracks and mails exact tempo MUCH better than any tap switch. Trust me on this.

6) As another one said, MIDI tempo clock, some algos drift way out after a minute or two. Seems that it reads the first two BPMs only and then goes freewheeling…sort of.

[gkellum]

Two requests relating to MIDI PC:

1) Include an option to have presets automatically activate in response to MIDI PC.

I just received my H9 (loving it so far) so there could be some user error here, but using my Disaster Area DPC-8 controller, changing presets on the controller (which fires PC messages) causes the assigned preset name/number to show up on the H9's screen (all good), however the preset is not activated and does not become active when stepping on the Activate button. What's confusing me is the activate button on the H9 won't activate the new preset. The activate led is on from the previous preset, but neither the new preset nor previous preset is effecting the signal (I'm getting a completely dry signal at this point), and the H9 can only be re-activated by selecting and activating a new preset directly from the H9 itself. Regardless of my probable user error here, it would be ideal to have the preset auto-activate in response to MIDI PC.

2) Allow the tuner to be activated with a MIDI PC Message.

This would allow me to put the DPC-8 into bypass (sending PC 0) and have the H9 respond by activating the tuner. Could this be added as an option under Programme Change receive map? This would be incredibly useful for me and make the tuner much easier to use.

[gkellum]

Timmy!:

1) Include an option to have presets automatically activate in response to MIDI PC.

I just received my H9 (loving it so far) so there could be some user error here, but using my Disaster Area DPC-8 controller, changing presets on the controller (which fires PC messages) causes the assigned preset name/number to show up on the H9's screen (all good), however the preset is not activated and does not become active when stepping on the Activate button.

Could you make sure that you have the latest H9 software 4.8.0[1] installed? If you save a preset as activated, then it should load and activate when called up via a MIDI program change. 

[merkaba22]

I have a Disaster Area DMC-6 controller and it controls the H9 just fine and when selecting presets via midi patch changes, the preset is activated.

I'd check with Disaster Area for a software update — also, my DMC-6 was modded to have a selected footswitch position to send a single cc message sent to toggle the H9 tuner … works well …

[gkellum]

gkellum:

Could you make sure that you have the latest H9 software 4.8.0[1] installed? If you save a preset as activated, then it should load and activate when called up via a MIDI program change. 

Thanks very much for the reply. I updated the H9 software to 4.8.0[1] tonight and there is no change. I am just using the pre-loaded presets at the moment and they all appear to be saved as activated. I saved one as not activated to see what happens: when selecting from the DPC-8 it loads as not activated (active LED off), and pressing the activate button toggles the active LED, but still no wet signal.

I did notice that, when switching to a (saved as active) preset from the DPC-8 whilst sustaining a note, as the new preset is loaded I get wet signal from the new preset for a fraction of a second but then it quickly disappears, while the active remains LED on. It seems as though something is killing the wet signal immediately after loading a preset via MIDI PC, regardless of the preset's 'Active' status. Toggling the Activate button does not restore the wet signal, but changing preset from the H9 or from H9 Control does.

Please let me know if I should move this to a new thread – I don't want to derail the wish list.

Many thanks again!

[gkellum]

merkaba22:

I have a Disaster Area DMC-6 controller and it controls the H9 just fine and when selecting presets via midi patch changes, the preset is activated.

I'd check with Disaster Area for a software update — also, my DMC-6 was modded to have a selected footswitch position to send a single cc message sent to toggle the H9 tuner … works well …

Thanks for the input merkaba22 – good to hear from another Disaster Area user. I will look into the firmware and maybe email them about the tuner thing.

Thanks again!

[KCStratman]

I find the H9 unsurpassed in sonic power in a pedal format and the Control app outstanding in a studio setting. Its limiting factor is its elegant but diminutive form. For live performance it is so svelte that it could greatly benefit from 1. Larger LED Billboard Display like the 12 characters of SPACE; 2. dedicated parameter buttons corresponding to all 9 knobs of the stompboxes, plus Hotknob, Mix, and Preset, to have a truly complete onboard control surface; and 3. additional aux switch and expression pedal facility, especially important because of the nature of the parameter controllability of most recent algorithms. Here is my thumbnail sketch for expanding this beauty into a full size stompbox form…

[bodhijames]

I'm putting in another vote for Android support.

Do you think this is going to happen in the future?

Thanks!

[gkellum]

Timmy!:

gkellum:

Could you make sure that you have the latest H9 software 4.8.0[1] installed? If you save a preset as activated, then it should load and activate when called up via a MIDI program change. 

Thanks very much for the reply. I updated the H9 software to 4.8.0[1] tonight and there is no change. I am just using the pre-loaded presets at the moment and they all appear to be saved as activated. I saved one as not activated to see what happens: when selecting from the DPC-8 it loads as not activated (active LED off), and pressing the activate button toggles the active LED, but still no wet signal.

I did notice that, when switching to a (saved as active) preset from the DPC-8 whilst sustaining a note, as the new preset is loaded I get wet signal from the new preset for a fraction of a second but then it quickly disappears, while the active remains LED on. It seems as though something is killing the wet signal immediately after loading a preset via MIDI PC, regardless of the preset's 'Active' status. Toggling the Activate button does not restore the wet signal, but changing preset from the H9 or from H9 Control does.

Please let me know if I should move this to a new thread – I don't want to derail the wish list.

Many thanks again!

Solved it! The DPC-8EZ sends a PC on channel 1 and various CCs on channel 16. I previously had the H9 midi channel set to Omni – setting the H9 to channel 1 solved the preset issue I was having.

[tbif1]

I have a couple of  suggestions for the H9 control app, mainly to do with the preset lists page. 

1. Drag to reorder presets. This could work similarly to rearranging apps on an iPad home screen. Drag from one location to another. Drag a preset in between two other presets, and they shuffle along and make room for it. You could have it so that dragging directly onto a preset either replaces it, or a pop up lets you choose from replacing preset, swapping preset, or cancelling the action. I think this would be much simpler than having to select copy, paste, and swap options from drop down menus. This could also include the option to delete a preset with a small 'x' in the corner of the preset (activated by a long press), similar to deleting apps on an iPad.

2. Tweaking how the 'edit list' function works, as I find it confusing how certain actions can only be completed in certain modes. For example, I can drag new presets into place when I am in edit list mode, but then if I want to re arrange the preset order, I need to save, go back out of edit list mode, select the preset I want to move, hit the more button and then select the required function (copy, insert etc). It is also confusing how it seems to auto save any preset tweaking when not in edit mode, but then you have to save every time you leave edit mode or lose your changes. 

I think on the whole the H9 control app is great, particularly how solid the real time parameter change performance is. I just found the preset list section a bit confusing and maybe not as intuitive as it could be, and I think the drag to rearrange function would help to really change that. Keep up the good work

[tbif1]

I have a few suggestions for the H9 control app, mainly to do with the preset list page.

1. Drag to rearrange presets. This could work similarly to rearranging apps on an iPad home screen. Drag from one location to another. Drag between two other presets and they could slide out of the way to make room. This could also include the option of deleting presets directly from lists using a long press and a small 'x' in the corner of the preset, once again in a similar fashion to deleting apps on an iPad.  I think this would be much easier than having to select these functions from drop down menus, and makes better use of the touch interface.

2. Change how the 'edit list' mode works. I find it confusing that I can only perform certain tasks in certain modes. For example, if I am using edit list mode to drag in some new presets, but then want to rearrange the order, I have to save, exit edit list mode using the back button, select the preset I want to move, hit the more button and then select the function I want (copy, swap etc). I'm sure I might be missing the point of the edit list mode, but it seems strange that I have to exit the 'editing' mode in order to be able to copy, swap etc. I'm very sorry if I have totally missed the point here though.

On the whole I really like the H9 control app, particularly the performance of realtime control, but I just find the preset list section a little less intuitive than it could be. I feel that adding dragging to preset list editing would really help in this regard. Keep up the good work!

Also sorry if this posts twice, I think it deleted my whole post before but maybe not

[madmac]

Totally agree with this ^ I also love the h9 control app but find things like reorganising of presets not very easy.  Dragging a dropping would be a fantastic addition.

Landscape view for new 4.7" iPhone 6 would be great too??

[bodhijames]

I'll keep beating the dead horse…

Android support!

[KCStratman]

I strongly agree, love H9 Control in general, great looking and excellent real-time parameter control, but a few small features are stilted and clumsy compared to standard Windows PC apps including most pro audio interfaces. 1)  ^^^^ Drag and drop of presets within preset lists etc. and streamline the editing menus as mentioned above. Noticeable absence of any right-click functions to rename or edit presets. 2) Expand the darn screen view! (the worst feature of the H9 itself is its small display!) The 3×3 grid of tiles may be cute on a little phone screen but it is seriously annoying on a 27" monitor not to be able to go full screen and have at least 4 tiles across – especially for the stompboxes which employ pairs of presets in banks – the odd number of 3 tiles across constantly disturbs the logical visibility of pairs of presets next to each other. 3) Nomenclature – the big black thing in the middle of the H9 should be called the "EKNOB(tm)!" (Encoder Knob, Eventide Knob, get it?) It is confusing, vague, and unimaginitive to just call it the Knob since it is much more than that.

I second the sentiment for android support and I strongly urge ET to keep and bolster Windows PC support for H9 and all computer interfaced products. Apple is fine for high-end studios and iphone tweakers alike, but the vast majority of existing and potential customers are served best by Windows PC desktops, tablets, laptops, pads and android mini devices. Thanks to ET for being adaptable and responsive to these types of issues, on top of the job of outstanding sonic quality! …and don't forget the idea of Bigger Display and More Controls and Twin Engine for more multi-fx…

[hendrik7]

x2

[Zeppelin999]

More complex alogs, something like "overdrive+reverb+delay". I hope something coming from Gtr 4000, which I have in my studio. Drive, distortion overdrive in particular

[Honch]

I strongly agree too. Reshuffle of presets, and general GUI oft he editor, and rename of certains knobs buttons and parameters. A serious overhaul.

[Nerve]

Digital Optical I/O

[brock]

A granular synthesis H9 Special algorithm.  It was mentioned once early on in this thread, but it's worth repeating (no pun intended).  I think that Eventide could raise the bar here with the extensive MIDI control and stereo configurations common to all their algorithms.  I can think of only one competing product in a stompbox-type format.

The UltraTap algo comes SO close in many respects; especially with multiple parameters assigned to expression pedal / Hotswitch control.  Fold in some aspects of PitchFactor algorithms [Crystals; H910/H949; HarPeggiator].  I'm currently using an 8 Step Program to sequence expression input to a PitchFactor and H9, for very controllable glitch / stutter / grain-like effects.

About all that's missing are the options for grain playback sequences, duration, more density control, …

[tsutek]

Apologies if this has already been wished:

The ability to use MIDI notes for controlling parameters and patch changes. To use notes for controlling knobs > select note number > min / max sets the two states for a particular note control (ie. note on= value x, note off= value y) with the option of toggling between the two states (ie. note on #1 sets value x, second noteone sets value y, note offs ignored). or just enable MIDI note control for all switches and preset up/down if that's too complicated/esoteric 🙂 Or how about controlling pitchfactory pitch values with and external MIDI keyboard? 🙂

[paulscriven]

Wish List:

1. Global Volume Expression Control at Input or Output levels. This is a deal breaker!

 I use multiple H9's, they do different jobs.

2. Global Expression Pedal, e.g. when you move the Expression you get instant WAH regardless of the Patch you are using.

3. Improved Midi interfacing with other Midi Controllers, I have the Liquid Foot JR+ with two Exp Pedals. I am 'trying' to control two H9's, hopefully adding a third.

4. When using USB Connection I get unwanted high pitched noise through Amp.

5. Midi Signals are disabled while USB is Connected, my H9's are a part of a system. I do not want to disconnect them to test programming changes.

6. Are Fuzz, Distortion, etc patches possible with H9? 

7.Transmit the H9 Tuner info via Midi Out, again the Liquid Foot can receive this info and display it.

Thanks! Love my H9's sound.

[nickrose]

paulscriven:

4. When using USB Connection I get unwanted high pitched noise through Amp.

This is almost certainly a ground loop. You could try plugging the PC into the same socket as your audioi, or maybe a USB isolator if it is an issue.

paulscriven:

5. Midi Signals are disabled while USB is Connected, my H9's are a part of a system. I do not want to disconnect them to test programming changes.

Sorry – this is a hardware limitation – nothing we can do.

paulscriven:

Liquid Foot

We are talking to Mr. Liquid Foot at the moment – hopefully things will come of it.

[adamaxbey]

Seconded, especially for the TimeFactor and Space algos. Having the ability to use mix in pre, or as an input / send to the effect allow for much more musical swells via an expression pedal

[adamaxbey]

Apologies, my previous post was replying to an earlier request regarding an option to move the mix control to a pre position – it makes much less sense when it doesn't appear directly after that post.

[marcusm750]

OK, I'm back to beat the dead horse:

1)  Uni-Vibe, Uni-Vibe, Uni-Vibe, Uni-Vibe…

2)  Dynamic Distortion 2 w/ Forced Feedback

3)  sitar emulator

I just plopped down good money (that could've gone towards an H9) for a used EH Ravish Sitar which is absolutely freakin' cool.  OK, not the most authentic sitar sounds but damn close and with a lot more trippy sounds yet to discover.  Definitely getting a Norwegian Woody!

C'mon, Big E!  You can do these for the masses and we'll love you for them.

[hendrik7]

When I'm editing a preset on the fly with XYZ buttons I would like to see the parameters number. The red circle doesn't help much. If I'm editing the Mix I would like to see the number (1-100) – if I editing the Decay I would like to see the seconds(like when editing ModEchoVerb presets) etc.

Thanks!

[gkellum]

hendrik7:

When I'm editing a preset on the fly with XYZ buttons I would like to see the parameters number. The red circle doesn't help much. If I'm editing the Mix I would like to see the number (1-100) – if I editing the Decay I would like to see the seconds(like when editing ModEchoVerb presets) etc.

You can do that now by switching into Expert mode. If you long press a switch, the parameter assigned to that switch will show its values…  Each switch must individually be put into Expert mode…

[hendrik7]

Ah ok cool thanks.

Would be even cooler if it showed the values in normal mode as well. 90% of the time when adjusting on the fly you're only changing the parameters already assigned to XYZ anyway.

[marcusm750]

paulscriven:

1. Global Volume Expression Control at Input or Output levels. This is a deal breaker!

+10000000  Not only for reverb and delay tails, but Crystals in the PF as well.

[hendrik7]

Recently started fiddling with the hotswitch.

Would be nice if the screen would show when you kick it off too. It says HOT + when you kick it on. A simple HOT – would be great.

[Bodde]

I have my H9 for a few days now. My wishlist for now:

-Possibility to combine more than one algorithm. This is my main wish. Hopefully some day this is possible. I think this is one of the big shortages of the H9

-Longer delay times. I would like to have 16 seconds delay. Yes I am looper/delay freak!

-Better pitch shifter tracking for chords. The tracking for one note is good. But playing two or more notes together results in bad tracking even with the 'modern' type of harmonizer. Tracking like the new EHX Pitchfork would be amazing.

I really love the reverbs in the H9!!!

[openmusic]

Hi,

I've been tweaking the user presets and rename (and renumber) the results, did it with success by just rewriting each individual .tide file located inside the Library/H9 Control/Presets… so far so good

When trying to replicate the same settings for my iPad I can not find the way to do that. Particularly if I'd like to renumber the presets and preset lists. I imagine I could erase the complete thing and reenter every set-up by means of the H-9 connected, but what a fuss!

Maybe there is a way I did not notice, please let me know if there is a way around!

Thanks a lot

[joinpobob]

Here are three:

1. Distortion: I know other people have said this, but I wanted to reiterate that it would be really nice to have.  

2. Two Presets at one time: Again, I know people want it, but wanted to add my support.

3. Master/Slave presets for H9 and Core: This could be a pseudo work around for two presets at once.  So, I have an H9 and a Core.  I control them using a midi controller.  But it is hard to keep track of the combinations that sound good.  It would be cool if you could save a "preset" that would have two presets, so that when you could call up that preset, it would load the one preset on the H9 and load the other on the core.  Does that make sense?

Thanks. 

[Styrioci]

do you guys really want eventide, famous for crazy delays, harmonizers, reverbs, mod etc effect, to create a simple digital distortion? there are lot of different, great pedals, analog, tube, solidstate if then something like multi band distortion or something crazy with pitch shifting combination for different EQ bands.

I think it was explained few times, that more presets at a time is impossible due HW limitations and complexity of effects. Rather keep going suggestions for more complex effects, that may have combination of effects that you want to use at once – lot of eventide effects are done in this way

regarding master/slave presets – this can be easily done via Midi just program one (master) H9 to trigger preset on second H9 using PC message when you call presets on the master H9

[alexone]

Total agree, I'm surprised about the wish of distorsion!!?? we all know that digital distorsion sucks. I would prefer that Eventide take time where this hardware could be great: spatial and harmoniser effects. I have the same opinion about compressor which can be really good on this kind of hardware. I might consider, a kind of crazy distortion (multi-band), idem with compressor. But making a classic distortion with the H9 is a waste. In my opinion.

The H9 must be developed where this pedal can be good. And there is much to do in the combined effects (reverb + delay), in the modulation effects (good univibe, not happy with the phaser, flanger) or in low features : wet / dry linked to the R/L channel, gain control, scenes (for presets)

[Normannobdirt]

Global output volume as an option would be REALLY useful .

A polyphonic pitch shifting algorithm would be nice.

Or, a monophonic, formant corrected pitch shifting algorithm would be great.

Obviosuly a combination of the previous two would be great as well .

[tbif1]

+ 1 for a polyphonic pitch shifting algorithm (or updated tracking on some existing algorithms if that was possible). The flexibility of the H9/pitchfactor algorithms with multiple voices, delays, feedback etc is unrivalled, but a number of companies (EHX, digitech, morpheus, earthquaker devices, Zcat) seem to be getting some pretty good results with polyphonic tracking and it would be awesome if the H9 could get on board with that too!

[Honch]

Now since the H9 MAX has been released, I wonder the following:

1. Is it possible that H9 MAX already is full of Algorithms, and can't be loaded with new ones as we go along, finding out new things?

2. Is there's a advantage to old and early adaptor users of H9 to be able to make wishes for algorithms that in the long run, won't fit in in th H9 MAX at all? I mean, is the MAX locked and complete with a set algorithm library forever? It would be mitigating circumstance to old H9 users, that they can continue develop and load new algorithms but MAX can't. So there would be some advantage to keep their old H9s.

[badmelonfarmer]

No, Max is not locked at the current level of algorithms…. Eventide have said that Max users will receive future algorithms as well

[openmusic]

What about an Holophonic or Binaural algorithm? I know it will be only useful using headphones but think it could be a very interesting possibility.

Thanks

[hippietim]

1) Univibe

2) Pre/post routing like Mobius

3) Polyphonic pitchshifty ala EHX POG/HOG/B9

4) Formant

5) Slow gear

6) synths

[Honch]

Not too sure about that. If you should expand the physical dimensions I'd rather have 4-5 Fooswtiches to press on/off and get rid of the back panel aux/switch input, and only use that for exp pedal. I think if one can get rid of the need to have extra footswitches and taking up real estate space, one has won pretty much. I know there has to be room for not knocking adjacent switches on and off, but I think generally speaking with all delay/multifx units 5 proper footswitches are minimum. 2 to go up down in banks/presets, 1 fx on/off switch, 1 tap tempo/or hold strum tempo which is my favorite, and 1 ASSIGNABLE footswitch, for tuner, mute, or whatever else you can assign it to. Looper start on/off and so on.

However, I think in order for those to work you have to make the pedal graduated with "two tier" terrace, that two or three buttons at the top tier, and the rest at the low, so you don't bump into the adjacent ones. But looking at the distances at such footwitches as DigiTechs FSX-3 there are enough space between them.

[Honch]

My last post got lost. I tried to do a proper reply to the one who wished change in physical dimension and a larger pedal with an "own" design that he displayed. However, the pic isn't involved in this reply regardless of that I included it. It can be very confusing as to which post I replied to. Sorry for this, but this forum seems to have som gnarls regarding answering posts that you thought that EVERYTHING would be included…

[KCStratman]

Honch, I had posted a sketch of my concept for a next generation "H99". I would mostly like to see the ability to use both three button aux switches and expression pedal at the same time as with Factor series pedals, a larger display 12 character like the SPACE, internal processing capable of two or three Factor algos in series, and double the looper time memory. I'm sure these are all things ET would love to do if it makes economic sense. The biggest dilemma is whether to force all advanced controls to an external device like ipad or pc tablet and aux switches instead of complete, cogent control surface on the unit itself. One requires the factory to build a more expensive hardware unit. The other requires the customer to buy additional external devices – a portable computer of some sort (yes, that includes iphones), plus triple aux switches – to fully operate the unit. The pro argument being that the user will own those smart phones and tablets anyway. The question is not the quality of ET sound effects, but the feasibility of the vessel that contains them.

Here is my sketch, unless they don't want it seen because it hits too close to home. Actually, I hope my concept is dead on and will materialize in the future…

[jbernard54]

I would really really like to see the ability to connect two H9's together and have them talk to each other better. Especially when using kill dry. I'd be nice if they could take to each other so I could use use a delay and a reverb on kill dry at the same time. 

[cbm]

I would love to see better preset list management in the Editors. Making preset lists is more tedious than it should be, I think. Dragging a dropping presets between lists would be great, for example. 

[gkellum]

cbm:

I would love to see better preset list management in the Editors. Making preset lists is more tedious than it should be, I think. Dragging a dropping presets between lists would be great, for example. 

Well, you are aware of all the changes we made to the preset list editing in the latest release? You can now use drag and drop to reorganize lists in the "Edit List" screen…

[ROBLEISHMAN]

Would it be possible to increase the preset range to 128? I am running a midi setup and that would make it life less messy for me.

[JWaltz]

Are you using the xmit and rcv MIDI Program change maps.

this pgm chg mapping is in SYSTEM mode under MIDI.

This will allow you to

support any preset loading to any program change message? up to 127 ie. 0 to 127.

joe waltz

eventide

[themoonshook]

I'm loving my H9 Max!

I'd like to request the distortion preamp algorithm (or a version of it) from the Eclipse called 'distortion preamp'. The main reason is for the feedback feature, which does this:  'Controls the amount of “forced feedback,” similar to an amplifier feeding back at high volume levels.'

It reminds me of the Boss Super Feedbacker or the Fender Runaway Feedback, but much better sounding and more tweakable.

 

[ROBLEISHMAN]

I'm trying to avoid maps on individual devices, I get confused easily 🙂 

im controlling 2 h9s, a timeline, a korg micro-synth and foot controller, a chase bliss wombtone and warped vinyl, and sending out program changes and clock to a keyboard player and drummer all with a molten voltage master control unit.

because of all these factors I'm trying to keep most prg changes to a 1 to 1 system, for me it makes more sense and I don't have to worry about tweaking in one songs preset accidentally effecting another song preset.

[Honch]

Glad to see so many interesting topics, within this topic!

Since there was one a few posts back that wanted to change the overall physical design of the H9, here's one that had dumbfounded and eluded me for years, regarding ALL stompox manufacturers, and I really think that – while slightly OT – not only a H9 wish, it would be time for ET to incorporate the following design change on ALL their stompoxes, maybe even be the first to proceed like this:

Most, if not all stompboxes has their bottom plate stuffed with rubber pads/feets and large labels of info with serial no, and so on.

Now, if using the pedal alone, it needs these rubber pads/feets, but whenever stuck on ANY pedalboard, all of these rubber things and even design of the bottom plates becomes a problem, when you have to remove the rubber pads, in order to stick Velcro strips on it. Now here comes the thing:

1. Make all pedals bottom plates, reversable! I e just turn them around and screw them back on!

I e when you unscrew it, then the back of the plate is almost always a) untreated surface b) totally blank and clean slate.  If it was possible to make the bottom plate FIT IN with the rubber pads/feets facing inward/upward without touching any circuitry, you should be able to stick as much Velcro on it as you like, without ruining/removing the rubber pads, or labels which produce valid information. Also they would be hidden, and you know where these are for the future. It should be designed to it'll fit snugly, just as snug and tight as the right way. Nothing that protrudes at all. An even level with the rest of the pedal. Velcro strips doesn't have that ability to stick very firmly to rubber pads anyway, and you could even glue them togetther on that blank untreated surface.

If you, in the future, would like to reverse it, for selling it (what!?!?) or use with ther rubber feet on, the ugly glue residue from the Velcro strips will be turned inwards and not visible. You can even leave the strips on, but it may be a 50/50 that the hook/loop will be the wrong way for the next user or pedalboard.

The advantages are probably, that you save the rubber pad/feets from wearing out, and the stickers and labels will not be erased out from anything readable. I found this added design is of no nit picking relevance but actually a valid one that will appeal to many of the full pedalboard communities. When I look at most pedal manufacturers galleries of photos on their websites, they take high resolution photos of all sides of their pedals. Except the bottom of them! Would love to see if ET was the first one to make this happens.

Just remember where you read it first.

I've seen numerous YT clips of how to stick Velcro on Boss pedals, or whatever, but NOWHERE has anyone even tried to flip that bottom plate over and screw it back again, and glue Velcro strips on a surface that is devoid of any rubber. The method works on SOME Boss Pedals, but most ones, ends up with a gap, an glaps, and the bottom plates moves around, i e they can't be screwed back properly the other way around. If there's no YT clip on this as of yet, I think surely no one has thought of this before.

Would be nice if ET was a first on this on all their pedals.

[smilindan]

Reversible bottom plate- great idea. 

[hendrik7]

Now that I've Maxed out it would be nice to be able to arrange the algorithms list however you'd like(within the app).

For example, in Space's algo list I would prefer to keep Blackhole, Hall, and Shimmer as the top three, that way I don't have to scroll down to enter my most used algo's.

No big deal, but would be nice.

[merkaba22]

absolutely a great idea ….

[maxpowersr]

Low pass filter for pitch shifted signals. When shifting up, they can sometime sound shrill.

[st.bede]

I read the whole thread. I about to receive an H9 to add to the holy triumvirate of my factor pedals. I just want to add my thoughts about the OD/dirt discussion. I dream of a OD/dirt factor pedal that would so good as to allow me to re[place the four OD/dirt pedals on my board (Lovepedal- Amp eleven: for light break up, Rockett Pedal- Allen Holdsworth Signature OD: for sweet mid range full out dirt,  Analogman- Sunface: I hit it soft to get a really bright light fizz and, a HBE UFO to do all my Jimi octave fuzz stuff). I also own a collection of OD/dirt pedals.

I have yet to hear an digit OD/dirt algorithm be able to really sound great in the same way as analogue sources are able to achieve. The digital version are useable and have continued to become better but still lack something. I would say that they lack a sense of air and subtle variation of timber in relationship to the input. I do believe that one day this will be overcome.

Trying to see Eventide for the strengths that they have historically demonstrated, I would assume that this overcoming is not Eventide focus. (In my dreams, I imagine that Eventide and Universal Audio combine forces to create the first digital and fully organic OD/dirt stompbox). However, I have not had a chance to try the Eclipse and I do believe that if Eventide is willing to put in the needs R+D they should be able to achieve impressive qualities.

After having expressed my thoughts, I must include that a bit crusher and the feedback distortion algorithm would be cool to have for the H9.

[madmac]

st.bede:

I have yet to hear an digit OD/dirt algorithm be able to really sound great in the same way as analogue sources are able to achieve.

I would also love to see a OD/Dist Factor.  There has been so many try to achieve digital OD with other devices but IMO the only one thats really gets close at the moment is the Axefx 2.  For some reason digital OD's really seem to struggle to sound good especially with slightly overdriven or broken up tones.

An OD/Distortion factor pedal sharing Algorithms for H9 done right would be just downright awesome!

Ive been having fun mixing the EQ compressor with my analog OD's.

[st.bede]

(First, I made a few grammar mistakes in my above post. Please forgive my mistakes).

Second, I also need to explain that I do use and appreciate the dirt that eventide offers in the factor pedals. For example, the saturation with the tape delay and the fuzz with the octave fuzz. These do work well in their contexts.

Peace

[datriani]

Sorry if this has already been posted but I thought it would be cool if you connect several H9 units together via a "central brain" device via the midi in/out.  With a central brain and a new app where you could designate each button on each H9 to a certain function (bank up/down, tap tempo, tuner select, etc.) This could potentially eliminate extra foot switches, midi controllers, etc while having all the units communicate with one another, both ways. 

I have 3 H9 and with 6 buttons that would easily take care of my preset up/down, selection, tap temp, tuner select and an instant "looper mode" button.  You could even make it a small box about the foot print of the H9 so that it sits underneath one of them and has recessed midi ports.  

[jnorris]

 Pre/post preset oprions a la Strymon Mobius would be amazing. Adding the output gain to the expert mode would help.

[jnorris]

Pre post preset options and output vol adjust in expert mode ..

[tommasoferrarese@mac]

there is a thread already open for pre-post option, and your vote there would help.

Eventide have already stated that if enough people ask for it they may implement it

http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/8870.aspx

[brock]

INV (negative) ENVELOPE as a SHAPE or MOD SOURCE selection.

[lordradish]

I'd actually love to seema good,  responsive autowah/envelope,  that can get Mutron-like auto wah,.  The Q-wah settings are pretty useless,  I've yet to be able to get something that is responsive and similar to the classic bass envelope sound. 

[brock]

lordradish:

I'd actually love to seema good,  responsive autowah/envelope,  that can get Mutron-like auto wah,.  The Q-wah settings are pretty useless,  I've yet to be able to get something that is responsive and similar to the classic bass envelope sound. 

"Responsive" might be the key here.  There's something unusual about the Envelope parameter sensitivity across the board.  I can hear the threshold transition points in pitch algorithms.  For a Mutron emulation, a pre-distortion helps (as would an inverted Envelope for the Drive Up & Down selections).

With the Q-Wah, I usually start with:

Q-INTENSITY  99

TYPE  BassWAH

DEPTH  50

SENSITIVITY  50

SHAPE  Envelope

BOTTOM  0

… and set the bottom row Modulation knobs to neutral settings.  But the Q-Wah is meant to be a wah simulator, with a voiced bandpass filter, and possibly inductor influences.  The BassWAH preserves the low end, for a sound that comes closer to a lowpass filter response.

You should be able to get even closer to a Mutron with the ModFilter algorithm [lowpass, bandpass, and highpass filter selections].  That hasn't been the case for me to date; the filters come across as a little weak.  I'll often resort to the Octaver algo in the PitchFactor, and shift up the 100% wet signal an octave higher with an H9.  Sounds great, but alas … largely monophonic.

[KCStratman]

I've gotten pretty good results starting with with these base settings for a classic wah and a more funky vocal wah, either foot swept or as auto wah (envelope controlled).

For a bass wah sound I have worked up this two-H9 combo, starting with Stratocaster neck pickup, tone rolled all the way down.

[lordradish]

Thanks, Brock, I'll have to mess with it and see what I can come up with.

[lordradish]

styrioci:

do you guys really want eventide, famous for crazy delays, harmonizers, reverbs, mod etc effect, to create a simple digital distortion? there are lot of different, great pedals, analog, tube, solidstate if then something like multi band distortion or something crazy with pitch shifting combination for different EQ bands.

My sentiments, exactly. Unless it's something I simply can't get out of the billions of other distortion pedals out there, I'm not really excited for something like this.

[spaceJam]

My wish:

Ability to run AT LEAST 2 algorithms simultaneously, user chooses if Series or Parallel and A->B or B->A order.

[bgrizzmayne]

Here's my take:

I want an H9 to be my jack of all trades pedal. Need a phaser? Check. Need another, auxilary delay or reverb for some weird song? check. Need some pitch/whammy effect? Check.

Why not allow the H9 to be the jack of all trades, fill in the gaps pedal that it is, by giving it more flexible routing, a la the mobius? A pre/post function would be unbelievably useful to a player who wants to use the H9 as the do-everything pedal that it is. I'd by one yesterday if the H9 could do pre/post. 

[nickrose]

Two algorithms – unlikely, for reasons discussed in other posts.

Pre/post – much more likely – a lot of people have been asking for it (see above).

[Honch]

A tiny wish: reverse polarity of current so it goes with the standard plugs of anyone elses especially roland/boss barrel type socket. Center negative please. Still a nuisance to be able to reach for that reverse soldered cable. Or keep in mind that you have to bring that one with you, or the original adapter with you all of the time.

[Poppy]

I agree !

[skywriter]

Here's an easy one (I hope). When using more than one H9, I like to use this arrangement of windows shown below. However, when you switch between more than one Device, the position of the Algorithm column resets to the top of the Algorithms list. For this to be more useful when working with more than one H9, having the app remember the position Algorithm strip for the each Device helps choosing between Algorithms when switching between each Device. Especially when you've got a MAX and the list of Algorithms is very long, you have to scroll through all the Algorithms each time you switch Devices. The same argument also applies to the column for Presets, but you don't into trouble as quickly as you do with Algorithms. Thank you!

[spaceJam]

I have an easy one:

FX Loop.

Selectable on the menu if routing stereo, pre/post, or FX loop.

[sg1sg1sg1]

I would like to see a 10 second (or more!) delay. Great for old school , evolving layered looping/sound on sound.

[nickrose]

So would we. But, it would make the pedals significantly more expensive. Not many people would want that.

[sg1sg1sg1]

🙁

[jbernard54]

I know it's been stated before but I'll get a little more specific. I'd like to see and H9 "elite" or something. I'd be willing to pay quite a bit more to have spillover when changing algorithms.

it really gives a huge knock down in what's going on when you hit the midi switch and all the sound drops out. 

[KCStratman]

Nick, what about modular memory upgrades for those willing to invest in the additional cost?

[Bodde]

sg1sg1sg1:

I would like to see a 10 second (or more!) delay. Great for old school , evolving layered looping/sound on sound.

so would I! At least 16 seconds of delay. Made a topic about this a few months a ago. Eventide said it was not possible for the H9. Too bad! The Eclipse and the H8000 have very long delay times though.

[ROBLEISHMAN]

The ability to map the tap tempo button to the performance button when using midi clock, tap tempo is useless when you are using an external beat source.

[Honch]

Regarding that the addition of 10 second “real” delay would render the unit way more expensive. I can not possibly think of that if you can do a/any 10-20-30 – or whatever – second looper, you should be able to provide just as much amount of “regular” delay without any sweat. What is any delay but a looper fading out quickly? What is any looper but a delay with HOLD function to it? Freeze…

I for one, can’t think of that (in case of say DigiTech units and especially Strymon TimeLine series) anything like that would be more expensive at all. Those other units have maximum 2.500 millisecond delay (too little IMHO) and DigiTech TImebender had 5.000 millisecond delay (still too little), but had 30 second and 20 seconds looper capabilities. Don’t really understand this from a digital memory standpoint. It would – ONLY – if you required to loop with delays, then you have to split dividing times.

When using DigiTech live, one could press the “tap strum” button and wait a long time between the tap, so when you released it, you could play long and exact canon lines and harmony scales on the guitar, in time with drummer, that lasted for quite a few bars. In such circumstancens longer delays than 5 seconds makes sense. Old Lexicon units had 9 seconds delay, perfect for loops, cobwebs of delays, like Robert Fripps “soundscapes” or “Frippertronics”, and you could put them in while playing with any band, as an atmospheric ambient and dry ice moment. I think going above 10-12 seconds would be overkill, but then even old Lexicon JamMan had 32 seconds (with expanded memory). That one had delay/looper maximum at the same time. They didn’t make any difference of it. It was in the 90s. Now it’s 30 years later on. C’mon people. Not rocket science anymore!

– – – –

If I would use such an algorithm, I would have added reverb to each successive repeat in the delay, so the ones that are the “oldest” repeats will sound even further away in a huge hall/space. And the “newest” ones would be dry in your face. Don’t even know any unit from any other manufacturer who does this today. On shorter delays it would make no sense, but on longer ones. Maybe that’s a possible wish?

[Honch]

BTW, regarding the look and functions of the new site. Arhrem…cough, cough, one can’t do edits and one can’t press a “thumbsup” button attached to anyone elses posts. Then we still have provide separate posts like “+1” or “WORD” or “Amen to that”, instead of saving space by just having like buttons.

The forum has gone from bad to superficially better, but in the real world, worse. Maybe that was a H9 Wish too? 😉

 

[Honch]

And on top of this, you’ve removed the possibiity of paragraphs and making spaces through different section, making it all more

 

readable.

 

see?

[Honch]

You could do this spilloveralgorithm, just like Strymon does. Sorry to mention them all of the time, but they have a 5 second rule between switching patches. They sample (i e like recording into a looper, but… not actually looping it) the current patch trails of reverbs or delays, so it actually trails, and sounds, even if you switch to a completely different patch. So whenever you switch a patch, the spillover effect is actually a recording, or “copy print” or “screen print” of the latest notes and effects, that got into the signal chain processed, of the LAST 5 SECONDS. Now, whenever you start to play with the new patch, the old will still sound one cycle around (5 second) in the background, at a lower level. The rule you must keep in mind is that you can’t switch presets in two successions in a row (well you can…but*), because then the 5 second “recording” of the old one will not have had time to fulfill its complete cycle. I e not change more than ONE preset at a time WITHIN 5 seconds. So as long as your delay trails are of max 3 seconds, and the looper is, like, 30 seconds, what’s stopping you?

*Well, you CAN switch presets to how many as you can within 5 seconds, but don’t expect spillover then.

[lmlyons]

First,  you hit a home run with MAX, the carry over of the MAX to any other of the units we own – I can say I have about died and gone to Heaven with the H9’s I have.   That said – 

 

+ 1 on volume pedal.  

+ 1 on MIDI CC data stream reader being fixed so that the H9 can process closer to real time

 

A sample app within the iPAD structure,  we sample something,  add it to the foot pedal and trigger it.  If we want a sample, we lose something like the looper. 

A security feature – if the unit is stolen, we can log in and set the unit to taken.  If anyone loads an app and accesses the unit, it kills its functionality.

A look in feature so that if a signal coming in is affected by another H9,  the new affect will prioirtize how it will affect the inbound effect.   This is to help remove unwanted artifacts. It might only be available for more than 1 H9 – I can see the architecture is set so the upstream H9 is sending data in the audio to the downstream unit.   The downstream unit could interpret the effect in process, and slightly modify its affect on the effect.  Or not..  :o)

 

 

 

[clad666_jack]

Hi everybody,

 

For me, The best think you can add in the H9 is :

 

– An OD/Disto/Fuzz algorythm. It’s could be incredible !

– A Bluetooth connection with Mac or PC, i don’t like rope !

– Why not 2 algorythm in the same time ? 🙂

 

Thanks everybods, i’ll hope you hear me.

[nickrose]

– An OD/Disto/Fuzz algorythm. It's could be incredible !

There are rumors of such things to come.

– A Bluetooth connection with Mac or PC, i don't like rope !

It's already there – see earlier posts for details.

– Why not 2 algorythm in the same time ? 🙂

For good reason – see earlier posts for details.

[gkellum]

An OD/Disto/Fuzz algorythm. It's could be incredible !

We’ve mentioned in a few other threads on the forum that we are working on something in this vein at the moment…

A Bluetooth connection with Mac or PC, i don't like rope !

This works now. Check out the H9 Control manual for more information:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.eventide.downloads/Product+Manuals/H9ControlManual.pdf

[clad666_jack]

This is very good news, thank you for your answers and sorry to rehearse! 🙂

[thelastsandwich]

I would love a vinyl simulator…where you could get all that crackle and pop from vintage records…choose which year 60’s-40’s….

[spaceJam]

You can get some vinyl/lo-fi sounds out of the Reverse and Analog algorithms in the Timefactor.

Space has something similar with the Dynaverb.

Pitchfactor has the synthonizer.

 

 

And I haven’t tried the Modfactor yet, but I know there are some ring mod sounds in it. Pretty sure it will work best than the others.

 

 

[Honch]

It seems by now, since we’ve scrutinized the posts, that too many wishes is like wishing for a preset or a sound that they really can’t come up with – or alternately haven’t found yet – but still are very present in there already anyway. I e lack of editing the presets and maybe knowledge/understanding of how it’s done or what algorithm to use for a certain specialty effect.

It is like the people who owns the H9 (max,core etc) hasn’t really have had the motivation to probe that deep into it, to test for themselves if it’s possible or not. I e like the H9 is to big (advanced) for their boots anyway. While some of it has a nomenclature issue, i e knowing what to call a certain effect or not, I think it’s mostly due to some lackadaisical mentality towards probing deep into editing and rtfm. Which means, to a certain extent, that people are relying too much on factory presets, and if the sound isn’t there readily available, they ask for it around here, moreso like of a “preset” wish, than any new algorithm wish.

They make take they easy way out to ask for a wish, and then the replies back with that it’s already possible. Say, the compressor side of things, people forget. When you have the ducking delay or reverb, just remove all parameters of the reverb, then the Omnipressor is a sole compressor. Sure thing, it makes instant gratification to their wishes but it reveals a certain lack or interest in experimenting, programming, editing out yourself for sometime, before you’d make sure it really isn’t possible.

Or more easily, reading all posts through first. As such, I think the Eventide H9, and the other ones (factor stompboxes) are a little over the top for some people, and they’d better should steer their budget and interests towards something simpler in user interface, and lesser options, possibilities.

Is it possible to have the site consist of a user preset library, for people to upload their patches to? To give out free patches to everyone seeking this or that effect?

 

 

[Honch]

I still think spillover would be such a impossible feature to incorporate since it only runs ONE algorithm at a time. I understand that if 2-3 algorithms should be used, it would make matters worse, but not with one algorithm. The feature may seem unrelated to each other (spillover, algorithm) but really, they are.

[jbernard54]

They stated that spillover woud be more expensive as it would need more memory, or something. So it is possible, I for one would pay double the price for an H9 with spill over. Or atleast faster switching via midi commands, or smoother switching, right now it cuts the wet signal, and takes a second to bring it back in. 

[jbernard54]

The problem is live use. In the studio I can record a different track all day. But live I want to be able to go from a dotted 8 delay, to a sublte tap, to swells, to full on ambient without having the cuts. I switch a lot of presets per song. 

[LA Keys]

I see many asking for spillover, I would too love to have this features for the H9 but I’m pretty sure that it’s not going to happen because of some hardware limitation.

I’m then thinking that with 2 H9s running in parrallel with each their own distinct algorythm it could be possible to crossfade between the two, producing somewhat similar to spillover. I also think that this would be possible to implement as it is somehow similar to the volume control that Eventide is considering adding to the H9.

I believe that a mixture of controls over wet/dry, intensity and crossfade would allow for a much smoother change between algorythms located on 2 different H9, connected in parallel. All this could then be controlled with a single expression pedal or possibly with a preset crossfade time…

What do you think about this?

 

LA

[jbernard54]

Do the space or timefactor have spillover? I just found out the strymon big boxes do. And I don’t really think they compare to eventide’s…

[nickrose]

Depends on the definition of the term. Timefactor will preserve delay tails when you load a new preset. The only Eventide with completely true spillover (meaning two effects running at once during the changeover) is Space.

 

The limitations are that for complete spillover, you can only use half the power most of the time to allow double power during changeover. This can lead to weedy effects if you are not careful.

 

 

 

[metro6audio]

nickrose wrote:

Depends on the definition of the term. Timefactor will preserve delay tails when you load a new preset. The only Eventide with completely true spillover (meaning two effects running at once during the changeover) is Space.

 

The limitations are that for complete spillover, you can only use half the power most of the time to allow double power during changeover. This can lead to weedy effects if you are not careful.

Man, I would kill to have delay and reverb tails during changes. I’d even be thrilled to only have it spill until the input threshold hit a certain point (once I play a note into the new algorithm, kill the tails). Personally, I don’t use the modulation or pitch stuff very often so not having spillover on those wouldn’t bother me, although I know many others do. 

[Normannobdirt]

Any chance of global output level being implemented at some point in the future?

Could the feedback path of the diatonic algorithm be routable/switchable so that it could go back into the pitchshifter (like Crystals, but diatonic)?

Thanks.

[td2243]

For me, the distortion/overdrive would be great, BUT ONLY if it were added to the other algorithms.  It could be as easy as two parameters, (Gain, Tone). 

If it were added to other algorithms, I wouldn’t have to turn say my H9 phaser off, to turn the OD on.  I know it couldn’t be added to everything, but maybe create special versions of current algorithms with a dirt/distortion feature build in as well. 

[panturnio]

Just purchased a H9.

Definitly need exp controllable Output Level and pre/post function.

[joeydego]

+4/-10 capabilities for input gain. A line level effects loop will upset this pedal. Being able to turn the pedal into mono and 4CM would be awesome, too. 

[rlynch]

joeydego wrote:

+4/-10 capabilities for input gain. A line level effects loop will upset this pedal. Being able to turn the pedal into mono and 4CM would be awesome, too. 

I installed metro amp instrument level loops on both my amps  check it out

[nickrose]

Sorry – changes to the input levels require hardware changes. Once the input is overloading, there is nothing the software can do about it.

 

[lmlyons]

Senario…

MIDI Controller (sends primarily CC and program change events) connected to in on H9 One.  H9 One out connected to H9 Two.  Tap Tempo switch plugged into EXP on H9 One.

 

Desire..

Use H9 One as a master midi time clock to H9 Two.  MIDI controller can send CC and program change to both H9’s. In effect, H9 one has somewhat of a merge feature..

 

Issue…

When H9 One is set as master midi time clock, and H9 Two is set to slave, tap tempo works to both devices, but the MIDI Controller changes are no longer recognized. When H9 One is set as a slave, it and H9 Two recieve midi data from the midi controller, and takes tap tempo – but does not send midi time clock to downstream H9 Two. 

 

[lmlyons]

lmlyons wrote:

Senario…

MIDI Controller (sends primarily CC and program change events) connected to in on H9 One.  H9 One out connected to H9 Two.  Tap Tempo switch plugged into EXP on H9 One.

 

Desire..

Use H9 One as a master midi time clock to H9 Two.  MIDI controller can send CC and program change to both H9’s. In effect, H9 one has somewhat of a merge feature..

 

Issue…

When H9 One is set as master midi time clock, and H9 Two is set to slave, tap tempo works to both devices, but the MIDI Controller changes are no longer recognized. When H9 One is set as a slave, it and H9 Two recieve midi data from the midi controller, and takes tap tempo – but does not send midi time clock to downstream H9 Two. 

 

 

It looks like this one is taken care of with the new crushstation midi merge for time clock….  

[Styrioci]

it seems we can delete few features from wishlist

pre/post routing

in/out volume controlable via exp pedal

 

randomzize parameters in H9 control app sounds like fun, even more fun could be if it loads up with random algo + random parameters. everytime you start h9 control app could be surprise – not practical on live gigs, though 😀

[Adamixoye]

I did a brief search and didn’t find this, but a global noise gate (like on the Line6 M5) would be killer…and finally let me get rid of my M5.  (It’s a stupid reason, I know.)

[rlynch]

a killer univibe and updated rotary would be very nice along with a panning algo much like the boss pn2 so when using 2 amps it pans from left to right, awesome in stereo!!

[Adamixoye]

I would love to see:

• A bit crusher
• A pattern tremolo (like Line6 M-series or Strymon)
• More synth
• More dirt
• A global noise gate (which I mentioned a few posts ago, but I wanted to expand the list)

[spaceJam]

Adamixoye wrote:

I would love to see:

• A pattern tremolo (like Line6 M-series or Strymon)

Playing with “DEPTH MOD”, “SPEED MOD” and “MOD RATE” in the TremoloPan algorithm can give you some patterns. It also dependes on the “SPEED” knob.

Also, the Harpeggiator algorithm has some interesting stuff, add an expression pedal and you can get even more interesting results.

 

I second the “More synth”.

 

@Web staff:

THANKS FOR THE QUOTE FUNCTION, it is starting to feel like a modern forum now.

[Adamixoye]

spaceJam wrote:

Adamixoye wrote:

I would love to see:

• A pattern tremolo (like Line6 M-series or Strymon)

Playing with “DEPTH MOD”, “SPEED MOD” and “MOD RATE” in the TremoloPan algorithm can give you some patterns. It also dependes on the “SPEED” knob.

Also, the Harpeggiator algorithm has some interesting stuff, add an expression pedal and you can get even more interesting results.

 

I second the “More synth”.

 

@Web staff:

THANKS FOR THE QUOTE FUNCTION, it is starting to feel like a modern forum now.

I’ve tried to make that work using TremoloPan, with limited results.  Using the S-Mod just doesn’t give the control and customization that you get with even the Line6 units (which I own) or which seem to be possible with the Strymons (which I have never owned).

Agree about the quote function!

[zeroeseight]

Adamixoye wrote:

I would love to see:

• A bit crusher

 

Would love to see a bitcrusher as well with variable sample and bit rates.

[kk66]

Kill Dry on/off available as preset parameter also would be very useful especially combined with the new pre/post features.

[lrebolledo]

kk66 wrote:

Kill Dry on/off available as preset parameter also would be very useful especially combined with the new pre/post features.

 

This.

 

That way you could for instance use a delay or reverb preset in a parallel effects loop (killdry on), and pitch shift or distortion in front of the amp in series (killdry off). This can’t be done if killdry is a global setting.

[tahoebrian5]

Some of these algos are fairly complex. Would be really nice if the demo time was increased.. At least twice as long!

[tahoebrian5]

maybe it would be possible to do a spill over using two H9’s in conjunction?

[kombinateur]

I can compare H9 RingMod to Moog MF-102 and as for the sound it’s as good as this analog beast. But it’s quite fine and where it shines is in it’s digital possibilities. I mean different waveforms, remembering presets, changing multiple parameters at one time by expression etc. But there’s one un-used knob… What about to improve it in a way where Eventide is shining the most: Carrier Tracking (off, 1:1, Octave up, Octave down, 5th up etc…) It could turn the RingMod to be more musical and less noisy if wanted and it would be very unique. This also could not be achieved in analog world.

[ryefield]

The H9 would be complete with an auto volume swell effect like that on the Strymon Timeline and Line 6 DL4. Volume pedals can take up a large amount of pedal board real estate. Are there any plans for this type of effect in the future? 

[jgoldbach]

ryefield wrote:

The H9 would be complete with an auto volume swell effect like that on the Strymon Timeline and Line 6 DL4. Volume pedals can take up a large amount of pedal board real estate. Are there any plans for this type of effect in the future? 

A swell setting is now available by preset, allowing you to use your expression pedal as a volume swell or expression pedal. Hope this helps. 

[gkellum]

ryefield wrote:

The H9 would be complete with an auto volume swell effect like that on the Strymon Timeline and Line 6 DL4. Volume pedals can take up a large amount of pedal board real estate. Are there any plans for this type of effect in the future? 

UltraTap has a preset called UltraSwell that has an auto volume type of effect.  BadMelonFarmer posted an audio example of this preset on thegearpage in response to a similar query.  Here's what he posted:

[badmelonfarmer]

gkellum wrote:

ryefield wrote:

The H9 would be complete with an auto volume swell effect like that on the Strymon Timeline and Line 6 DL4. Volume pedals can take up a large amount of pedal board real estate. Are there any plans for this type of effect in the future? 

UltraTap has a preset called UltraSwell that has an auto volume type of effect.  BadMelonFarmer posted an audio example of this preset on thegearpage in response to a similar query.  Here's what he posted:

From memory that is the stock factory preset.

You can tune the effect to taste quite easily by altering the “Swell” value on the “Chop” button.

[Adamixoye]

Is there any reason you couldn’t expand the concept of the Pre/Post routing with “Linked” and “Toggle” options?

For example, for a given preset, “Linked” would mean that when the H9 effect is engaged, the effect passes through the H9 and FX loop but when you bypass the H9 it bypasses the loop as well (straight from Input 1 into Output 2)?  For “Toggle” it would be the opposite.  When the H9 is bypassed it is routed through the FX loop, but when the H9 is engaged the FX loop is bypassed.  Obviously you would also have a “Normal” option for how the H9 functions right now.  These three choices (Normal, Linked, Toggle) would only be a second layer of options that you have if the pre/post feature is enabled, and all three would each work with pre or post.

[gchilders]

It would be really cool to have a “compare” button that toggles between the changes you’ve just made to a preset and the original preset so we could A/B before saving changes. 

 

[st.bede]

A set of waveforms to oscilate peramiters per preset would be useful, maybe even a step sequencer. Also a complex set a filters would be cool. I like the eq and it is very nice but, I can not set up really extreme eq for fx.

[tahoebrian5]

Just thinking out loud here, what I really want out of a ducked delay is a delay that ducks when I pick fast passages, so based on the duration between transient spikes. I think that would be infinitely more useful than a traditional duck

[robinbowes]

Any chance of a good Vibe algo?

[robinbowes]

robinbowes wrote:

Any chance of a good Vibe algo?

In case anyone was wondering, that was meant to be Univibe not University!

[robinbowes]

robinbowes wrote:

Any chance of a good Vibe algo?

In case anyone was wondering, that was meant to be Univibe not University!

[coirbidh_99]

Now that we’ve got the pre/post and wet/dry options up and running, a great additional option would be a mono effects loop: your signal comes into the L input, is effected by the H9/Factor, the 100% wet signal is sent through the L output and returned through the R input, and then immediately mixed with the dry signal using the Mix control for output at the R output.  This might only really make sense for Space and TimeFactor (and related H9 algorithms), but it would provide a great way to post-process your effected signal with outboard gear and then use the pedal as a mixer to recombine.  For looping (infinite delay, infinite reverb, or Looping algorithm), in particular, this would be a hugely useful feature.  You could fake it at present with the wet/dry feature and an outboard mixer, but it would be really handy to have it all work within the pedal.  For bonus points, give us an option to put the effects loop *inside* the feedback path of delay and reverb algorithms, for cascading effects.

[spaceJam]

coirbidh_99 wrote:

Now that we’ve got the pre/post and wet/dry options up and running, a great additional option would be a mono effects loop: your signal comes into the L input, is effected by the H9/Factor, the 100% wet signal is sent through the L output and returned through the R input, and then immediately mixed with the dry signal using the Mix control for output at the R output.  This might only really make sense for Space and TimeFactor (and related H9 algorithms), but it would provide a great way to post-process your effected signal with outboard gear and then use the pedal as a mixer to recombine.  For looping (infinite delay, infinite reverb, or Looping algorithm), in particular, this would be a hugely useful feature.  You could fake it at present with the wet/dry feature and an outboard mixer, but it would be really handy to have it all work within the pedal.  For bonus points, give us an option to put the effects loop *inside* the feedback path of delay and reverb algorithms, for cascading effects.

 

 

 

I totally agree with that and actually I was hoping that being added in the last update. Same as the fake series delays “hack” with the Timefactor.

 

It would be awesome if we could have that as a per-preset option for all of the time-based algorithms.

[BOMF]

Kill Dry on/off available as preset parameter Is must!
There are so many algorithms in one pedal and many of them do and don’t work in a parallel loop.
I have asked for this in the past but the response was it was not very likely to happen.
Now with the wonderful addition of the pre/post feature it seems like a no brainier.
Is this even possible?
Thank you

[nickrose]

It's certainly possible and not too difficult. We'll add it to the Wish List.

 

[khuko]

I don’t know if this has already been suggested.. Can you guys add the feature to enable trails/or no trails per preset when dsp & dsp+fx is selected on BYPASS mode?

[tonyshred]

khuko wrote:

I don’t know if this has already been suggested.. Can you guys add the feature to enable trails/or no trails per preset when dsp & dsp+fx is selected on BYPASS mode?

+1 for this one.

[Adamixoye]

I saw I had posted this in another thread a while back but I guess it should go here.  It was for a Pitchfactor and Modfactor but I’m now the owner of a pair of H9s.  Basically the idea is that some of the deep menu options would be nice to access by MIDI, but ESPECIALLY cycling the input source (guitar vs. bass).

I have a Pitchfactor and Modfactor on my effects board that I use for both guitar and bass.  One feature I would really like to see in a Factor series/H9 update is the ability to change the “source input” via a MIDI CC rather than needing to do this by digging into the menus.  In particular, as I use MIDI Designer on an iPad (using adapters to get to the physical MIDI connection), I could set up one meta-command to give the command for both units.

I would be interested in MIDI CC for other options (turn on/off MIDI clock?, etc.), but changing the input source is by far the thing I would really like to be able to control without doing a menu dive.

[st.bede]

I would love to see a killer bit crusher. Also I came across a envelope filter with a phaser (pigtronix). (As I have mentioned before, bi pole filters, running in either parallel or series with tempo synched LFOs, would become a very loved feature. Why should EDM musicians have all the fun)?

[Send2george2]

Would a “recently used algorithms” option be possible on the iPad app, or a search function….I’ve got a max and whilst tinkering often forget where a particular algo is located.

[blooddeep]

Algorithms to be updated or added to:
BiPhase- ability for dual adjustable LFO using bottom control row
TZF Flange- negative TZF mode so that u don’t need to plug into input 1 output 2
Uni vibe- seems commonly asked favorite

I agree about some form of spillover ability even if not “true” 100%

[robinbowes]

I’d like to see a decent sitar algorithm.

R.

[irock]

robinbowes wrote:

I’d like to see a decent sitar algorithm.

R.

I asked for this last year

[lmlyons]

First, I am still overwhelmed that the last update completed my performance needs. The midi clock change functionality, along with volume pedal additions i use many, many times in an evening.

The sitar request made me think a bit. If one puts their mind to it, the current toolset plus a timbre mod tool could be tweaked just slightly to add a mandolin (pitch shift) or a banjo algo. One could imagine a string based country (meaning a country like England or Greece or the U.S.). heritage collection where a timber or pitch shift could do the trick to modify a guitars sample stream. Maybe anyway.

As always, very best regards and thank you for such a solid product and vision Eventide Team.

LL

[blooddeep]

Sorry I forgot one that’s also been brought up & easily doable;
to have Both Series & Parallel for dual delays be selectable via preset. Especially most current effects are giving these options for delay.

[maxpowersr]

Blooddeep wrote:

Sorry I forgot one that’s also been brought up & easily doable; to have Both Series & Parallel for dual delays be selectable via preset. Especially most current effects are giving these options for delay.

 

Yes. Series routing (internally) would be a nice addition.

[PickPocket]

I posted this in the sticky thread for expression pedal requests, but thought I would post here as well since I am not sure which thread is the most appropriate.

I would like to be able to…

1. Select an active patch.

2. Cue a second patch.

3. Use the aux switch to toggle between the two patches.

 

[Dario]

Ok, It would be a dream to find these two new algorithms on the H9 :

– 7 VOICES Resonator ( instead of 4 voices ) with two modes : Chromatic ( take a look to the Lexicon PCM 80)  and Chordal. In this last one, the Resonator/filter frequencies will be set automatically based on a setting for a Chord type. A base frequency scales all seven voices to any pitch/key. 

-7 VOICES Pitch shifter (insted of 4 voices), every single pitch voice will have a maximum delay time of 6 seconds

Who know if it will become real one day

[javiceres]

Dario wrote:

Ok, It would be a dream to find these two new algorithms on the H9 :

– 7 VOICES Resonator ( instead of 4 voices ) with two modes : Chromatic ( take a look to the Lexicon PCM 80)  and Chordal. In this last one, the Resonator/filter frequencies will be set automatically based on a setting for a Chord type. A base frequency scales all seven voices to any pitch/key. 

-7 VOICES Pitch shifter (insted of 4 voices), every single pitch voice will have a maximum delay time of 6 seconds

Who know if it will become real one day

 

I totally agree wth the Pitch Traking Comb Filters and I’d add Pitch Tracking Moog/Oberheim stlye flters as well… or both combined.

Pitch Traking FX are Eventide’s, isnt it ?

[nowvisiting]

Is there a way to have the reverb tail or repeats of a delay remain on while accessing the tuner? It’d be great to have the output remain on, while the input is being used by the bypassed tuner.

[nickrose]

Sorry – you would think that this should be possible, but in practise these are both algorithms (the Tuna is an algorithm like any other), and when a new one is loaded, the delay is cleared, which means no hangover.

 

[nowvisiting]

nickrose wrote:

Sorry – you would think that this should be possible, but in practise these are both algorithms (the Tuna is an algorithm like any other), and when a new one is loaded, the delay is cleared, which means no hangover.

 

 

Oh, bummer. Do you think it’s possible sometime down the line or is that simply a hardware limitation? Not enough memory or processing power to handle that as a parallel process?

[jezzbro]

Would be great if the tape echo setting could have a 4 head configuration. each with it’s own delay time, level, feedback. (even if the max delay time stays the same.)

Also if possible a filter knob that can both go darker (like it is now) and on the other half more bright, more low and mids filtered out and more grainy.

(knob at centre = neutral, to the left = darker, to the right is brighter)

Echorec anyone? 🙂

[javiceres]

jezzbro wrote:

Would be great if the tape echo setting could have a 4 head configuration. each with it’s own delay time, level, feedback. (even if the max delay time stays the same.)

Also if possible a filter knob that can both go darker (like it is now) and on the other half more bright, more low and mids filtered out and more grainy.

(knob at centre = neutral, to the left = darker, to the right is brighter)

Echorec anyone? 🙂

That would be KING !!!
I’ve been thinking about that forever.

Plus:

Click / metronome for the looper in BPM mode.

The capability of freezing one or the two delays in TFactor algorythms. Wich would be specially awesome if serial routing is allowed for the delay algos.

[Styrioci]

Some time before H9 was released someone asked if it’s possible to send receive digital in/out with factor series pedals. If I remember correctly reply was it’s just SW thing – does it still apply to H9, is it something what you consider to do in the future? It could be handy feature for studio use of H9

[gkellum]

styrioci wrote:

Some time before H9 was released someone asked if it's possible to send receive digital in/out with factor series pedals. If I remember correctly reply was it's just SW thing – does it still apply to H9, is it something what you consider to do in the future? It could be handy feature for studio use of H9

By "it's just SW thing", I assume you mean that it's just a software thing…  No, it's not really just a software thing.  We'd need to put in a chip to handle digital I/O that could generate a clock source among other functions.  We might do something like this in the future.  Who knows…  We've talked about it but it's not something we're working on now or have scheduled now.

[jaykokoro]

On Unit Algorithm changing please!! please!! Please!! I don’t want to always have to open my phone or laptop to access one of the many sounds of this pedal. It’d be great if I could change a tape echo to a digital delay on the unit without having to find a digital preset! 

[gkellum]

jaykokoro wrote:

On Unit Algorithm changing please!! please!! Please!! I don't want to always have to open my phone or laptop to access one of the many sounds of this pedal. It'd be great if I could change a tape echo to a digital delay on the unit without having to find a digital preset! 

You can do that now.  If you press the Preset switch on the H9 twice, it switches to algorithm selection mode.

[st.bede]

Owing Roland gear and Lexicon rack gear, that had digital ins and outs, I was surprised in the limited usefulness of those ins and outs. I did not notice much of a difference when I ran the stuff just into my analog rack stuff and mixer versus keeping it “pure and in the box”. However my gear, mixer, and A/D convertors were of strong quality. I ended up wanting to use my analog stuff to fatten up and eq things anyway. I am not saying that straight wire approach is not useful or for some setups very cool, I am just throwing in my limited experiences based on my approach to things.

[BarneyBrown]

This has possibly been mentioned here or elsewhere already, but a Granular Synthesis algorithm on the H9 would be fantastic. Something similar to the Red Panda’s Particle pedal for example.

It looks like some basic granular synthesis can already be achieved using the looper. See the following links:

1. https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/stompboxes/granular-capture-playback-h9-timefactor-looper

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdDMILlhnRw

This sugests that the building-blocks for a Granular Synthesis algorithm may already be there.

The algorithm would ideally have control over the density of the grains (I think this effectively inserts silence between the grains – less silence = more dense).

The algorithm would ideally contain distortion, an LFO, pitch and/or delay for ultimate noise-making, splicing/glitching heaven.

[laurent-fr31]

One big enhancement I would love in the tuner would be the possibility to define alternate tunings (for instance drop B, ie define appropriate tuning per string and not provide only the chromatic value) and even more important for me, the possibility to define sweetened tuning, i.e. my 6th string is a E minus xx cents, my 5th string a A minus yy cents, etc. as it is possible in Peterson and Sonic Research tuners for instance.
Definitely, then I would remove my tuner from my pedal board !!!

[909one]

Sorry If these have already been mentioned, but I’ve got two ideas for the list. 

1. Being able to select what input the tuner defaults to while in Pre/Post mode would be awesome. I generally put my H9 last in the chain, but it would be awesome if I could have the unit automatically switch to PRE while engaging the tuner, so it would be first in my chain while tuning, muting everything before the tuner. Sometimes I leave loops going with other pedals while I tune and this would be ideal. 

2. It would be awesome if could you set an expression pedal to be a universal volume pedal even when there isn’t a preset engaged. It would be cool to have this ability to set it pre or post effect as well. 

And, I saw some requests for a Gran Synthesis App… I think that would be a most welcome addition!

THANKS!

 

[rrinn]

I want a Convolution Reverb algorithm! 😀

[BarneyBrown]

Yes! I think a convolution reverb and/or granular synthesis algorithm would get a whole load of new people buying the H9 who don’t currently have one (as these effects are very difficult to find in pedal-format and I get the impression they’re fairly sought-after among musicians too). I imagine they wouldn’t be easy to develop though.

[lordradish]

Granular synthesis would be really cool.

No disrespect intended to all of the hard-working folks at Eventide, but there are plenty of bitcrushers, distortions, and such out there, and even a lot of the things on Timespace can be done pretty easily with other pedals… I’d really like some algorithms that just don’t sound like anything else, out there. Some new-sounding synthesis, for example. Part of why my H9 is so crucial to my pedalboard setup is exactly because of those special Eventide things… more of those, please!

[irock]

Sitar

[marcusm750]

irock wrote:

Sitar

A sitar emulator would be awesome.  I bought my EHX Ravish Sitar for the same reason most people do: to play Norwegian Wood.  I was convinced going in it would be a one-trick pony but I was so wrong.  The droning is very hypnotic and, after playing for a while, you completely forget it’s “just” a guitar.  Highly inspiring, exotic while remaining familiar and always loads of fun!  A great sound that never gets tiring.

See, Big E?  I’m layin’ off the Uni-Vibe requests. 

 

[Bodde]

Never going to happen unless you have midi. And even then it is so so…I play sitar myself for many years so I ought to know

[cormallen]

Two requests:

1.  Could we have something close to the Manifold Beta algorithm?

2.  Could we have access to more parameters for the existing algorithms?  (There are all sorts of parameters that must exist under the hood: envelope shapes for the synth algorithm, center frequencies for phasers and so forth).  Could we have a ‘Page 2’ kind of thing that could make them available?  (Sort of how the Eclipse has basic and expert levels of editing).

[eustacius]

+1 for the granular. This would definitely make the H9 stand out.

Programmable filter with lfo, notch, low & high pass, resonance and the sort. Being able to set these parameters to sweep independently would also be awesome for synth.

Dedicated tremolo with programmable rythm-effects

and +1 for different tunings

Tripple delay with sync and option for running the delays in parrallel or seriel

+1 for access to more (hidden) parameters [Perhaps a dedicated midi hardware controller could be an interesting addon]

[jnorris]

The tracking can be glitchy at times. It would be nice if that got a bit cleaner. Other than that, it works pretty amazingly. Outside of having 4 more H9s, I don’t know what else I need.

[dedeman]

Studio Quality Multiband Compressor (+Basic Parametric 3band EQ)

I know there is an EQ/Compressor algo, but that is more like and EQ with limited compressor settings.

I would really like a studio quality multiband COMPRESSOR. EQ (pre/post comp would be a plus, of course). Maybe a TILT EQ with selectable center frequency point?

[lordradish]

Some great ideas, here, for sure, but at the risk of redundncy…. please give us something we simply can’t get, elsewhere. Do we really need another bitcrusher or delay? We already have a billion delay options in this pedal.

[Adamixoye]

lordradish wrote:

Some great ideas, here, for sure, but at the risk of redundncy…. please give us something we simply can’t get, elsewhere. Do we really need another bitcrusher or delay? We already have a billion delay options in this pedal.

I don’t feel like there are so many bitcrushers out there that I wouldn’t want one—I would like to see Eventide’s take on one, or some sort of waveshaper (like a Geiger Counter).  Even if similar products exists, you would still get Eventide prests, MIDI control, etc.  And it would cover new ground for the H9 even if it’s not a 100% revolutionary sound.

But I agree on delays and reverbs in particular—I’m not sure what new ground we really need here.

[Bodde]

lordradish wrote:

Some great ideas, here, for sure, but at the risk of redundncy…. please give us something we simply can’t get, elsewhere. Do we really need another bitcrusher or delay? We already have a billion delay options in this pedal.

I am thankful for everything we get. I am happy Eventide is still updating and further developing the H9 instead of bringing out another similar machine. One can’t have enough delays! would like to see more combined algos like Spacetime in the future. An overdrive with a delay plus pitch shifter would be awesome. Basicly I want a delay with every algo purely for the combination with the other effects.

 

[jnorris]

If possible, another multi algo combining crushstation with delay, or just any multi possibilities. Multi-algos will greatly bring attention to this lovely device from those who instantly wrote it off for being a one at a time pony. Just my 2 cents.

[Cirkus]

What about an agorithm based on AM synthesis? It would be awsome if we could track the pitch from the guitar and intonate the mod oscillator with it as it is or transported in order to have great control on the harmonic content.

[sergicalhands]

I run the H9 in pre/post mode. So not every effect sounds good with the kill dry on, cant use it in pre mode. Why isnt this an option??????

[dedeman]

1. Noise Gate + Compressor + EQ

2. Noise Gate (professional, not noisy, not intruding, usable, taking advantage of pre/post routing)

3. Studio Quality Parametric EQ + Tube Mild Harmonic Distortion

4. Studio Quality Valve Preamp (why not liven up a guitar tone instead of using sterile transparent processing?)

[Styrioci]

having something siomilar to EHX MEL9 available in H9 with Eventide touch to it would be realy cool 😉

[lordradish]

styrioci wrote:

having something siomilar to EHX MEL9 available in H9 with Eventide touch to it would be realy cool 😉

I just ordered my MEL9, yesterday, but basically, yes…in the sense that it’d be great to have things that aren’t simply available, elsewhere.

[ChamomileShark]

as a synth player I’d appreciate a good frequency shifter. I’ve several in software and suprisingly the one I liked best was the one Arturia had in the Moog Modular – most of the rest aren’t so good. Analogue units I think are very expensive and most of the modular ones I came accross were a bit more expensive, were digital and sometimes problematic. So a decent frequency shifter on an H9 would be very nice.

[KCStratman]

It has been mentioned in various ways before, but refining the Tuner with a dampened slow hold mode of even a few dozen more milliseconds would help greatly. The Tuner is just so very sensitive and quick reacting that is is often very difficult to use quickly and easily as a practical tuner. The H9 Control tuner dispay looks great on a full size monitor but could still use the slow damped button. I would consider the Korg PitchBlack Plus pedal or the Korg Toneworks DTR rack series tuners to be the ultimate tuning action and display characteristics to emulate. Thanks!

[dcialone]

Is it possible to add a violin or cello voicing with the synthonizer algorithm? One that can play single notes? Thanks!

[autopoiesis]

I’m not particularly interested in having to use an iOS device to tweak presets, and while I have a many-knobbed MIDI controller that should be a good match for H9, I find it frustrating that the LED display only shows the *value* of the parameter that is changing in response to a MIDI CC message. When the 10 parameters mean rather completely different things from one algorithm to the next and the only visual feedback from externally mapped knobs is the value response, it sounds to me like trying to paint in the dark.

I would be happy to hear that this is already possible, as it’s the one thing that makes me uncertain about buying an H9. If it’s not possible, and if it wouldn’t be possible or desirable to always show an abbreviated parameter name in response to an incoming CC message stream (either before the value changes are displayed or next to them), then at least making it possible to map a “display parameter name” function to CC messages would allow an external workaround.

Sorry for the rant and the iLuddism. Just doesn’t fit into my workflow. So this is my (possibly also on behalf of those who want to bring more tactile control to an H9) wish!

[nihad]

Autopoiesis wrote:

I’m not particularly interested in having to use an iOS device to tweak presets, and while I have a many-knobbed MIDI controller that should be a good match for H9, I find it frustrating that the LED display only shows the *value* of the parameter that is changing in response to a MIDI CC message. When the 10 parameters mean rather completely different things from one algorithm to the next and the only visual feedback from externally mapped knobs is the value response, it sounds to me like trying to paint in the dark. I would be happy to hear that this is already possible, as it’s the one thing that makes me uncertain about buying an H9. If it’s not possible, and if it wouldn’t be possible or desirable to always show an abbreviated parameter name in response to an incoming CC message stream (either before the value changes are displayed or next to them), then at least making it possible to map a “display parameter name” function to CC messages would allow an external workaround. Sorry for the rant and the iLuddism. Just doesn’t fit into my workflow. So this is my (possibly also on behalf of those who want to bring more tactile control to an H9) wish!

 

+1

this is essential!

[Adamixoye]

I’ve posted some of these before, but my biggest requests would be as follows:

(1) Some sort of global noise gate that could be used with any algorithm, pre/post options would be nice

(2) That the next algorithms are not based on EQ, modulation, delay, or reverb…I want something new, unique, and weird.  Synth, pitchshifting, another dirt that is different from Crushstation, etc.

(3) Assignable MIDI controls to global and per-patch backpage parameters, like source select (guitar, bass, synth), pre/post routing, etc.

(4) Additional FX loop routing options that are separate from pre/post, that is, they can each be used in pre/post mode and are on a per-patch basis:

(a) Normal – as things are now

(b) Linked – when the H9 is bypassed, the loop is also bypassed; when the H9 is engaged, the signal passes through the loop (useful for turning on a bunch of effects all at once)

(c) Toggle – when the H9 is engaged, the loop is bypassed; when the H9 is bypassed, the signal passes through the loop (e.g., a distortion is in the loop, and you want to switch to clean when you engage a delay on the H9 but turn the delay off and engage the distortion).

[bollenator]

Adamixoye wrote:

I’ve posted some of these before, but my biggest requests would be as follows:

(1) Some sort of global noise gate that could be used with any algorithm, pre/post options would be nice

(2) That the next algorithms are not based on EQ, modulation, delay, or reverb…I want something new, unique, and weird.  Synth, pitchshifting, another dirt that is different from Crushstation, etc.

(3) Assignable MIDI controls to global and per-patch backpage parameters, like source select (guitar, bass, synth), pre/post routing, etc.

(4) Additional FX loop routing options that are separate from pre/post, that is, they can each be used in pre/post mode and are on a per-patch basis:

(a) Normal – as things are now

(b) Linked – when the H9 is bypassed, the loop is also bypassed; when the H9 is engaged, the signal passes through the loop (useful for turning on a bunch of effects all at once)

(c) Toggle – when the H9 is engaged, the loop is bypassed; when the H9 is bypassed, the signal passes through the loop (e.g., a distortion is in the loop, and you want to switch to clean when you engage a delay on the H9 but turn the delay off and engage the distortion).

I liked all of Adamixoye’s ideas, but #3 in particular is right at the top of my list – for those of us using pre/post routing and MIDI, the ability to change pre/post for the current patch via MIDI opens up a whole new level of sonic options, since with a press of a button I could move my delay patch from after my OD to before and get a totally different sound.  And since I use two H9s, both in pre/post, the possibilities increase exponentially.

Yes, I could just have duplicates of all my patches, each being either pre or post, but that’s not only clunky and hard to manage, it’s just inelegant for such a flexible, MIDI-enabled pedal.

Anyway, I didn’t want this idea to get buried in months past.  🙂

[Adamixoye]

Bollenator wrote:

Adamixoye wrote:

I’ve posted some of these before, but my biggest requests would be as follows:

(1) Some sort of global noise gate that could be used with any algorithm, pre/post options would be nice

(2) That the next algorithms are not based on EQ, modulation, delay, or reverb…I want something new, unique, and weird.  Synth, pitchshifting, another dirt that is different from Crushstation, etc.

(3) Assignable MIDI controls to global and per-patch backpage parameters, like source select (guitar, bass, synth), pre/post routing, etc.

(4) Additional FX loop routing options that are separate from pre/post, that is, they can each be used in pre/post mode and are on a per-patch basis:

(a) Normal – as things are now

(b) Linked – when the H9 is bypassed, the loop is also bypassed; when the H9 is engaged, the signal passes through the loop (useful for turning on a bunch of effects all at once)

(c) Toggle – when the H9 is engaged, the loop is bypassed; when the H9 is bypassed, the signal passes through the loop (e.g., a distortion is in the loop, and you want to switch to clean when you engage a delay on the H9 but turn the delay off and engage the distortion).

I liked all of Adamixoye’s ideas, but #3 in particular is right at the top of my list – for those of us using pre/post routing and MIDI, the ability to change pre/post for the current patch via MIDI opens up a whole new level of sonic options, since with a press of a button I could move my delay patch from after my OD to before and get a totally different sound.  And since I use two H9s, both in pre/post, the possibilities increase exponentially.

Yes, I could just have duplicates of all my patches, each being either pre or post, but that’s not only clunky and hard to manage, it’s just inelegant for such a flexible, MIDI-enabled pedal.

Anyway, I didn’t want this idea to get buried in months past.  🙂

Thanks!  I, too, still support these suggestions.  

[timmyo]

I’d like a really really really good dedicated compressor algorithm – is there anough processing power in H9 to run a great 1176 style compressor? 

The one in Crushstation is a bit basic, functional rather than musical – I’m sure you could do it

[nihad]

some algos I’d like to see implemented in the future;

1) as others have pointed out, some granular effects, and generally more experimental stuff..

2) bitcrush/samplereduction/distortion/clipping/filter (pre/post) in one effect similar to d16 decimort – http://d16.pl/decimort2

…though i’m not against some more experimental reverb/delay ideas, here are some I had in mind;

3) a modulating stereo delay, with pos and neg phase feedback (pcm42 style), that can then be smeared/diffused all the way into a lush reverb, with hi frequencies intact … would be able to go from delay to chorus to flanger to reverb, and everything in between

4) Vintage Reverb, think NonLin reverb, AMS RMX, 80s style, and generally some low end reverb techniques would be nice

5) also a reverb that genetally doesn’t cut too much high frequencies – as far as I’ve been able to tweak at only Blackhole can reverberate the high end

[datriani]

Is it possible for the software/app to reconfigure the 2nd audio input into a 2nd aux input so I can run a 3 button aux switch and expression pedal?

[nickrose]

datriani wrote:

Is it possible for the software/app to reconfigure the 2nd audio input into a 2nd aux input so I can run a 3 button aux switch and expression pedal?

Sorry, no. It is AC coupled, so it can't see the pedal.

[Given To Fly]

I would like an algorithm that turns the H9 into a metronome. Using the Factor pedals as a layout, keep the Mix Knob and assign a subdivision value to the other 9 knobs. These knobs would act as volume controls. Tap tempo would determine the main pulse and the subdivisions of that pulse would be 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 equal parts. Everything would be set to “Infinite Repeat.” That is just one idea and a fairly basic one at that.The general idea is a metronome that works as a tool for rhythmic complexity in a relatively simple way. I always find it refreshing when you make a utilitarian product. This “metronome” could be one that improves musicianship.  Its a long shot of a suggestion but it needed to be suggested. 

 

[rchionna]

Hi, it could be nice if presets dropdown list shows preset name instead of its list position in midi mapping (I need always to go back to list to see preset position); I use mac os application but I think that behaviour is the same on all platforms. Thanh you very much!!!

[Adamixoye]

rchionna wrote:

Hi, it could be nice if presets dropdown list shows preset name instead of its list position in midi mapping (I need always to go back to list to see preset position); I use mac os application but I think that behaviour is the same on all platforms. Thanh you very much!!!

This is a really good suggestion, it’s hard to know where you’re saving the preset with the current implementation.

[rstewart2000]

1) Hot switch indicator – I use an aux switch to activate the “Hot” button on some of my presets.  I wish there was something on the H9’s display to inicate the “Hot” switch is on, just a little dot on the display or something.

2) Send midi from software – When using the H9 Control on my iPad it would be great to send the midi data when I swicth to a preset since I am also using a Timefactor and I want to change the preset on the TF as well.

3) Kill-dry per preset – would be great now that I can use the pre/post option with 4 cables

4) Add tuner as a preset – I wish I could set a preset to the tuner.  When playing live, I maybe have 10 prsets that I go through in the order of the songs.  It would be nice to insert the tuner as a preset in the middle, or maybe even in multiple locations in the preset list.  It would even be cool to name the preset an alternate tuning, so I can remember, like DGDGBD. I have trouble engaging the tuner without stomping on my OX9 switches.

 

Thanks

 

[nickrose]

rstewart2000 wrote:

2) Send midi from software – When using the H9 Control on my iPad it would be great to send the midi data when I swicth to a preset since I am also using a Timefactor and I want to change the preset on the TF as well.

3) Kill-dry per preset – would be great now that I can use the pre/post option with 4 cables

These will be in the next release, due in a few months.

 

[sergicalhands]

nickrose wrote:

rstewart2000 wrote:

2) Send midi from software – When using the H9 Control on my iPad it would be great to send the midi data when I swicth to a preset since I am also using a Timefactor and I want to change the preset on the TF as well.

3) Kill-dry per preset – would be great now that I can use the pre/post option with 4 cables

These will be in the next release, due in a few months.

 

GHEAH!!!

[slesnick3]

Apologies in advance if this has been mentioned … as I run the H9 in stereo, the little “trick” that one can route one delay into the next by using multiple patch cables is not an option, it would be nice just to have an algorithm that provides two delays in a series configuration where one has control over the various divisions/mixing/and interactions between the two delays … THINK: the Strymon DIG in Algorythm format. 

Some updated/new-featured Chorus Algorithms would be welcomed — something that mabe targets a dual/tri chorus effect ….

Have a great weekend! 

[st.bede]

Let me see if I can explain this… I have 2 H9s and if I am working on getting a preset to sound the way I want in the H9 control program I would like to be able to send that preset x to the other H9 without having to save the preset.

[blooddeep]

There are some basic wish list items really asked for a while now. Not all of them new effects either….
1) making Pitch Flex capable of Dry only in Heel Down expression, otherwise one of the most common effects a whammy is really not usable. You instead have to put Heel Down to unison harmony and leave effect on all the time 100% wet unison instead of 100% dry. This request has come up for years
2) Series as well as prallell without changing physical routing of cables on Dual delays and Phasers as well to have MuTron like effects.
3) sequenced option on tremolo
4) univibe effect

I know you can’t get to all of these requests but these are important ones that have been mentioned here and other forums for years now. Not trying to be a dick, love the H9 but I think it’s more important to work with the stuff already on there rather than adding new effects like distortions ect. That’s why the wishlist is here, people are looking for specific changes and upgrades. I understand you can’t get to all these things but after this much time not one of these has been done.
Thanks for listening

[Adamixoye]

I’ve mentioned these features before, but I don’t see them on this page, so I would like to beat the same drum because I think these are somewhat easily implementable features that would just slay on the H9:

FEATURES

(1) MIDI (CC or otherwise) controls the input source (guitar/bass/synth/bass synth)

(2) Pre/post routing should have a second option per preset so that the loop can operate as it does now OR toggles with the H9 effect (example: delay on the H9, distortion in the loop, loop is active when H9 is bypassed for distortion and no delay, loop is bypassed when H9 is active for clean delay) OR is linked with the H9 effect (example:  octave effect on H9 turns on and off with compression and dirt in the loop).  These three options would be independent of whether the routing was pre or post, but only relevant when wired for pre/post.  See the Amptweaker line of effects and their various loops (including “SideTrack”) for what I’m talking about.

I cannot emphasize how amazing I would find these two simple features to be.  They would help my setup IMMENSELY.

ALGORITHM IDEAS

(1) Pattern tremolo

(2) A chromatic multi-voice pitchshifter; basically a keyless/modeless Quadravox (you can do this with two voices in Pitchflex or Harmodulator)

(3) A sequencer/arpeggiator with more control over the sequence instead of preset patterns

(4) Sitar emulation

(5) Organ emulation

(6) Anything synth-y

[lordradish]

THIS!!!!! THis would be the perfect thing I’ve been wanting, forever.

Adamixoye wrote:

A sequencer/arpeggiator with more control over the sequence instead of preset patterns

[keithicorn]

I would love a more usable synth algorithm. Something with features like the EHX Microsyth and/or HOG and polyphonic, e.g., more control over ADSR, distortion, and clean mix. It just seems somehow complicated and limited right now, which is probably why there are only 5 fun but pretty much unusable patches.

Octaver that has more octaves and more control over them, e.g., -2, -1, +1. Also, digital and analog modeling octaves options.

Reverse envelope filter in the q-wah algorithm with mix control and compressor combined. The new Sculpt algorithm at least has an envelope filter with compressor, but not with reverse envelope. It would also be nice to have more control over the ADSR in q-wah.

I would also like the ability to start any algorithm from scratch instead of modifying existing patches.

Polyphonic tuner algorithm.

[Adamixoye]

keithicorn wrote:

Polyphonic tuner algorithm.

A polyphonic tuner algorithm would be cool, but how would the display support it?

[Styrioci]

meh, no need for polyphonic tuner, it could be supported within app, but I’m not psyched about it. talking about tuner, it would be great if it was as accurate as Turbo Tuner, so I could get rid of one pedal 🙂

[aliengtr]

 I can tell you from internet surfing that the #1 and #2 problems with the h9 max are simple:

#1)one is price: every complaint post I saw  complained about the price of the h9 max (especially when contemplating needing 2)and opted for strymon stuff  instead because of it or said they would rather buy an eclipse for a few hundred more.. and they always point to #2 as the main reason which is:

  #2)can only run one algorithm at one time ,which incorrectly translates in their mind to “runs one effect at one time” [and yes I am aware some algorithms offer more than 1 effect at a time,but people who seem to know this consider the effects in 1 algorithm as watered down effects as opposed to being able to run more than algorithm].     

#3)+10/-4 output.,and android support

 

possible solution to #1 Price problem is: lower the price, you will sell more to make up any loss or offer a buy one get 1 free or a way top get 2 for les than a max and a core (though that is step in right direction).people are buying $200 lexicon units instead sadly…

possible solution to #2 and should be addressed ASAP by eventide, the 1 algorithm problem. people hear this, think 1 effect for $699 and walk away. I am aware that some algorithms can have multiple effects contained within them, but people consider those watered down f/x because they are in 1 algorithm. a great solution would be to at least be able to choose and use simultaneously at least 2 different presets simultaneously from the loaded algorithms in h9 (delay preset from timefactor and a pitch from pitchfactor for example) or

1.have a “live” mode algorithm with 16 or whatever number of effects to choose from and you can use 4 to 8 at one time (but they are simple/simpler than full blown effects in algorithms.at least this would stop the 1 effect at one time complaints.

 

additional algorithms:

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1)obviously a style algorithm :METAL algorithm with super high gain distortions and 80’s choruses,reverbs,etc……., a jazz pack, a blues pack ,etc.. with appropriate presets and guitar sounds

2)celebrity and band  algorithms focusing on a famous celebrities or bands sounds, such as the Judas priest or  pink Floyd or David Gilmore algorithm, Steve vain pack or Joe Satriani pack,  or Yngwie pack,etc…

3)a synth algorithm with pog and synth emulations,etc….

4)an algorithm based on a particular effect or amp, for example the marshall algorithm with recreations on j45’s,jcm 800,with reverb,delays specifically tuned for those sounds etc… or specifically for 1 amp like ox ac30 and all the sound sin can produce in one algorithm

5)a tube emulator which is an algorithm imitating tube amps and you could have a  physical add on box that goes with it that has 2 or more real preamp tubes

6)bass, acoustic,12 string, sitar emulator algorithm

7)various guitar emulator algorithm turns your guitar into emulation of various kinds of electric guitars sound wise such as les paul, strat,telecaster,etc….

8)psychoacoustics simulator algorithm: creates pseudo 3-d enhanced, surround type sound from stereo sources, panning,dolby stuff or pseudo stereo from mono sources,bb sonic maximizer stuff

9)algorithm of  existing pedals and rack units: so for distortion , you would be le to choose mxr+, rat, dod pedals,etc…….. or for delay 2290 and recreates its sounds to a tee and its features,etc….

10)microphone algorithm of different microphones miking your guitar,cabinet simulators,etc…

11)a sampler algorithm, can playback triggered wav files etc..

hardware add ons

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1)a physical box that lets you program max (a guy in France makes one I think)

2)a eventide midi controller for h9 or multiple h9’s with 8 silent footswitches and can send multiple program changes and cc’s for rest of guitar rig.

3)small pedalboard for 2 h9’s an power

4)a small stereo box with 2  or  5″ or 8″ or 12″ stereo speakers ,2 mono or 1 stereo amp and inputs or h9 (like those 30 watt tiny amps made in Italy),maybe battery powered as well?

5)small aux (midi probably) pedalboard for individual programmable functions of algorithms, turn of delay,chorus, or for looping functions)

6)new h9max with built h9 control and big lcd screen built in and a midi controller with footswithes

7)midi controller with footswitches designed for h9

 

[Bodde]

aliengtr wrote:

 I can tell you from internet surfing that the #1 and #2 problems with the h9 max are simple:

#1)one is price: every complaint post I saw  complained about the price of the h9 max (especially when contemplating needing 2)and opted for strymon stuff  instead because of it or said they would rather buy an eclipse for a few hundred more.. and they always point to #2 as the main reason which is:

  #2)can only run one algorithm at one time ,which incorrectly translates in their mind to “runs one effect at one time” [and yes I am aware some algorithms offer more than 1 effect at a time,but people who seem to know this consider the effects in 1 algorithm as watered down effects as opposed to being able to run more than algorithm].     

 

I don’t agree with #1. I think the price of the H9 is fair for what you get. It has much more to offer than one Strymon pedal. if you have two Strymon pedals that is about the price of a H9 max.

I agree with #2. That’s why I like the combined algos like SpaceTime that Eventide is bringing the last year. I would like to see more of those. But it still isn’t as fleixable as being able to combine two (or three) different algos. Being able to do that would greatly enhance the H9. Not sure if this physically possible though for future updates of the H9?

[Adamixoye]

bodde wrote:

I agree with #2. That’s why I like the combined algos like SpaceTime that Eventide is bringing the last year. I would like to see more of those. But it still isn’t as fleixable as being able to combine two (or three) different algos. Being able to do that would greatly enhance the H9. Not sure if this physically possible though for future updates of the H9?

I’ve said this a lot before, so not to beat a dead horse, but since we are a small community and Eventide seems to take these comments seriously, I want to respectfully state my disagreement with this.  Multi-effect algorithms are the last thing I want if they are limited to the standard 10(?) parameters.  Spacetime is interesting for the routing options, but the effects themselves are a little meh.  Simply combining these three effects is something that is geared at the owner of a single H9, not the owner of two (like myself) or more, where I’m already combining modulation and delay.  I would much rather see new and interesting effects than watered down combinations of multiple effects.

[Bodde]

Adamixoye wrote:

;Spacetime is interesting for the routing options, but the effects themselves are a little meh.  Simply combining these three effects is something that is geared at the owner of a single H9, not the owner of two (like myself) or more>

What do think is meh in the Spacetime algo? I think the three separate effecten stand for their own as well. I don’t consider them less quality than other effects in the H9.

And also I think the majority of the users have only one H9. The reason why some have two is exactly that it is not possible to use multiple algos at the same time on one H9. I don’t want to buy two because I already own many pedals and don’t want to bring yet another pedal to the gig. I try to bring as less gear as possible. Also it is too complicated for me to shift presets with two H9’s if you don’t want extra foot switches or midi. So for me combined algos are great.

[Adamixoye]

bodde wrote:

Adamixoye wrote:

;Spacetime is interesting for the routing options, but the effects themselves are a little meh.  Simply combining these three effects is something that is geared at the owner of a single H9, not the owner of two (like myself) or more>

What do think is meh in the Spacetime algo? I think the three separate effecten stand for their own as well. I don’t consider them less quality than other effects in the H9. And also I think the majority of the users have only one H9. The reason why some have two is exactly that it is not possible to use multiple algos at the same time on one H9. I don’t want to buy two because I already own many pedals and don’t want to bring yet another pedal to the gig. I try to bring as less gear as possible. Also it is too complicated for me to shift presets with two H9’s if you don’t want extra foot switches or midi. So for me combined algos are great.

There’s just not a lot of control with the individual effects in Spacetime.  I’m not saying they sound bad.  I’m saying the only unique thing the algorithm brings is the routing options.  I mean, the modulation is basically a two-knob chorus.  I don’t know why I should be excited about that.  That’s not what the Eventide brand means to me.

I’m not sure about the demographics of H9 owners.  It stands to reason that single H9 owners are the majority, I would be surpised if that wasn’t the case, but I don’t think that automatically means that algorithms should be tailored to that crowd.  I want Eventide to continue to push in new directions, not give me something I can obtain with three 2-4 knob analog pedals.

[Bodde]

Adamixoye wrote:

There’s just not a lot of control with the individual effects in Spacetime.  I’m not saying they sound bad.  I’m saying the only unique thing the algorithm brings is the routing options.  I mean, the modulation is basically a two-knob chorus.  I don’t know why I should be excited about that.  That’s not what the Eventide brand means to me. I want Eventide to continue to push in new directions, not give me something I can obtain with three 2-4 knob analog pedals.

Sort of agree with you about the new direction stuff. But if I can get a good sound with 2 knobs why do I need more knobs for basic chorus sounds? I prefer the sound of chorus in the SpaceTime of the Chorus algo in the Modfactor section.  Also the delay in the SpaceTime can do things that no other algo in the H9 does. With the feedback options. Like the rhythmic stuff I did in this video (first and third part): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgLInyYnGOI

 

[lordradish]

In regard to Aliengrt’s laundry list.

 

Price? It’s one of the best pedals out there. It’s well worth the price. Want all that stuff? Metal distortions? Buy a Zoom or something.

I don’t want a bunch of generic crap I can get elsewhere. I want the new algos to be cutting edge stuff, we can’t get elsewhere. As to multi-effects, I didn’t get Timespace, as I can do all that stuff pretty easy with my other things, but I can get why some people would really like it. I’m good with multi algos, but I’d be more stoked if they could give us something we haven’t heard before. A progammable step arpeggiator, a realistic emulation of an instrument (kind of like EHX is doing right now, rather well)… it’s EVENTIDE, this isn’t Boss or DOD here, they are known for the best, cutting edge stuff. I hope they continue with that. I love my H9, it’s an indispensable part of my sound.

[bigtim]

aliengtr wrote:

 I can tell you from internet surfing that the #1 and #2 problems with the h9 max are simple:

#1)one is price: every complaint post I saw  complained about the price of the h9 max (especially when contemplating needing 2)and opted for strymon stuff  instead because of it or said they would rather buy an eclipse for a few hundred more.. and they always point to #2 as the main reason which is:

  #2)can only run one algorithm at one time ,which incorrectly translates in their mind to “runs one effect at one time” [and yes I am aware some algorithms offer more than 1 effect at a time,but people who seem to know this consider the effects in 1 algorithm as watered down effects as opposed to being able to run more than algorithm].     

#3)+10/-4 output.,and android support

 

possible solution to #1 Price problem is: lower the price, you will sell more to make up any loss or offer a buy one get 1 free or a way top get 2 for les than a max and a core (though that is step in right direction).people are buying $200 lexicon units instead sadly…

possible solution to #2 and should be addressed ASAP by eventide, the 1 algorithm problem. people hear this, think 1 effect for $699 and walk away. I am aware that some algorithms can have multiple effects contained within them, but people consider those watered down f/x because they are in 1 algorithm. a great solution would be to at least be able to choose and use simultaneously at least 2 different presets simultaneously from the loaded algorithms in h9 (delay preset from timefactor and a pitch from pitchfactor for example) or

1.have a “live” mode algorithm with 16 or whatever number of effects to choose from and you can use 4 to 8 at one time (but they are simple/simpler than full blown effects in algorithms.at least this would stop the 1 effect at one time complaints.

 

additional algorithms:

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1)obviously a style algorithm :METAL algorithm with super high gain distortions and 80’s choruses,reverbs,etc……., a jazz pack, a blues pack ,etc.. with appropriate presets and guitar sounds

2)celebrity and band  algorithms focusing on a famous celebrities or bands sounds, such as the Judas priest or  pink Floyd or David Gilmore algorithm, Steve vain pack or Joe Satriani pack,  or Yngwie pack,etc…

3)a synth algorithm with pog and synth emulations,etc….

4)an algorithm based on a particular effect or amp, for example the marshall algorithm with recreations on j45’s,jcm 800,with reverb,delays specifically tuned for those sounds etc… or specifically for 1 amp like ox ac30 and all the sound sin can produce in one algorithm

5)a tube emulator which is an algorithm imitating tube amps and you could have a  physical add on box that goes with it that has 2 or more real preamp tubes

6)bass, acoustic,12 string, sitar emulator algorithm

7)various guitar emulator algorithm turns your guitar into emulation of various kinds of electric guitars sound wise such as les paul, strat,telecaster,etc….

8)psychoacoustics simulator algorithm: creates pseudo 3-d enhanced, surround type sound from stereo sources, panning,dolby stuff or pseudo stereo from mono sources,bb sonic maximizer stuff

9)algorithm of  existing pedals and rack units: so for distortion , you would be le to choose mxr+, rat, dod pedals,etc…….. or for delay 2290 and recreates its sounds to a tee and its features,etc….

10)microphone algorithm of different microphones miking your guitar,cabinet simulators,etc…

11)a sampler algorithm, can playback triggered wav files etc..

hardware add ons

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1)a physical box that lets you program max (a guy in France makes one I think)

2)a eventide midi controller for h9 or multiple h9’s with 8 silent footswitches and can send multiple program changes and cc’s for rest of guitar rig.

3)small pedalboard for 2 h9’s an power

4)a small stereo box with 2  or  5″ or 8″ or 12″ stereo speakers ,2 mono or 1 stereo amp and inputs or h9 (like those 30 watt tiny amps made in Italy),maybe battery powered as well?

5)small aux (midi probably) pedalboard for individual programmable functions of algorithms, turn of delay,chorus, or for looping functions)

6)new h9max with built h9 control and big lcd screen built in and a midi controller with footswithes

7)midi controller with footswitches designed for h9

 

 

I think you just spec’d the axe fx/helix/gt100 etc 🙂

[eustacius]

Well the price is high, but it is a quality product. I have the Max and compared to what else is sold I find it a really good value. Other pedals are also good, but the Max is really outstanding. I think Strymon sounds great, but I do not miss it. There’s definitely no less quality in H9 – it’s a matter of taste whether you like one or the other more. I even think the price is so good that I am considering to by another one – a core, cos then when they are hooked up, they both become Max’s. And then you can talk about super value.

Anyway the algorithm I’m still hoping for is a granular delay. That’s rare for guitarists (although Red Panda’s got one). I don’t think there’s much point in just creating endless wishlists of cool devices that you can imagine and dream that they could be build into the H9. I think a serious wish list should consider the hardware and the interface. A granular effect would fit nicely into delays and the amound of controls available.

[joinpobob]

Lot’s of good ideas on the thread.  The Patch Toggle mentioned above seemed really useful.  

Now responding to the “complaints” of too costly and one algorithm at I time, I just don’t get it.  I have a MAX and a CORE (which essentially became a max because I own one but at a lower price point).  

RE price, sure it is an expensive pedal.  But saying it should be cheaper is like saying that a custom shop strat should be cheaper.  More people would buy them, but the company would (likely) lose money.  I have custom shop Fenders and Gibsons.  Do I wish I paid less?  Sure.  But, they were well worth the money.  I feel that way about my H9’s.  Other brands are nice as well, and some are less costly.  But by the time you get all the gear that the H9 delivers, you are probably paying much more and are using much more pedal board space (which is important to me).  The other thing you must consider is that the good folks at Eventide keep making new algorithms, which are free for MAX owners, so you are recouping cost.  And how cool of them to keep making awesome algorithms.  Hats off to the company and the engineers.  

RE multiple algorithms, this confuses me a bit.  Most of the algorithms do have a combination of two effects.  So there is some combination.  And, as has been posted over and over, it is not really possible for the H9 to run two algorithms at the same time, so live with it.  I do have 2 H9’s, so yea, I like running more than one algorithm at a time.  But honestly I do not do it all that often.  (Maybe I just don’t understand the pre-post routing stuff, but I normally use one either at the end of the chain or at the beginning.  Oh and heck, for a couple of songs I play with the band the H9’s are off.).  While I am no creative genious, I am a pedal junkie and use a lot of effects.  But for the most part one H9 does everything I need.  I have to imagine that for most people one H9 running 1 algorithm (which again most algorithms have flavors of at least two effects) is plenty sufficient.  So like price, I feel like this is from people who want their cake and to eat it too.  And likely these complaints are really from non-H9 owners.  If they really paid the money to buy one and took the time to play one, I doubt they would be complaining much.  

[Given To Fly]

joinpobob wrote:

I feel like this is from people who want their cake and to eat it too.   

Algorithm Title: CAKE

All Preset Titles: EAT IT TOO 

I would think it would be funny. 

 

 

 

 

 

[aliengtr]

now, dont shoot the messenger,I am just reporting what I have seen complaint wise on other forums:1)cost and 2)1 algorithm . one reviewer even dismissed the whole pedal based on price which I found very unfair (I think he had a grudge saying the true cost was shown when  the max came out as I recall….). I would definitely pay more for quality sound than more effects at the cost of crappier sound.however, I like the idea of a live mode with several decent effects for live use at one time as an algorithm (perhaps not intended for  studio use but live use-maybe same sound quality less parameters in trade for multipl effects at one time? can’t hurt) and yes of course keep super high quality algorithms coming with a few quality effects as has been done (space time etc…).  I have worked with the lexicon rack stuff for delay and reverb and it’s ok, but just not guitar friendly and of course doesnt do what the h9 can do and the h9 control is just great as can be!!

[lordradish]

Hey, Eventide, here’s one that seems like it’d be rather easy to implement. I have a big pedalboard that I run bass, gtr and keys through. How hard would it be to make it so the AUX switch could switch the source? That way, just an easy click when I change my instrument, instead of going into menus? Doable?

[Adamixoye]

lordradish wrote:

Hey, Eventide, here’s one that seems like it’d be rather easy to implement. I have a big pedalboard that I run bass, gtr and keys through. How hard would it be to make it so the AUX switch could switch the source? That way, just an easy click when I change my instrument, instead of going into menus? Doable?

I have requested a bunch of times if this could be a MIDI option.  Having it be something that could be assignable to MIDI and/or an AUX switch would be ideal.

[aliengtr]

I would love to see a stereo version of a double tracker algorithm similar to  “Keeley: 30 ms DOUBLE TRACKER”  peedal and all of its modes/features, seems to be similar to recent delay/reverb algorithms so may be possible?

[cbm]

aliengtr wrote:

I would love to see a stereo version of a double tracker algorithm similar to  “Keeley: 30 ms DOUBLE TRACKER”  peedal and all of its modes/features, seems to be similar to recent delay/reverb algorithms so may be possible?

You can already do this sort of thing on the H9 using the MicroPitch algorithm.

[brobins]

After posting about this earliter today I was suprised to find that any midi maps I create cannot be saved along with other midi info. I wish for this please.Preferably using h9 control.

[Honch]

I would love to have something like TC Electronic has. In their tuner they had this polyphonice tuning, that can detect things within a chord, or you strum all string simultaneously. This method has been done at a company called Jam Origin, a product called MIDI guitar. It tracks polyphonically without latency, without need for a hex pickup and can drive and run most software synth plugins. As well as automatically write down a midi file from what you’re playing on guitar.

Now TC has released a few pedals with this “system” or “process” in. One of the most remarkable one is their “Sub’n’Up” which is a perfect pitch tracking algorithm, for mimicking both an octave down and an octave up. Especially when used octave up, it tracks it and produces a sound closest to 12 string guitar, and especially 8 string bass (double courses) that I’ve heard. Even when strumming chords. It doesn’t really do the 12 string, but it produces octaves higher still, on the B and E string which is unison anyway on a 12 string. The other pedal is the tuner thing.

 

So something that can track/pitch/trigger chords properly without latency and “guess it right” to produce 8 string basses, 12 string guitars sound. Polyphonically. Todays octavers and pitch shifters – even though it’s Eventide – can’t track chords properly yet and put an octave up for each note. Of course, it should do one octave down to with chords, but chords are not generally played that low, it just becomes muddy anyway, even if you play chords down low on a regular bass.

 

[Bodde]

My main wish for the H9 would be polyphonic pitch detection for the pitch shifter so you could play chords. This is what EHX is doing in their latest pedals. Thinking about buying an EHX Pitchfork for this. But it would be great if this could also be done with the H9. It would open up many possibilities for other algos as well. I Think that polyphonic pitch detection is the future for pitch shifting.

[joinpobob]

First, as always, a big thanks to Eventide for making great products. And for listening to customers as they develop improvements and new features.

I agree that polyphonic pitch shifting would be really nice. There are a number of algorithms that have a flavor of pitch shifting. But I do feel like many of them suffer because of tracking issues. Implementing a better pitch shifting capability would be a very nice addition that would span many algorithms. It seems like something that is well worth doing. While I think the H9 does many things extremely well, it seems to be a bit behind the times in terms of pitch shifting. There are a number of other pedals that seem to do a better job.

Thanks!

[Given To Fly]

I would really like to know how “polyphonic pitch shifting” is being defined because so far it has nothing to do with polyphony. Just because EHX uses a word to describe a pedal means they are using it accurately.

[Adamixoye]

Given To Fly wrote:

I would really like to know how “polyphonic pitch shifting” is being defined because so far it has nothing to do with polyphony. Just because EHX uses a word to describe a pedal means they are using it accurately.

I would like to turn it back to you and ask you to define what you think it means, how you think we are using it incorrectly, whether or not EHX uses it correctly, etc.

[joinpobob]

Admittedly, I do not know if polyphonic is the right word.  I just used Google to search for it and is says – capable of producing more than one note at a time.  That seems right.  

In my post at least, I also used the word tracking, i.e., playing an A and having the third come out as a C and the fifth come out as a E.  

Regardless of words, what I think the improvement should be is that when you have a pitch shifter on and you play a chord, it should accurately pitch shift all of the notes.  It should not be jsut a jumbled mess.  When you bend a string, it should accurately pitch shift with your bend.  Etc.  

I just think the H9 is a bit lacking in how accurately pitch shifting ocurrs.  (Of course, IMO, if you compare features of what the pedal can do with the pitch shifting, I think it out performs all others, but the act of pitch shifting itself seems a bit weak.  That is why I was saying if this was improved as a general matter, it could likely be implemented to improve all the pitch-related algos.)

 

“I would like to turn it back to you and ask you to define what you think it means, how you think we are using it incorrectly, whether or not EHX uses it correctly, etc.” – no offense, but this is kind of foolish.  

With that said, I would like to turn it back to all of the H9 community and ask you to define what you think galluses means, how you think it is used appropriately in modern conversation, and whether EHX is uses it correctly, if at all, etc. [i.e., make up your own questions and provide your responses to us].  

[Adamixoye]

joinpobob wrote:

“I would like to turn it back to you and ask you to define what you think it means, how you think we are using it incorrectly, whether or not EHX uses it correctly, etc.” – no offense, but this is kind of foolish.

How is that foolish?  I think we all understand what polyphonic means—at least I thought I knew what it meant.  Implying we are using it wrong without explaining why that is the case is not particularly productive, that’s why I wanted an explanation.

[camilok]

True stereo seperation with a mix control on all patches is what I would like.

[BMW-KTM]

I have not read the entire wish list thread yet.  I will do so eventually but if it has not already been mentioned I have a request for a new multi effect algorythm. I see there already are some algos with more than one effect at a time.  I would love to be able to achieve an early Tom Scholz (Boston) kind of guitar tone. I’ve been doing some research and apparently there are a number of effects required to get a reasonable facsimile.  I don’t expect an exact reproduction as that would take a whole lot of work.  He apparently would mic a dimed Plexi using a power attenuator so as to not overpower the mic.  This was to capture the tone of the cab and the mic.  He’d convert the mic signal to a guitar level signal, feed that through an EQ with a very specific EQ curve, mostly accentuating mids, split the signal into 3 with some slight pitch-shift changes on each channel, one standard, one a few cents below standard, one a few cents sharp, recombine, then compression, chorus, delay and noisegate.  Then, of course, there was a lot of post production tweaking at mixdown, making it stereo and adding delay to one side, etc..  That seems like an awful lot of work for one algo.  Actually it’s a lot of work no matter how you attack it.  Lots of artists used to use his Rockman gear to achieve their tone so it wouldn’t be just another one trick pony.  The problem with going the Rocman route is that there was a specific unit for each stage of the processing, meaning you’d have to buy a lot of pieces and that gear is now very old and increasingly expensive and pretty much the only pristine stuff left is held by hoarders and Boston cult followers.  Barry Goudreau used to get a reasonable facsimile using distortion, compression, parked wah, a similar EQ curve and chorus.

I’m thinking an algo that combines a distortion with compression adjustment, a delay/chorus/verb component and some kind of Q-wah with semi-parametric EQ controls would be enough to get a person fairly close.  The 3-way split, pitch-shift and recombine would be nice too.  I could use 2 H9s if that would make it easier.

[trebleboost7]

BMW-KTM wrote:

I have not read the entire wish list thread yet.  I will do so eventually but if it has not already been mentioned I have a request for a new multi effect algorythm. I see there already are some algos with more than one effect at a time.  I would love to be able to achieve an early Tom Scholz (Boston) kind of guitar tone. I’ve been doing some research and apparently there are a number of effects required to get a reasonable facsimile.  I don’t expect an exact reproduction as that would take a whole lot of work.  He apparently would mic a dimed Plexi using a power attenuator so as to not overpower the mic.  This was to capture the tone of the cab and the mic.  He’d convert the mic signal to a guitar level signal, feed that through an EQ with a very specific EQ curve, mostly accentuating mids, split the signal into 3 with some slight pitch-shift changes on each channel, one standard, one a few cents below standard, one a few cents sharp, recombine, then compression, chorus, delay and noisegate.  Then, of course, there was a lot of post production tweaking at mixdown, making it stereo and adding delay to one side, etc..  That seems like an awful lot of work for one algo.  Actually it’s a lot of work no matter how you attack it.  Lots of artists used to use his Rockman gear to achieve their tone so it wouldn’t be just another one trick pony.  The problem with going the Rocman route is that there was a specific unit for each stage of the processing, meaning you’d have to buy a lot of pieces and that gear is now very old and increasingly expensive and pretty much the only pristine stuff left is held by hoarders and Boston cult followers.  Barry Goudreau used to get a reasonable facsimile using distortion, compression, parked wah, a similar EQ curve and chorus.

I’m thinking an algo that combines a distortion with compression adjustment, a delay/chorus/verb component and some kind of Q-wah with semi-parametric EQ controls would be enough to get a person fairly close.  The 3-way split, pitch-shift and recombine would be nice too.  I could use 2 H9s if that would make it easier.

[Vim_Fuego]

Hi, sorry if this has been covered before, but would it be possible to have user defined intervals for the diatonic algorithm?
(or another algorithm) For example when using a 3rd below harmony for major scales the root note of the scale can sound better with a harmony of a 4th below. (i.e. in the key of C major the C note is harmonised with the G below).
Thanks

[jayron]

Working with the H9 now for quite some time in various styles, really like the creativity the H9 (I have 2) triggers!!!

What I really miss is:

– Good cutoff/resonance filter (LPF/BPF/HPF) to build up a sound to a climax.

– Free programmable Arpeggiator (HarPeggiator) / sequencer and Rhythms), not limited to the predefined ones…

– More Oscilator types in the Syntonizer (for more fat sounds, like supersaw) and more octaves to add

– Ability to program the switches on the H9 itself (active and tap) to be assigned to other functions. I have a Digitech FS3X now connected but would like to do the tap on the FS3X and use the tapswitch on the H9 for something else (like triggering the tuner or performance switch)

That’s about it for now. 🙂

Thanks Eventide!!!

[tommasoferrarese@mac]

The only thing I wish H9 had is dynamics triggering of the reverse delay buffer. This is what renders the Strymon Timeline’s reverse delay so playable, and I think it wouldn’t be too difficult to implement..

[bahill]

Hi,

I would love to have an LFO that can be used as a control source for any parameter that the Hot Knob can.

Brian

[st.bede]

I would love some filters… maybe two assignable filters (LP, BP, HP) that can run in series or in paraele with two routable LFO. I also find a dry mix useful. Maybe even an option for sequences to trigger different amounts of sweep. (Moving towards MidiMurf).

[Boylston]

I’d love to see a more comprehensive Compressor with different band controls, direct access to threshold/ratios/etc.  

Icing on the cake–  being able to use the LED Light ring to monitor signal or gain reduction.

Loving the EQ+Compressor algorithm, but might like a Compressor only or Compressor+EQ version, with maybe just a basic Treble/Mid/Bass control and more Compressor functions.  

[Honch]

• STRUM Tempo! I didn’t think twice about it until I played live with a TimeBender from Digitech. This works WAY better and are more exact than ANY tap tempo by the foot, on a switch, which always causes a latency or delay, and you’re not nailing it. To press the footswitch, mute the signal, and let it record the TAP by the STRUM you make is vastly superior to tap with the foot tempo method. Period. And it can be saved as a footswitch for other purposes, i e the strum tempo can be (and should be) acivated when holding down a footswtich for a certain amount of time, before it reacts to strum tempo.
• STRUM DELAY TIME! Yes, also stolen from DigiTech Timebender. When pressin a footswitch it “tracks” or “records” the strums and signal and measures the spaces between them, the taps, so to speak, and that makes up your delay pattern when you release the footswtich. DigiTech takes up to 6 different spaces between notes, and makes a pattern out of it. Once out of it, you can still set the delay time with the delay time knob. That the ratio of the pattern gets longer or shorter. HUGE applications.

 

[Honch]

Ok, somewhat out of topic. But when I read that OX9 pedal attachment, I just went ok…so what have they’ve been smokin?

What’s the point of releasing anything, that you anyway have to buy A THIRD external footswitch anyway to it? If they’re going to release anything, make it with all three footswtiches on there from the start on! Where’s their heads at?! That was my wish from the start on, that any delay pedal, or a pedal like the H9 needs to have 5 switches to cover it all. And then they release one with two… jeez…

 

YES, Wish they release a OX9 “cradle” with all three buttons on there for a start. Don’t give me the yadayadas about not enough space, because there is. I can understand the expression pedal bit though. That one should be the only one that should be connected to the external jack for the OX9/H9. And on top of this, with that “cradle” stuck on the H9 one can’t seem to put velcro strips underneath it because you must leave the fastening to the H9. So it can’t be stuck on a pedalboard without some really unwieldy and cumbersome workaround.

 

Fix that!

[nickrose]

Honch wrote:

 you anyway have to buy A THIRD external footswitch

Uh – you don't have to buy any foot switches, at all.

If for any reason, you want extra switches, you'll probably be glad that they are made available. If you don't, you won't care.

Some people are very tight on space on their pedalboards and appreciate the H9's "compact" footprint, especially if they have more than one. And again, others are not concerned.

Horses and courses.

 

[jgoldbach]

Honch wrote:

Ok, somewhat out of topic. But when I read that OX9 pedal attachment, I just went ok…so what have they've been smokin?

What's the point of releasing anything, that you anyway have to buy A THIRD external footswitch anyway to it? If they're going to release anything, make it with all three footswtiches on there from the start on! Where's their heads at?! That was my wish from the start on, that any delay pedal, or a pedal like the H9 needs to have 5 switches to cover it all. And then they release one with two… jeez…

YES, Wish they release a OX9 "cradle" with all three buttons on there for a start. Don't give me the yadayadas about not enough space, because there is. I can understand the expression pedal bit though. That one should be the only one that should be connected to the external jack for the OX9/H9. And on top of this, with that "cradle" stuck on the H9 one can't seem to put velcro strips underneath it because you must leave the fastening to the H9. So it can't be stuck on a pedalboard without some really unwieldy and cumbersome workaround.

 

Fix that!

It really is a matter of room on the OX9. If you look at the folks who made these accessories, they started with our Factor pedals and on that model there is a third button, because it's wide enough. Not sure how big your feet are, but mine are huge and a third switch across would be useful only if I cut my foot in half. It's also nice to be able to put the tap tempo (or whatever you assign the switch to) in a different location on your board. Go to Radio Shack and for about $5 you can easily make your own third switch. You don't have to purchase the Tesla, even though it's very well made. 

It was super easy to remove the old velcro from the bottom of my H9, put the OX9 on and then put velcro on the bottom of the OX9. I'm not sure how that's a problem, but perhaps I'm not understanding what you meant.

There are tons of aux switches out there on the market. I've easily tried about half a dozen, including the OX9, and they all have their plusses and minuses. The major plus of the OX9 is that it saves a lot of space and weight, which for me, is a big deal. If it's not for you, I recommend the Switch-3 from TC. It's built like a tank and works very well, but is large and heavy. To each their own. 

[lordradish]

jgoldbach wrote:

Honch wrote:

 If it’s not for you, I recommend the Switch-3 from TC. It’s built like a tank and works very well, but is large and heavy. To each their own. 

I have a Switch 3. If I just plugged it in to my H9, what would it do? Is there a way to use all three switches? How does that work?

[Adamixoye]

lordradish wrote:

I have a Switch 3. If I just plugged it in to my H9, what would it do? Is there a way to use all three switches? How does that work?

I used to control my Factor series pedals with Digitech FS-3Xs.  Plug in by a TRS cable, then program either via the menus or in H9 control.  One button will be [TIP], one will be [RING], the third will be [TIP+RING].

[jgoldbach]

[/quote]

I have a Switch 3. If I just plugged it in to my H9, what would it do? Is there a way to use all three switches? How does that work?

[/quote]

As lordradish said, use a stereo cable and connect the Aux switch to the Exp jack on the back of the H9. Make sure that in H9 Control under the Pedal tab, General Settings you have the "Use Expression Pedal, Aux Switch, or Both" setting set to "Aux Switch" and then on the Pedal tab click "Aux Switch Mappings" to control what each button does. It takes a little bit of work to get things set the way you want them, but I haven't found it to be a big problem. 

[lordradish]

jgoldbach wrote:

I have a Switch 3. If I just plugged it in to my H9, what would it do? Is there a way to use all three switches? How does that work?

[/quote]

As lordradish said, use a stereo cable and connect the Aux switch to the Exp jack on the back of the H9. Make sure that in H9 Control under the Pedal tab, General Settings you have the “Use Expression Pedal, Aux Switch, or Both” setting set to “Aux Switch” and then on the Pedal tab click “Aux Switch Mappings” to control what each button does. It takes a little bit of work to get things set the way you want them, but I haven’t found it to be a big problem. 

[/quote]

But I’m already using an expression pedal, and would like to keep doing so. Does that mean I can’t use the Switch 3 with just the aux?

[Adamixoye]

lordradish wrote:

jgoldbach wrote:

I have a Switch 3. If I just plugged it in to my H9, what would it do? Is there a way to use all three switches? How does that work?

As lordradish said, use a stereo cable and connect the Aux switch to the Exp jack on the back of the H9. Make sure that in H9 Control under the Pedal tab, General Settings you have the “Use Expression Pedal, Aux Switch, or Both” setting set to “Aux Switch” and then on the Pedal tab click “Aux Switch Mappings” to control what each button does. It takes a little bit of work to get things set the way you want them, but I haven’t found it to be a big problem. 

[/quote]

But I’m already using an expression pedal, and would like to keep doing so. Does that mean I can’t use the Switch 3 with just the aux?

[/quote]

Oh, that’s a problem.  I don’t think that’s possible.  I think the most you can do is 2 switches with the OX9 and add expression to that.

[cliveluis]

I really  wish H9 has a distortion + delay alorithgm .. Sculpt and Crush station sound so useless/dull without  delay ( off course you can add another third party delay pedal)

also if the Looper algo can add some delay that would be great.. its a bummer you can record only dry sounds .. i paid USD24.99  only to realise this later.. sure i did not read the manuall carefully ..my bad…

[Adamixoye]

At the risk of beating a dead horse, if the next algorithm is a “dual” algorithm like SpaceTime, then so help me…

[Given To Fly]

Could the “String Modeller” algorithm from the H3000 be made to work as an H9 algorithm? 

[metro6audio]

If you drop .tide files in ~/Library/H9 Control/Presets/<algorithm>, H9 Control will properly read them on launch, but for some reason it only imports .h9z or .syx files. This seems like the simplest case of “I had this .tide file synced to dropbox and need to import it on some random machine in a hurry”. Since that’s the way H9 Control stores the presets on disk, why can’t I just import those files instead of doing a bunch of Terminal mucking?

[gkellum]

metro6audio wrote:

If you drop .tide files in ~/Library/H9 Control/Presets/<algorithm>, H9 Control will properly read them on launch, but for some reason it only imports .h9z or .syx files. This seems like the simplest case of "I had this .tide file synced to dropbox and need to import it on some random machine in a hurry". Since that's the way H9 Control stores the presets on disk, why can't I just import those files instead of doing a bunch of Terminal mucking?

Well, we could support this but no one has ever asked for this before.  For the most part people use the export features in H9 Control to get their presets, and that exports h9z files. One reason why we use the h9z format instead of just importing and exporting tide files is that our plugins also use .tide files, and there are some H9 algorithms that are also plugins, but they aren't using compatible preset formats.  In any case I'll add your request to our wish list.

[metro6audio]

gkellum wrote:

For the most part people use the export features in H9 Control to get their presets, and that exports h9z files. One reason why we use the h9z format instead of just importing and exporting tide files is that our plugins also use .tide files, and there are some H9 algorithms that are also plugins, but they aren’t using compatible preset formats.  In any case I’ll add your request to our wish list.

Thanks for adding it, I think it’s valuable. I added another paragraph below here expanding why I think some progress is important. It may be that my initial wish item is less valuable than the expanded idea…

While I don’t doubt that most people export .h9z and reimport that, I think there’s value in syncing presets to a cloud system that would let me sync across multiple machines. Ideally, we’d get away from the “Save to Mac” and “Save to iPad” entirely and use iCloud drive or some other 3rd-party platform to always have the same presets available on all H9 Control devices that I sign-in to. I currently use a symlink to a Dropbox folder because I don’t want to have to remember to export/save/backup every time I make a new preset. The ability to import .tide is a stopgap to what I see as the *real* solution of syncing our presets for us across any device we’re signed in on.

[h9core]

Firstly, I’d just like to say what an amazing bit of kit the H9 is. I almost fell off my chair when I saw the EQ curves – studio/DAW quality EQ on my pedalboard, quick and easy to visualise and edit via an iPad. It’s by far the highest quality and most musical sounding delay unit I’ve used too, rather than cluttered noise like most delays. And it’s got midi, and its small! It’s almost perfect. I’ll be getting another one.

Wish:

I would love to see synching of settings/presets between all my devices that I use h9 control on through the cloud. So no matter whether I’m using my iPhone at rehearsal, my iPad at home or my main studio Mac everything would be kept up to date and in sync.

[Send2george2]

Is there any chance of a search facility? I’m occasionally left struggling trying to recall a particular algorithm location/ name

[Unchained81]

Any plans for an acoustic sim as legit as the Boss AC-3?  Not that you can ever truly replicate an acoustic guitar but the AC-3 demos are suprisingly good.  As acoustic sims go they’ve done a fantastic job.  Really want to avoid buying a pedal if there’s a chance the H9 could cover it just as well.

[joinpobob]

While there are many great suggestions on this thread, I feel like improved general effects would be the greatest improvement (and one that would appeal to potential buyers). I love my H9. I have two. I also love the theme – one pedal to rule them all. But I also run a möbius – for phaser flanger, Leslie, vol swells, etc. So I think the H9 needs some improvement to rule them all / be my precious.

I appreciate that one of the many things that makes even tide and the H9 great is that they are not just ordinary pedals. But sometimes we players just need ordinary pedals.

I do think the H9 / Modfactor is a bit behind other brand pedals. If you all released improved algos it would likely make a lot of current H9 users happy and would help to beat the competition.

Thanks.

[ChamomileShark]

I’d agree with that. I’m using my H9 core with synthesisers and while I’ve bought several delays, reverbs, pitch effects and some of the exclusive algos I’ve yet to purchase any of the mod factor derived ones. Generally I’ve found that I’ve not found so many digital mod effects I like from any maker when I compare them with analogue FX, either in hardware or software so I appreciate there is some reason why this is difficult.

[michael winston]

I’m new here and started using the H9 recently. That being said I’ve had all of the factor pedals at one point or another. So… here are my thoughts.

1. Improve current algo’s. I’m sure specifics have been discussed through out the forum by people with more expericnce than me… Based on my intitial experice, the tape delay could be greatly improved. 

2. New Algo… some sort of Reverb/Delay with a swell option. So the attack can be modified and can be used on the wet, dry, or both. (Someone people correct me if there is something that does this)

3. Delay with bass and highs control or modifying current controls. The filter controls (like on the vintage delay) seem to only effect the high end and the control on the digital is effecting either high or lowend. (for instance, intgration into one knob could look like this: the first part of the sweep is taking off highs, the next part could take off lows, and the last part of the sweep could sweep filters inward from the top and the bottom. I believe the strymon filters work in a similar way.  

4. Series Delay: Dual Delay like the digital delay that works in series rather than parallel that doesn’t require the physical patching work around. 

[cliveluis]

on a serious note, when can we expect the next new algorithm?

[AndreScott]

Hey guys, I’m new to the H9 and very much enjoying what I’ve got going here. As far as a wishlist goes I can only think of a couple of useful things.

Algo’s: 

Feedbacker would be a great addition, with the tap control being a press and hold to generate the harmonics. Not sure how this would work unless there was an external tap switch? I’m ok with that though.

Serial Delay with a “golden ratio” algo. I ditched that little pink pedal to get the H9 and it’s something I am missing. Again with the tap to hold (not oscilate out of control) option.

Octave Fuzz like the Octavio or La Machine. Maybe a new “Factor” designation like GainFactor? Fuzzes, OD’s, Distortion, etc. 

Compressor with a blend control. Probably the single most useful feature found on higher end Compressors that are not usually found in stomp format. The Ego being an exception.

I really like the Tap and Hold features of other pedals and had quite a few of those sorts of things incorprated into my live show. Can be useful to push gain’s or analog style delays into oscillation, or pitch increase/decrease (like that old Boss blue Harmonist, except good. Lol), freeze modes or even a tap and hold flange similar to the Zero Point. I’ve got external buttons and would love to use them in that way!

Definitely not unhappy with what I’m getting out of the H9 though! It was a tough decision to make that became a very easy decision once I plugged one in.

Thanks everyone!

[lordradish]

As I was going through a bunch of new presets someone sent me, I thought of a really easy one to eliminate some extra clicks… instead of having to open up the menu to select pre/post, why not have it so you can just change it by clicking on where it says “pre” in the main parameter window?

[mcvittym]

May we have major and minor pentatonic scales and a user defined scale option in the ‘Diatonic’ algorithm, please?

[BarneyBrown]

A H9 version of the Tverb plug-in would be useful.

[ivanrock]

Output level assignable to Hotswitch with an Aux Switch

[ivanrock]

It’s possible to use the Hotswitch with a pc comand? That could be useful. Greetings from Argentina.

[Poppy]

A Play Mode/Preset Mode MIDI CC. I can active the looper but can’t exit with my midi controller :'(.

[brock]

INV ENV as a modulation source.  It’s been mentioned before, but it’d be a ‘nice-to-have’.

The Momentary Switch options are currently available to direct parameter controls – only.  I’d like to see them added to ‘Performance switch’ & ‘Set expression pedal value (aka Hot Knob value)’.  Start and Stop points for the latter would be an welcome bonus.  Some potentially useful effects take the path of EXP PEDAL mapping over multiple parameters; the extremes of which are then controlled by a switching action.

[javiceres]

i’d really love to have Hot/Flex/Hold assignable to the tap tempo switch of the H9.

 

[Flabzilla]

This algo is real handy, and to make it even more useful for bass guitar would be the ability to adjust the bass shelving frequency.

400 Hz is too high, so I use the lower mid to shape the bass as well.

If the bass shelf was adjustable between maybe 40 and 400 Hz then both mid controls would be free to do mid type things, ala Darkglass B7K Ultra’s eq section. 

Actually, the same goes for the treble shelf; adjustable between 3 kHz and 10 kHz or thereabouts..

Cheers

[javiceres]

Flabzilla wrote:

This algo is real handy, and to make it even more useful for bass guitar would be the ability to adjust the bass shelving frequency.

400 Hz is too high, so I use the lower mid to shape the bass as well.

If the bass shelf was adjustable between maybe 40 and 400 Hz then both mid controls would be free to do mid type things, ala Darkglass B7K Ultra’s eq section. 

Actually, the same goes for the treble shelf; adjustable between 3 kHz and 10 kHz or thereabouts..

Cheers

 

Really good Idea.

 

 

As far as algos:

 

-What about a cab sim + verb ? Could a sintetized cabinet simulation be on par with an inpulse response one?

 

-Multitap microPitch? That would be awesome!

[javiceres]

Oh!

And I really miss a variety of delays with croseed feedback.

[peterfrequency]

Just saw this wish list thread for the first time, so wanted to include this here:

Dear Eventide,

I’m really loving the two H9s I recently bought. Ultra-powerful, and I really appreciate that a lot of parameters are midi-controllable. One way I use them is having external LFOs or envelopes subtly modulate parameters to create movement in the sound. Love it, and it makes the algorithms come to life even further.

One thing I would love more than anyrhing else? Having assignable midi CC numbers for the X, Y and Z parameters (in addition to the KB0-KB9 options). It would be killer for live situations!

I recently bought a BCR2000 midi knob box to control my H9s along with some other gear in live situations. Your system for having assignable. I’d love to be able to use the X, Y, Z concept – which works great for the front panel of the H9s – with an external midi controller. That way, for my midi performance patches on the BCR2000, I could make a generic BCR2000 preset instead of having to create a new one for every performance/live track. I could just have the essentials for live use – which for me are mix (KB0), output swell (OSW), expression/hotknob (EXP) plus parameters X, Y, Z. I would only need to use six knobs for each H9 instead of twelve, freeing up my BCR2000 to control more! I hope my description is clear enough! If this were to be added, I’d probably buy another one or two of these things in time. I hope you consider it. 🙂

[nickrose]

peterfrequency wrote:

I'd love to be able to use the X, Y, Z concept – which works great for the front panel of the H9s – with an external midi controller.

This is a good idea (mentioned before) – we are keen to include it in an (unspecified) future release.

(Sorry about the parentheses).

 

 

[peterfrequency]

nickrose wrote:

peterfrequency wrote:

I'd love to be able to use the X, Y, Z concept – which works great for the front panel of the H9s – with an external midi controller.

This is a good idea (mentioned before) – we are keen to include it in an (unspecified) future release.

(Sorry about the parentheses).

 

 

That’s great to hear! I very much look forward to it. 🙂

[tomasbr]

yesterday this one idea poped out of my mind… sounds crazy, but… what if presets would be choosable from guitar notes itself? one just enters into preset loading mode and then choose preset by playing different notes on guitar? dont know if your pitch detect algos could provide external data to different part of firmware, but if it could, it even double as midi converter. and maybe just not choose presets, but also parameters? notes are frequencies, frequencies are numbers, numbers can be converted into values. definitely i will make it work on my custom midi controller. i’ve said, sounds crazy.. or isn’t?

[mikeller]

Would love to see a Polyphonic Pitch Shift – say for example like a Digitech DROP.  My band plays several songs we have to drop a full set.  Rather than switch guitars I use the DROP.   If there was an algo for that, we could drop one more pedal from the board!!!!!  Cheers

[Adamixoye]

mikeller wrote:

Would love to see a Polyphonic Pitch Shift – say for example like a Digitech DROP.  My band plays several songs we have to drop a full set.  Rather than switch guitars I use the DROP.   If there was an algo for that, we could drop one more pedal from the board!!!!!  Cheers

I second this!  The Drop is great.  Pitchflex doesn’t quite get there for pure pitchshifting.

[javiceres]

Un-buy algorithms… well at least one or two, I’ve realized I don’t need SpaceTime I’d rather have Blackhole or MicroPitch instead…

[lordradish]

javiceres wrote:

Un-buy algorithms… well at least one or two, I’ve realized I don’t need SpaceTime I’d rather have Blackhole or MicroPitch instead…

I can’t see any rationale for that. People generally don’t get to return software when they don’t use or like it. That’s the point of allowing one to try out algos, in the first place. Before I maxed out, I’d try an algorithm out many times before deciding whether I’d use it, or not. I ended up buying some that I ended up not using much, but I’d never somehow think I should get my money back, having full opportunity to try them out as much as I’d like, before purchasing.

[badmelonfarmer]

lordradish wrote:

javiceres wrote:

Un-buy algorithms… well at least one or two, I’ve realized I don’t need SpaceTime I’d rather have Blackhole or MicroPitch instead…

I can’t see any rationale for that. People generally don’t get to return software when they don’t use or like it. That’s the point of allowing one to try out algos, in the first place. Before I maxed out, I’d try an algorithm out many times before deciding whether I’d use it, or not. I ended up buying some that I ended up not using much, but I’d never somehow think I should get my money back, having full opportunity to try them out as much as I’d like, before purchasing.

 

Agreed, I can’t see the issue persoanally… maybe if we were talking hundreds or thousands of dollars for an effect, but $20 … there would be no business sense in this. IMHO

[Given To Fly]

javiceres wrote:

Un-buy algorithms…

“Un-buy algorithms” specifically for Amazon and eBay would be fantastic! 

[lordradish]

Given To Fly wrote:

javiceres wrote:

Un-buy algorithms…

“Un-buy algorithms” specifically for Amazon and eBay would be fantastic! 

What incentive would Eventide even have to do this? What’s to stop you from returning all of your algos before you sell the pedal?  Don’t buy algos you’re not gonna use, it’s pretty simple. Thier system is perfect (with the caveat that it’d be nice to see new algos more frequently). This is a ridiculous idea.

[nickrose]

Thanks GTF. I would add a few more thoughts.

1) These are $20, not $20,000.

2) You probably want new algorithms in the future. These take a lot of work and skill. Mysteriously, our staff want to pay their rent.

3) I think I made the point, so I won't go on.

 

[Given To Fly]

nickrose wrote:

Thanks GTF. I would add a few more thoughts.

1) These are $20, not $20,000.

2) You probably want new algorithms in the future. These take a lot of work and skill. Mysteriously, our staff want to pay their rent.

3) I think I made the point, so I won’t go on.

 

I think there may have been some confusion. I asked for “Un-Buy” algorithms (specifically for Amazon and eBay) as a joke, several posts after the original idea was suggested, because people sometimes make purchases from these gigantic retailers that they later regret. Personally, I know nothing about this; I’ve only heard stories. 😉 The idea of Eventide making an “Un-Buy” algorithm that allows a person to “un-buy” products (like a kayak or $400 rare book) purchased from these retailers is beyond Eventide’s sphere of power and influence, not based in reality, and generally preposterous, sort of like magic. 

I hope that clarifies any confusion regarding what I actually wrote. Now, I need to figure out what to do with this kayak…..

[joeydego]

Allow for pre and post routing globally by default. I prefer most of what the pedal does to be routed post. It’s mildly annoying having to change every preset I want to scroll though. There should be a default setting.

[camn]

I didn’t study this thread, so my apologies if these are repeats.. but my wishlist:

 

1) LANDSCAPE mode in the Control App. Even is (especially if) it was just for the display of the pedal. I wan’t to see all the knobs at once in Landscape mode on my little Ipod. There is room!

 

2) Better handling of “realtive” Midi CC control?

 

Otherwise its awesome.

[Send2george2]

I would love a simple search facility, often I can recall the name of a algorithm but can’t for the life of me remember where it was located.

[javiceres]

Cool down:

 

1-It was just a suggestion.

2-I said unbuying one or two, ’cause everybody makes mistakes. 

3-5 minutes to try some complex FX only allows for an overall taste (how does the reverb part of SpaceTime responds to different settings, alone, takes you way more than 5 minutes). That said, I absolutely applaud the chance to try them. 

3-How’s that some people feels outraged by my comment and just ignore things like the fact that Eventide won’t allow Freeze/Hold/Flex to be assigned to any of the H9 footswitches?

4-Here´s one suggestion: in the last part of the Mix knob of SpaceTime, why not letting the wet modulated signal be heard? It is cut and only Verb and Delay are audible, wich can already be done by using Kill-dry. And then again, Verb and Delay have their own mix controls. 

For instance it is not currently possible to obtain a pure pitch-vibrato or a Chorus with the dry signal mixed to taste, and the possibility is there, it’s obvious but it is cut down for some reason.  

 

[alexone]

I also don’t understand the rationale and the feasibility of an unbuy option. It’s 20 dollars and you can try every day 3 minutes. It is already nice conditions.  But I agree about the fact that 3 minutes is a little too short to make one’s opinion. 10 minutes would be better.

Concerning the wish: I don’t know if it’s possible, but a real true bypass wet/dry would be nice: guitar in the input A (mono) and output A = Wet  / Output B = Dry (and true bypass)

[joeydego]

Of course it only allows for an overall taste. You don’t watch movie trailers and expect to see the whole movie, do you?

Come on man. It’s their livelihood to sell algos. I’m sure after demoing for 20 bucks you can get at least one or 2 useful sounds out of it.

[7thstring]

The filter knob is the tape echo could be more useful if it cut some of the low end. At the moment it seems to cut highs only and gives more of an analog delay freq response as the parameter is increased. A HPF would be more useful IMHO.

[Vim_Fuego]

Guys, any chance you could add triad based harmonies? At the moment I use a harmoniser live (for the boys are back in town) and I can’t use the H9 as the harmony for the root note is wrong. The pedal I have substitutes a fourth below the root instead of a third and that works!
I’ve included a picture of the note table.

[joeydego]

Vim_Fuego wrote:

Guys, any chance you could add triad based harmonies? At the moment I use a harmoniser live (for the boys are back in town) and I can’t use the H9 as the harmony for the root note is wrong. The pedal I have substitutes a fourth below the root instead of a third and that works! I’ve included a picture of the note table.

 

The diatonic algo will do this just fine. 

[Vim_Fuego]

joeydego wrote:

The diatonic algo will do this just fine. 

How so? Does the diatonic not just do the same diatonic interval, (for example maj or min thirds as appropriate)? The triad version substitutes a fourth below instead of a third when the root is played. Believe it or not this makes all the difference!

[supportwallirec]

Please make the algorithm “EDGE MASHIN” with ready-made presets for U2 songs. With a compressor, Overdrive and serial and parallel delays and reverb!

[matt@truearts.net]

What about an update to the Tremolo algo which adds some Spring reverb? These two go so naturally together, it’s very common for a tremolo guitar sound to be wetter than your general ambience level. Maybe a spring reverb effect after the tremolo with adjustable level and length (dwell)?

[mistercharlie]

How about using the lights on the big ring dial to make a strobe tuner? Like the Sonic Research Turbo Tuner?

[draakenworld]

I can hear this reverb algorithm to my mind’s ear. It’s definitely akin to Shimmer, but more like the pitch algo “Crystals” embedded in a reverb effect. Not quite as  pronounced as the Crystals sound, though – more subtle and random in character. Again, something similiar to Shimmer but with the shimmer voices replaced by a subtle version of Crystals with random delays and random selection of octaves and maybe also fifths.

[7thstring]

draakenworld wrote:

I can hear this reverb algorithm to my mind’s ear. It’s definitely akin to Shimmer, but more like the pitch algo “Crystals” embedded in a reverb effect. Not quite as  pronounced as the Crystals sound, though – more subtle and random in character. Again, something similiar to Shimmer but with the shimmer voices replaced by a subtle version of Crystals with random delays and random selection of octaves and maybe also fifths.

Like this?
https://youtu.be/mWiveFEN-Gg?t=00m30s

[draakenworld]

7thString wrote:

Quote:

Like this?
https://youtu.be/mWiveFEN-Gg?t=00m30s

Thanks for pointing to the demo. But no, none of the sounds on the Digitech Space Station sounds right, I’m afraid. There was a sound early on which made an attempt to kind of add a burst of sparkles, but way too chirpy.

BTW, I’m getting a second H9 next week. Maybe I can come up with something that approximates what I have in mind.

[kturpin]

Hey all, new to the forum. Loving my new H9!

Not sure if this is feasible, but it would be pretty amazing to have the ability for a cab ir with a Reverb option in the H9. Since most IR’s are basically an eq curve, it doesn’t seem that far-fetched, but I know nothing about programming etc. so I admit I’m speaking out of ignorance. This would be great for recording, silent practice or silent stage needs. Having the H9 last in the chain with an IR algorithm would be pretty awesome! Thanks for listening!

[joeydego]

some controllers are wired backwards and as such every single algo needs to be programmed backwards. For instance with my Mission controller every single wah patch is heel value 100 and toe value zero, making the heel the trebley part of the sweep. Would be nice for a switch somewhere in general settings, simply telling the H9 the controller is wired this was and to automatically compensate. 

[camn]

joeydego wrote:

 For instance with my Mission controller every single wah patch is heel value 100 and toe value zero, making the heel the trebley part of the sweep. Would be nice for a switch somewhere in general settings, simply telling the H9 the controller is wired this was and to automatically compensate. 

 

This is curious. 

I a;so use a Mission controller, and my heel value is 0 and toe 100, with a normal wah effect.

I just double checked using the “vintage Wah’ patch under Q-Wah.

Could this be fixed in setup?

[alexone]

A simple but necessary feature : to be able to turn off the volume of the non-active route. I mean for example in pre/post routing, I’m using the post effect in kill-dry mode (mixed with a dry sound). But when I activate the pre effect the post-route causes phase issue because of the latency of the dry signal passing through the pedal.

[moderngiant]

Please please update the H9 to allow the Hotswitch to change output volume?  It would allow many of us to take our solo boost pedals off our boards and gain a ton of space.

 

Is it really that hard to make this change?

[javiceres]

moderngiant wrote:

Please please update the H9 to allow the Hotswitch to change output volume?  It would allow many of us to take our solo boost pedals off our boards and gain a ton of space.

 

Is it really that hard to make this change?

That’s a great idea. But I think you can already do so. You can assign an external switch pedal to toggle between two values of any parameter, per preset, IIRC.

[Styrioci]

Any chance of new algo based on Fission plugin?

[brock]

1).  Those miniature input & output LED meters featured in the new Ultratap plugin:

 https://www.eventideaudio.com/ultratap-plugin

That would be a useful addition to the H9 Control app.  I realize that will cause issues of shared space with the global & per-preset indicators (Wet/Dry/ Stereo, etc.)  As an aside, I like that a derived plugin is breaking away from the 10 parameter stompbox model.  It’s unnecessary in a plugin format.  Go wild.

 

2).  Triggered ramping for the Aux switches.  Picture this: The ‘H-T & T-H Gliss’ time delays in the PitchFlex algorithm are initiated by the Flex switch.   Tap that code branch, and make it globally available to Aux switches (and, by extension, any algorithm parameter).  Momentary, or latching.  The Heel & Toe parameters are already covered by the Parameter Range Start & End controls.

Bonus points for a ‘Shape’ control over log / exp / linear curves.  That skew could possibly perform double duty by nestling those Shape curves under the expression pedal, and linking an Aux switch to the ‘… (aka HotKnob value).  Either way, it’s a unique attribute that could be applied to any parameter, in any algorithm.

https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/algorithms/pitchflex

A fella’ can dream … 

[mcvittym]

Can we have a user-defined scale facility in the relevant H9 pitch algorithims eg Diatonic?  Chck out the new tc electronic quintessence-harmonizer

 

[wilkinsi]

Personally, I would like to see:

1. All the Factor Pedals re-released with Bluetooth included.

2a. A delay algorithm that dynamically reacts to pitch rather than picking attack. Example: Mode 1: Play higher notes – delay increases, play low note, delay decreases. Mode 2: opposite to Mode 1. I’d call this one Pitch-Dynamic Delay. 

2b. A reverb algorithm that reacts as stated in 2a.

3. Plugin versions of Timefactor, Pitchfactor, Modfactor, and an update to the existing Space plugin (adding Space presets from the H9 Max to the plugin).

[wilkinsi]

Actually, scrub my last wish – just release an H9 MAX plugin! Even better if its free to all H9 MAX pedal owners!

[Dr.Jackle]

I would like to have the pitch algorithms track better. I was hoping for the H9 to make my Electro-Harmonix Micro POG redundant and spent an entire day trying to do simple octave up and octave down sounds. I tried every algorithm that could be set to do +8 or -8 interval but gave up and feeling frustrated hooked up the POG for reference. I played both pedals with couple different guitars, with neck and bridge pickups, before and after distortion, with and without a compressor and recorded comparisons to Logic. I really dig the Eventide stuff and hate to say it, but in every scenario there is no contest. The POG tracks reasonably well even if I play 16th notes 180bpm, whereas the H9 meows every second note and plays a wrong pitch every fifth or so note. If I keep the mix low enough it’s barely usable when playing 8th notes in a modest tempo, but 16th notes in any tempo or the mix over 20% it simply doesn’t perform well enough to be of musical use.

Another issue is with the input levels. The H9 sounds enormosly better if the input level is just below clipping. If the level is too low the pedal even when DSP bypassed sounds flat and especially eats low end off the sound. This presents a problem when switching guitars if there is even slight difference in the output of the pickups, either one of them sounds thin or the other one clips the input of the H9. It would be great if there was pad in the H9 that could be inserted to either or both of the inputs, maybe per preset, and the lowered volume be automatically compensated with the output level. This would also make the H9 usable in a line level effects loop.

Finally I’d like to write a disclaimer: I really like many algorithms in the H9, especially revebs and in no way mean to bash the unit, but these are my two main issues with the device. Thanks!

[supportwallirec]

[Цитата = Dr.Jackle]

Я бы хотел, чтобы алгоритмы подачи лучше отслеживали.

[/ Цитата]

Используйте алгоритм Pitchflex, он не отслеживает заметки, вы можете записывать заметки, как из Gatling Machine Gun.

[supportwallirec]

Dr.Jackle wrote:

I would like to have the pitch algorithms track better.

Use the algorithm Pitchflex, it does not track notes, you can put notes like from the Gatling Machine Gun.

[Dr.Jackle]

wallirec wrote:

Dr.Jackle wrote:

I would like to have the pitch algorithms track better.

Use the algorithm Pitchflex, it does not track notes, you can put notes like from the Gatling Machine Gun.

I’m quite certain I tried every single algorithm to do the octave up/down sound, including Pitchflex. If you say Pitchflex does the job, what is your signal chain and settings on the Pitchflex? Thanks!

[supportwallirec]

I’m quite certain I tried every single algorithm to do the octave up/down sound, including Pitchflex. If you say Pitchflex does the job, what is your signal chain and settings on the Pitchflex? Thanks!

[/quote]

Try reinstalling the firmware, maybe your device is working with an error.

[tencentcat]

Dr.Jackle wrote:

I would like to have the pitch algorithms track better. I was hoping for the H9 to make my Electro-Harmonix Micro POG redundant and spent an entire day trying to do simple octave up and octave down sounds. I tried every algorithm that could be set to do +8 or -8 interval but gave up and feeling frustrated hooked up the POG for reference. I played both pedals with couple different guitars, with neck and bridge pickups, before and after distortion, with and without a compressor and recorded comparisons to Logic. I really dig the Eventide stuff and hate to say it, but in every scenario there is no contest. The POG tracks reasonably well even if I play 16th notes 180bpm, whereas the H9 meows every second note and plays a wrong pitch every fifth or so note. If I keep the mix low enough it’s barely usable when playing 8th notes in a modest tempo, but 16th notes in any tempo or the mix over 20% it simply doesn’t perform well enough to be of musical use.

Another issue is with the input levels. The H9 sounds enormosly better if the input level is just below clipping. If the level is too low the pedal even when DSP bypassed sounds flat and especially eats low end off the sound. This presents a problem when switching guitars if there is even slight difference in the output of the pickups, either one of them sounds thin or the other one clips the input of the H9. It would be great if there was pad in the H9 that could be inserted to either or both of the inputs, maybe per preset, and the lowered volume be automatically compensated with the output level. This would also make the H9 usable in a line level effects loop.

Finally I’d like to write a disclaimer: I really like many algorithms in the H9, especially revebs and in no way mean to bash the unit, but these are my two main issues with the device. Thanks!

I second this. I adore the H9 in everything but polyphonic pitch shifting. An updated pitchflex algorithm would be most glorious.

[joeydego]

Ok guys. The H9 is coming up or just passed 4 years old. It is a fantastic first try, but I think there have been a lot of solid points, even a few no brainers thrown around here. I really want to see a vsn 2 of the H9, or even better something comparable to the TC Electronics G System. You can really destroy the competition with that one.

[wilkinsi]

How about a spillover when changing presets, even when both presets use different algorithms?

[wilkinsi]

Here’s another one – how about a limited edition H9 Core in black with purple LED text/numeric display?

[Given To Fly]

wilkinsi wrote:

Here’s another one – how about a limited edition H9 Core in black with purple LED text/numeric display?

I recall one of the moderators saying the red text/numeric display (which has an actual name so naturally, I can not remember it) was used because it is the only display that can be read even in direct sunlight. I am sure a moderator will correct me if I am wrong. 

[wilkinsi]

Given To Fly wrote:

wilkinsi wrote:

Here’s another one – how about a limited edition H9 Core in black with purple LED text/numeric display?

I recall one of the moderators saying the red text/numeric display (which has an actual name so naturally, I can not remember it) was used because it is the only display that can be read even in direct sunlight. I am sure a moderator will correct me if I am wrong. 

 

Is there some kind of tape I can slap on the display of one of my H9’s to change its color (or hue) instead? I like to be able to distinguish one H9 from the other. 

[Poppy]

wilkinsi wrote:

Given To Fly wrote:

wilkinsi wrote:

Here’s another one – how about a limited edition H9 Core in black with purple LED text/numeric display?

I recall one of the moderators saying the red text/numeric display (which has an actual name so naturally, I can not remember it) was used because it is the only display that can be read even in direct sunlight. I am sure a moderator will correct me if I am wrong. 

 

Is there some kind of tape I can slap on the display of one of my H9’s to change its color (or hue) instead? I like to be able to distinguish one H9 from the other. 

 

I will try to change digits by Green digits, I’ve found parts. I haven’t seen Purple color I don’t think you can do it without ask a special product to manufacturer.

[camn]

I was just thinking blue-tinted glass over the red letters… red and blue = purple!

[wilkinsi]

camn wrote:

I was just thinking blue-tinted glass over the red letters… red and blue = purple!

 

Eventide could sell replacement displays with different colors, assuming they would be user-friendly to replace. There’s a few of these on eBay for the EMU Proteus 2000 synths. Something like that. As a cheaper alternative, I was hoping someone would recommend some kind of removable tape I could put on top of the display rather than take the pedal to pieces (consequently voiding the warranty).

[Given To Fly]

wilkinsi wrote:

camn wrote:

I was just thinking blue-tinted glass over the red letters… red and blue = purple!

 

Eventide could sell replacement displays with different colors, assuming they would be user-friendly to replace. There’s a few of these on eBay for the EMU Proteus 2000 synths. Something like that. As a cheaper alternative, I was hoping someone would recommend some kind of removable tape I could put on top of the display rather than take the pedal to pieces (consequently voiding the warranty).

My studio monitors have an exceptionally bright, BLUE, light that I covered with a thin strip of red painters tape. I would think a trip to Home Depot would result in something that would do the trick. 😉 Actually, an art supply store would probably be a better option. 

 

[Boynigel]

wilkinsi wrote:

Given To Fly wrote:

wilkinsi wrote:

Here’s another one – how about a limited edition H9 Core in black with purple LED text/numeric display?

I recall one of the moderators saying the red text/numeric display (which has an actual name so naturally, I can not remember it) was used because it is the only display that can be read even in direct sunlight. I am sure a moderator will correct me if I am wrong. 

 

Is there some kind of tape I can slap on the display of one of my H9’s to change its color (or hue) instead? I like to be able to distinguish one H9 from the other. 

 

or you could just play.  yeesh

[wilkinsi]

Please fix Bluetooth loss of connection with multiple H9’s and H9 Control.

[tomasbr]

I wish for… H9 and other pedals could accept NRPN increment/decrement via CC. Also I wish for by setting option sending parameters out to MIDI when preset is loaded and while parameter is edited… I wish for nice integration…

(NRPN controller value should be that selected withi pedal setup)

 

[Given To Fly]

I do not believe the H9 was designed to do what people seem to want it to do. It acts more like a chameleon on a pedalboard, changing its color when need be. I could not help but notice that the H9000 is full of features that I can barely pronounce. I think there might be some room in between the H9 and H9000 for a more powerful floorboard H9 product. In my mind’s eye, I am imagining 3 H9’s welded together, which would be the ideal size and shape. (I have no doubt there are better ways of designing such a product.) The purpose of this “H9 Factor” would also be a chameleon that could be part of your pedalboard, your entire pedalboard, or, thanks to the new distortion algorithms, your entire setup (minus a power amp) which would be especially useful when traveling internationally. Most musicians step on something in order to change FX, often times a pedalboard. Why not introduce the first pedalboard worth stepping on? Now, as usual, I am pretty sure you have thought of something like this already and you know what your product line up is going to be, at least for the near future. The H9 Factor would be a broader platform on which to implement the new algorithms you will undoubtedly be creating. Just a thought…that I’ve been thinking about for awhile. 😉 

[camilok]

My biggest wish would be for the lag to go away when switching presets.  As musicians, all of us can hear when things are off by as little as 20 milliseconds, and the current lag limits the use for me in live situations.   I find myself wanting to switch between algos, but I just dont because of the way it kills my groove.  I even have two on my board – one in the loop and one for pre/post on my switching system.  I only change things with an expression pedal during a song these days, or turn the loaded effects on or off.. 

Still, there is only one Eventide when it comes to sound quality, and the H9 fopr the price just cant be beat in that department.

[nickrose]

camilok wrote:

My biggest wish would be for the lag to go away when switching presets.  As musicians, all of us can hear when things are off by as little as 20 milliseconds, and the current lag limits the use for me in live situations.   I find myself wanting to switch between algos, but I just dont because of the way it kills my groove.  I even have two on my board – one in the loop and one for pre/post on my switching system.  I only change things with an expression pedal during a song these days, or turn the loaded effects on or off.. 

Still, there is only one Eventide when it comes to sound quality, and the H9 fopr the price just cant be beat in that department.

We thank you for your kinds words.

In effect you have explained the issue – our presets are large and complex things (this is why they sound so good), but as a result, they take time to change.

We'll try and improve this in time, but it is, in a way, the nature of the beast.

 

[nickrose]

Alas, the POG and the H9 are different animals. The POG can do polyphonic pitch shiftings, and little else. The H9 is not great at at polyphonic pitch shifting, but is great at so many other things.

We understand that you want one pedal to rule them all, but this is not always possible. Horses and courses.

 

 

[Given To Fly]

nickrose wrote:

Alas, the POG and the H9 are different animals. The POG can do polyphonic pitch shiftings, and little else. The H9 is not great at polyphonic pitch shifting but it is great at so many other things.

We understand that you want one pedal to rule them all, but this is not always possible. Horses and courses.

I am amazed at the demands made of the H9 versus the demands made of any other guitar pedal. The only thing more amazing is Eventide has managed to cater to some of those demands in the form of software updates. I do not know of any other company who is actively adding requested features (not fixing problems) to their guitar pedals 4 years after they were purchased without needing to touch the hardware? What pedal would you replace your H9 with?

“One pedal to rule them all” is impossible. “One pedal to get the job done, and get the job done well” is within the realm of possibility, This depends largely on the job that needs to be done and whether H9 users want such a product in the first place. I trust Eventide knows what they are doing and if they don’t, they are figuring it out. I also think they would like people to continue wishing for more H9 wishes. 

 

[Dr.Jackle]

nickrose wrote:

Alas, the POG and the H9 are different animals. The POG can do polyphonic pitch shiftings, and little else. The H9 is not great at at polyphonic pitch shifting, but is great at so many other things.

We understand that you want one pedal to rule them all, but this is not always possible. Horses and courses.

 

So it’s not possible to make the tracking of existing pitch algorithms any better, or design a new alorithm for simple octace up & down sounds? I’m not interested in playing chords with the pitch algorithm, I would just like better tracking of single note lines. Could you shed light on why the POG’s tracking is superior and why the same level of performance isn’t possible to replicate with H9?

How about the question about input levels, would it be possible in pre/post scenario to control the level of the two inputs independently?

[jcrhee]

So I would love for a Digitech Freqout type algorithm. Being able to generate feedback or ebow type effect would be awesome… please.

[wilkinsi]

USB Audio on the H9 would make it very useful in a DAW, Likewise, the ability to use an H9 as a plugin would also appeal, especially to those of us who can’t afford an H9000, 

[camn]

You can use any gel…though it might get dark.

 

however… the dark plastic over the display is totally removable from inside. You could pop it out, and get some other tinted piece of plastic to replace it.. maybe blue to make purple?

[camn]

I am getting blocked when I post a link.. but search Amazon for “Highlighter tape”. its $4.

 

WIll it make the display too dim? You gotta try it out. let us know.

 

[jgoldbach]

camn wrote:

I am getting blocked when I post a link.. but search Amazon for "Highlighter tape". its $4.

WIll it make the display too dim? You gotta try it out. let us know.

Hi Camn, sorry for the inconvenience. Can you tell me what link you're trying to post and what happens when you do? You should be able to post simple links, but we employ various anti-spam tools and one of them may be the culprit. Feel free to email me the details: jay at eventide dot com.

[nickrose]

The good Mr Camn has tried to post something that for no obvious reason our Forum does not accept (I'll speak to our enormous IT department).

The crux of his message is 'search Amazon for "Highlighter tape". its $4.'

 

[wilkinsi]

nickrose wrote:

The good Mr Camn has tried to post something that for no obvious reason our Forum does not accept (I’ll speak to our enormous IT department).

The crux of his message is ‘search Amazon for “Highlighter tape”. its $4.’

 

I just ordered a set from Amazon. I hope this works.

 

[wilkinsi]

wilkinsi wrote:

nickrose wrote:

The good Mr Camn has tried to post something that for no obvious reason our Forum does not accept (I’ll speak to our enormous IT department).

The crux of his message is ‘search Amazon for “Highlighter tape”. its $4.’

 

I just ordered a set from Amazon. I hope this works.

 

The highlighter tape didn’t work. Waste of money.

[camn]

wilkinsi wrote:

The highlighter tape didn’t work. Waste of money.

 

oh no! was it too dark?

[question]

[/quote]

oh no! was it too dark?

[/quote]

No, it’s weak and breaks easily when used in tape echos, also doesn’t highlight any section, it all sounds the same.

[wilkinsi]

question wrote:

oh no! was it too dark?

[/quote]

No, it’s weak and breaks easily when used in tape echos, also doesn’t highlight any section, it all sounds the same.

[/quote]

 

Harhar. I stick to my original wishes – replacement alternate colour LED displays and USB Audio

[Boynigel]

this is likely a long shot but you never know…

i like to use the quadravox alg quite a bit.  i’ll usually have it set up so that my toe-up and toe-down positions on my expression pedal correspond to a different key/mode.  this basically allows two keys per preset.  i notice that when my foot travels from the toe-up position to the toe-down position that i can see the scrolling of all the in-between keys.  what would really be cool is if it were possible to limit, via editing, the preset to a predetermined amount of of keys/modes (3 to be precise), that way my toe-up position could be one key, my toe-down another, and THEN have the 3rd key in the middle of the expression pedal’s travel.  it’s impractical if not impossible to find that “middle” key via expression pedal scrolling mid-performance but if there was a way to eliminate all the unwanted “in-between” keys, leaving only 3, it would make it easy to find that 3rd key at the expression pedal’s mid-point.  hopefully this makes sense.  i see it as a way to increase the usability within a single preset and eliminating some mid-performance patch scrolling.  i can just hear people at eventide saying, “man, you can tell this guy isn’t an engineer!” …LOL  thanks for listening.

[Adamixoye]

I can’t remember if I’ve mentioned this before, but I really wish there were a chromatic (non-key based) version of the quadravox algorithm, e.g., for multiple root-5th-octave organ sounds.

[bohan]

Adamixoye wrote:

I can't remember if I've mentioned this before, but I really wish there were a chromatic (non-key based) version of the quadravox algorithm, e.g., for multiple root-5th-octave organ sounds.

Sounds like a good idea. I think I also once wanted to play like this. Can't assure whether or when will it be updated though…

Currently, I would recommend you:

1. still use Quadravox, set the MODE to Major. As long as you don't hit major 7th notes in the key of the KEY knob, you can always get perfect 5th notes to make this organ-like sound.

2. Try H910/H949 algorithm. Set one pitch to 1.5 and another to 2.0. Turn delays to 0 (or very small) and give both voices a bit feedback (add a bit more on the 2.0 pitch voice). You should be able to get this kind of organ sound.

Hope it can help.

[Adamixoye]

bohan wrote:

Adamixoye wrote:

I can’t remember if I’ve mentioned this before, but I really wish there were a chromatic (non-key based) version of the quadravox algorithm, e.g., for multiple root-5th-octave organ sounds.

Sounds like a good idea. I think I also once wanted to play like this. Can’t assure whether or when will it be updated though…

Currently, I would recommend you:

1. still use Quadravox, set the MODE to Major. As long as you don’t hit major 7th notes in the key of the KEY knob, you can always get perfect 5th notes to make this organ-like sound.

2. Try H910/H949 algorithm. Set one pitch to 1.5 and another to 2.0. Turn delays to 0 (or very small) and give both voices a bit feedback (add a bit more on the 2.0 pitch voice). You should be able to get this kind of organ sound.

Hope it can help.

Thanks,

I tried some of these and they were okay; I think the real issue is that I would like to be above to do something like octave below, 5th up, octave up.  The other suggestion of Pitchfuzz worked for this.  And you’re right that you can sort of fake it with the Quadravox algo.

[brock]

bohan wrote:

 

Adamixoye wrote:

 

I can’t remember if I’ve mentioned this before, but I really wish there were a chromatic (non-key based) version of the quadravox algorithm, e.g., for multiple root-5th-octave organ sounds.

 

…  Currently, I would recommend you:

 

1. still use Quadravox, set the MODE to Major. As long as you don’t hit major 7th notes in the key of the KEY knob, you can always get perfect 5th notes to make this organ-like sound.

2. Try H910/H949 algorithm. Set one pitch to 1.5 and another to 2.0. Turn delays to 0 (or very small) and give both voices a bit feedback (add a bit more on the 2.0 pitch voice). You should be able to get this kind of organ sound …

I’d like to add the PitchFuzz algorithm.  A touch of Hammond Growl, detuned beating, adjustable ‘drawbars’, and overtone blending.    It really comes to life with some expression pedal swells.

[llemtt]

I don’t know if already whished..

a 3 or more taps delay with pan/level/fbk/xfbk controls for each tap

extreme wish: add also autopannings and modulations

[marcusm750]

llemtt wrote:

a 3 or more taps delay with pan/level/fbk/xfbk controls for each tap

Individual panning and level controls for the taps would allow for circular delays a la the venerable PCM-70!

[question]

Hi there,

I’ve been reading the stompboxes forum for the last few days to get an overall impression about what’s already been covered in terms of feature or improvement requests, but didn’t notice any topic that would make my humble ones duplicates, so apologies if I repeat something that has been discussed already.

So, here are my wishes : )

1)      Custom patterns for HarPeggiator (or at least more lower octave arp presets)

2)      Hold or freeze like mode for HarPeggiator, ie. buffer a certain portion of incoming audio, loop it, and apply HarPeggiator. A separate looper pedal before it could be an immediate solution but why share the market if this is technically possible within a H9.

3)      One (or two) control LFOs assignable to any parameter of every algo

4)      A brand new algorithm for H9… “MarcovFactor” (1^st degree at least); ie., analyze a certain number of incoming notes during  a certain interval, and use these as pitch shifting intervals (randomly or else way).

Cheers

Q

 

[javiceres]

question wrote:

Hi there,

I’ve been reading the stompboxes forum for the last few days to get an overall impression about what’s already been covered in terms of feature or improvement requests, but didn’t notice any topic that would make my humble ones duplicates, so apologies if I repeat something that has been discussed already.

So, here are my wishes : )

1)      Custom patterns for HarPeggiator (or at least more lower octave arp presets)

2)      Hold or freeze like mode for HarPeggiator, ie. buffer a certain portion of incoming audio, loop it, and apply HarPeggiator. A separate looper pedal before it could be an immediate solution but why share the market if this is technically possible within a H9.

3)      One (or two) control LFOs assignable to any parameter of every algo

4)      A brand new algorithm for H9… “MarcovFactor” (1^st degree at least); ie., analyze a certain number of incoming notes during  a certain interval, and use these as pitch shifting intervals (randomly or else way).

Cheers

Q

 

You read my mind in 2 & 3 🙂

[Styrioci]

Physion based algorithm for H9 pedal would be great

[Styrioci]

I’m not sure if it was mentioned before, but ability to build own algorithms for H9 would be epic. Something like do whatever you wish algorithm – pick up from some blocks, set routing, assign tweakable parameters to the standard 11knob interface for instnt access…endless possibilities for H9. We see it’s possible to combine different effects in one algorithm, give us free hand

[Adamixoye]

styrioci wrote:

I’m not sure if it was mentioned before, but ability to build own algorithms for H9 would be epic. Something like do whatever you wish algorithm – pick up from some blocks, set routing, assign tweakable parameters to the standard 11knob interface for instnt access…endless possibilities for H9. We see it’s possible to combine different effects in one algorithm, give us free hand

This is a wonderful idea that is almost surely not going to happen.  

Whatever happened to that other Eventide stompbox that was being discussed last year?

[javiceres]

Styrioci wrote:

I’m not sure if it was mentioned before, but ability to build own algorithms for H9 would be epic. Something like do whatever you wish algorithm – pick up from some blocks, set routing, assign tweakable parameters to the standard 11knob interface for instnt access…endless possibilities for H9. We see it’s possible to combine different effects in one algorithm, give us free hand

And of course this has been my dream ever since I knew about the H9.

[kiesshauer]

I wondered about the possibility of creating a new delay algorithm whose modulation settings would create some space between the stereo channels.  To say it another way, I play stereo guitar most of the time and have used a few other delays where as you turn up modulation it creates movement and space between the two sides.  Any chance of that, I wonder??  

Thanks guys!

[bansta]

UniVibe! Please-please-please!

[conaro]

what really suprised me after i’ve got a H9 that one cannot control X, Y and Z over midi, it would have been sooo cool to “select my three most important values over the unlocked X, Y and Z keys on the H9 unit and then twist those parameters SIMULTANEOUSLY on a seperate midi controller which has the three X, Y and Z knobs premapped.

the way it is now (with the 10 different kb0-kb9 values that one can control over midi) that if you have an preconfigured 8 potentiometer midicontroller (a usual number of pots to have on midicontrollers) that you will need to use 2 different midicontroller configuration presets (one for the first 8 kbX and a second for the remaining 2 plus hotknob) and if you want to fiddle with value 2, 5 and 9 you would have to modify your midicontroller configuration which would be too much of a pain to do, so i just dont.

[Adamixoye]

conaro wrote:

what really suprised me after i’ve got a H9 that one cannot control X, Y and Z over midi, it would have been sooo cool to “select my three most important values over the unlocked X, Y and Z keys on the H9 unit and then twist those parameters SIMULTANEOUSLY on a seperate midi controller which has the three X, Y and Z knobs premapped.

the way it is now (with the 10 different kb0-kb9 values that one can control over midi) that if you have an preconfigured 8 potentiometer midicontroller (a usual number of pots to have on midicontrollers) that you will need to use 2 different midicontroller configuration presets (one for the first 8 kbX and a second for the remaining 2 plus hotknob) and if you want to fiddle with value 2, 5 and 9 you would have to modify your midicontroller configuration which would be too much of a pain to do, so i just dont.

I see what you’re saying, though you could go in, preset by preset, and assign those same parameters to expression, and then have your MIDI controller control the expression CC.

[camn]

…but there are three of them. And the exp pedal is for other things!

 

AND ANYWAY- being able to assign x/y/z to midi cc would be super useful.. and I think just another setting in the MIDI menu.. Nothing too crazy.

[ziarackse]

Hi Eventide,

Just got the H9 pedal two weeks ago, and still learning how to work with an expression pedal, including Control Input Volume and Control Output Volume.

My question is this: if a linear taper is usually desired for expression effects but an audio taper is desired for volume effects, would it be possible to “map” the signal from a linear expression pedal to the appropriate taper for the parameter?

For example, I want to use an expression pedal with a linear pot to control the Mix linearly but the Output Volume exponentially (audio taper).  I imagine someone might be interested in something similar if they’re using an audio taper volume pedal (and want to control a parameter linearly).

Thanks!

[javiceres]

ziarackse wrote:

Hi Eventide,

Just got the H9 pedal two weeks ago, and still learning how to work with an expression pedal, including Control Input Volume and Control Output Volume.

My question is this: if a linear taper is usually desired for expression effects but an audio taper is desired for volume effects, would it be possible to “map” the signal from a linear expression pedal to the appropriate taper for the parameter?

For example, I want to use an expression pedal with a linear pot to control the Mix linearly but the Output Volume exponentially (audio taper).  I imagine someone might be interested in something similar if they’re using an audio taper volume pedal (and want to control a parameter linearly).

Thanks!

Yes !!!!!

[question]

Hi,

This is a kind of repeated wish of mine, but please give us (me… ahem!) more lower octave pitch sequences in Harpeggiator. Now I needed to use another octave pedal before it to make it sound not ear piercingly high pitched when I chose most of the premade sequences.

And that effectively costs me an additional ~$100. I would prefer donating that amount to Eventide for a one less pedal in my case if that would create a very very tiny excitement there  : ) If they had decided to crowd-fund some new algorithms of add things to available ones, I’d certainly back them up. Well if none of these works.. I even wonder is there a way to bribe : P Eventide to encourage them to make some “custom” or “signature” or “artist” version of available algos : P

Well… maybe I should buy a Vsig friendly device and hire an external developer for tailored things; only if they weren’t so big.

Cheers

[mustafaicil]

An algorithm that adds delay to Q-wah. And Wah itself needs a bit of improvement too in my opinion.

[wilkinsi]

Next algorithm should be the Ultrashifter, even if it means having to use 2x H9’s to use it. I’m sick of diatonic shifters. Give us a proper pitchshifter.

[lordradish]

wilkinsi wrote:

Next algorithm should be the Ultrashifter, even if it means having to use 2x H9’s to use it. I’m sick of diatonic shifters. Give us a proper pitchshifter.

It’s a pretty safe bet that most H9 users only own one H9, I can’t see any reason Eventide would make an algo that needs two pedals to function. That’d actually piss me off, quite a bit, if they did that.

[bansta]

I’ve got two of them. Who else?

lordradish wrote:

wilkinsi wrote:

Next algorithm should be the Ultrashifter, even if it means having to use 2x H9’s to use it. I’m sick of diatonic shifters. Give us a proper pitchshifter.

It’s a pretty safe bet that most H9 users only own one H9, I can’t see any reason Eventide would make an algo that needs two pedals to function. That’d actually piss me off, quite a bit, if they did that.

[Adamixoye]

Based on what I see in pedal forums, I don’t know how safe of a bet it is that “most” H9 users only own one!  But otherwise your point is correct.

[Styrioci]

what about convolution reverb? where you can load your own IR files – my primary aim is at using it for speaker cabinet emulation, but others might find it useful for emulating room reverbs.

[joeydego]

styrioci wrote:

what about convolution reverb? where you can load your own IR files – my primary aim is at using it for speaker cabinet emulation, but others might find it useful for emulating room reverbs.

You’d have a problem stepping down to instrument level I’d think (depending of course what you’re using for amp sounds and what it’s ultimately spitting out)

[Styrioci]

joeydego wrote:

You’d have a problem stepping down to instrument level I’d think (depending of course what you’re using for amp sounds and what it’s ultimately spitting out)

I’m thinking of line level signals here – lots of amps have line out, or reactive load boxes have them. as far as I know, H9 is designed to work well with both line and instrument levels.

[joeydego]

styrioci wrote:

joeydego wrote:

You’d have a problem stepping down to instrument level I’d think (depending of course what you’re using for amp sounds and what it’s ultimately spitting out)

I’m thinking of line level signals here – lots of amps have line out, or reactive load boxes have them. as far as I know, H9 is designed to work well with both line and instrument levels.

Unless something’s changed (I don’t think it has) the H9 will clip at line level. I had this problem and a few of my loops I can’t use without stepping it down to instrument level. It’s a 50 dollar fix, but a PITA.

[Styrioci]

joeydego wrote:

I had this problem and a few of my loops I can’t use without stepping it down to instrument level. It’s a 50 dollar fix, but a PITA.

Ah..now I remember, when I was “re-H9-ing” some tracks I had same “problem”. I fixed it by setting proper output levels within DAW. As you say, it’s a pita, but as far as there is output level knob on the source I think it should be fine.

[bansta]

Global volume control, wich remains active in the bypass mode

[bohan]

bansta wrote:

Global volume control, wich remains active in the bypass mode

You can use an expression pedal or a MIDI controller to control the output volume globally. 

[bansta]

When the H9 is bypassed the expression pedal and MIDI controller are being ignored and the output volume remains set to patch value with no reaction on pedal movements. Did I miss some setting to change this behaviour?

 

bohan wrote:

bansta wrote:

Global volume control, wich remains active in the bypass mode

You can use an expression pedal or a MIDI controller to control the output volume globally. 

[nickrose]

bansta wrote:

When the H9 is bypassed the expression pedal and MIDI controller are being ignored and the output volume remains set to patch value with no reaction on pedal movements. Did I miss some setting to change this behaviour?

bohan wrote:

bansta wrote:

Global volume control, wich remains active in the bypass mode

You can use an expression pedal or a MIDI controller to control the output volume globally. 

I'm guessing you are in RELAY BYPASS mode, in which case the unit is effectively out of circuit. Set it to "DSP BYPASS" if you want it to be active while bypassed.

 

[bansta]

I’m in DSP+FX-Bypass. (I’ve tried the DSP-bypass as well)

The volume is controlled per MIDI CC.

When the H9 is bypassed, the volume goes up to the level, stored in the current preset. (Normally I’ve got it dimed by a MIDI-Volume pedal)

My wish is to have the voulme on the same level as it was immidiately before the bypassing with no jumps.

Cheers

 

 

nickrose wrote:

bansta wrote:

When the H9 is bypassed the expression pedal and MIDI controller are being ignored and the output volume remains set to patch value with no reaction on pedal movements. Did I miss some setting to change this behaviour?

bohan wrote:

bansta wrote:

Global volume control, wich remains active in the bypass mode

You can use an expression pedal or a MIDI controller to control the output volume globally. 

I’m guessing you are in RELAY BYPASS mode, in which case the unit is effectively out of circuit. Set it to “DSP BYPASS” if you want it to be active while bypassed.

 

[javiceres]

# 624 Yes please !!!!

[Duncan59]

Hi! I am not technically minded. Many of the H9 presets are far too complex for my tiny brain, and I feel I am tweaking controls randomly. I hate the time-suck and high rate of failure I routinely experience in trying to create workable presets. I would like two things:
1. A slooow phase preset with a basic cycle that takes about 8-10 seconds to get back to the top (or bottom) of the loop. Call it “slow vintage phase.” Find my creation of it with a Line-6 M9 here:
https://keyparty-sb.bandcamp.com/track/diamond-eyes
2. Little cursor triggered hover-over pop-up captions for the app that explain the controls in descriptive guitar-player terms, e.g. “increases or decreases the rate of the effect” or “modifies the effect from softly shifting waves of attack to blunt, dramatic strikes.” Meanwhile, what us musical, non geeky consumers have to wade through is a bunch of oblique technical terms that read like laws the laws of physics! These describe nothing by way of practical functionality, so I can’t adjust the preset to resemble what I am hearing in my head. It’s awful, makes me feel stupid and does not result in the sonic beauty I know it could help me create.
Do I have to go back to my shitty, but intuitive Line 6 M9? Heaven help us!
Duncan, Les Paul / Vox AC player, effects lover.

[Honch]

Hmm… owned one now for a while. Sold it, then bought it again, alas. There’s just something gravitational, magnetic to the H9 Max.

A wish, for long echo/delays and reverb combined:

I don’t know if the delay can be made longer than 3 seconds, but some kind of ambient delay should go past at least 5 seconds plus, 6 or 8 seconds, to produce accurate reproduction of the “Frippertronics” effect played by Robert Fripp hooking up 2 Revox tape recorders for a lot of seconds between repeats… but

1. Let’s say you have a 3 seconds delay, 50 % dry wet mix, and a LOTS of repeats/feedback. Then the first repeat should have almost 0 dry/wet reverb on to it, the second repeat 4-5 & dry/wet reverb on it, and the last one 100 % wet reverb on it. Mind you, that you can’t stack the alreadye reverbed repeat into another reverbed repeat it should be the first one that is gradually acceleration dry/wet mix ONLY, and not the type of reverb. Then you mimick that you move away from the source, like in a church or cathedral. Like .. the one that played the first phrase sits further and further back… and …

2. The reverb should also gradually increase stereo spread with each repeat. The first repeats maybe just a faint L&R spread in stereo, or entirely in monom, in the middle, but that last one at 100 % wet reverb mix should have huge monstruous 3D spatially panned har L&R to give a huge stereo spread, although way in the back.

I do think this would work in super long delays only. A musical example of this is the old prog iconic work of Mike Oldfield and his “Tubular Bells” recording. At the final part of the first side, where the introduction of all instruments are told, the announcer moves on to the next, and the first instrument is heard more faintly but with more reverb, then when all are presented they sound like “overdubs a thousand times”.

Used with vocals, voice, I think one could very well end up sounding like a giant stadium of football (soccer) fans chanting.

 

[Honch]

And still a Wish : remake the H9 physically from the ground up.

the H9 has center positive and outer negative in current jack.

The Rose pedal, has center negative like all others.

Why have you separated the current contact like that? Confusing, and what have you guys been smoking ?

[Honch]

.. and STRUM tempo… please

[entreat69]

Hi Duncan 59 though I think the Flanger is closer to what you are looking for here’s also Phaser Algorithm version for your H9 to try. Feel free to correct the Tempo if it isn’t 125bpm. Also do change the bar length to suit your purposes. Hope this comes closer to what you intend for your song. Good luck.

Randolf

[question]

In the olden days people used to say RTFM

Nowadays it’s no longer politically correct I guess

 

[skywriter]

Please make H9 Control multitask. I can’t use my iPad for anything else without H9 Control app completely restarting. Or at least save context for when I return, it doesn’t actually have to do anything while I’m task switching.

[Korhan Erel]

As this thread is really, really, really long, I did not even try searching for my wish in it. So, here it is: I would love to have an option to turn off showing value changes on the H9s screen when they are modulated externally (MIDI). I send the H9 several MIDI LFOs from an Empress Zoia and as H9 tries to cope with displaying several changing parameter values (with no indication of which parameters they are), its knob and buttons become sort of unresponsive. They still function, but as the display is taken over by the ever-changing parameter values, it is impossible to see manual parameter changes or preset names.

[ethosphere]

Internal modulators! The H9 would be so much more powerful if it had a few lfos, envelopes, step sequencer and other types of modulators that you could assign to the fx params. Would turn the pdeal into a much more powerful beast!

[Per]

I would love a port from native reverb SP2016. Just love it on many many things.  Is it possible?

[entreat69]

Duncan59 wrote:

Hi! I am not technically minded. Many of the H9 presets are far too complex for my tiny brain, and I feel I am tweaking controls randomly. I hate the time-suck and high rate of failure I routinely experience in trying to create workable presets. I would like two things: 1. A slooow phase preset with a basic cycle that takes about 8-10 seconds to get back to the top (or bottom) of the loop. Call it “slow vintage phase.” Find my creation of it with a Line-6 M9 here: https://keyparty-sb.bandcamp.com/track/diamond-eyes 2. Little cursor triggered hover-over pop-up captions for the app that explain the controls in descriptive guitar-player terms, e.g. “increases or decreases the rate of the effect” or “modifies the effect from softly shifting waves of attack to blunt, dramatic strikes.” Meanwhile, what us musical, non geeky consumers have to wade through is a bunch of oblique technical terms that read like laws the laws of physics! These describe nothing by way of practical functionality, so I can’t adjust the preset to resemble what I am hearing in my head. It’s awful, makes me feel stupid and does not result in the sonic beauty I know it could help me create. Do I have to go back to my shitty, but intuitive Line 6 M9? Heaven help us! Duncan, Les Paul / Vox AC player, effects lover.

Hi Duncan 59, maybe i can help. Nice track btw 🙂

Is yours the H9 Max or?

RA

[Duncan59]

entreat69 wrote:

Duncan59 wrote:

Hi! I am not technically minded. Many of the H9 presets are far too complex for my tiny brain, and I feel I am tweaking controls randomly. I hate the time-suck and high rate of failure I routinely experience in trying to create workable presets. I would like two things: 1. A slooow phase preset with a basic cycle that takes about 8-10 seconds to get back to the top (or bottom) of the loop. Call it “slow vintage phase.” Find my creation of it with a Line-6 M9 here: https://keyparty-sb.bandcamp.com/track/diamond-eyes 2. Little cursor triggered hover-over pop-up captions for the app that explain the controls in descriptive guitar-player terms, e.g. “increases or decreases the rate of the effect” or “modifies the effect from softly shifting waves of attack to blunt, dramatic strikes.” Meanwhile, what us musical, non geeky consumers have to wade through is a bunch of oblique technical terms that read like laws the laws of physics! These describe nothing by way of practical functionality, so I can’t adjust the preset to resemble what I am hearing in my head. It’s awful, makes me feel stupid and does not result in the sonic beauty I know it could help me create. Do I have to go back to my shitty, but intuitive Line 6 M9? Heaven help us! Duncan, Les Paul / Vox AC player, effects lover.

Hi Duncan 59, maybe i can help. Nice track btw 🙂

Is yours the H9 Max or?

RA

Hi RA, and thank you! Mine is regrettably not the H9 Max, but I am willing to purchase whatever presets I need to get the right sound. I do kinda wish Eventide offered a guitar player’s interface as an alternative to the sound-engineer’s interface that is the current default. The H9 is, after all, basically a stomp box – or at least it is for users like me. Anyway RA, I would love to try your solution (and thanks for listening to our first released track, now on Spotify, Apple, ITunes etc.).

[Duncan59]

entreat69 wrote:

Duncan59 wrote:

Hi! I am not technically minded. Many of the H9 presets are far too complex for my tiny brain, and I feel I am tweaking controls randomly. I hate the time-suck and high rate of failure I routinely experience in trying to create workable presets. I would like two things: 1. A slooow phase preset with a basic cycle that takes about 8-10 seconds to get back to the top (or bottom) of the loop. Call it “slow vintage phase.” Find my creation of it with a Line-6 M9 here: https://keyparty-sb.bandcamp.com/track/diamond-eyes 2. Little cursor triggered hover-over pop-up captions for the app that explain the controls in descriptive guitar-player terms, e.g. “increases or decreases the rate of the effect” or “modifies the effect from softly shifting waves of attack to blunt, dramatic strikes.” Meanwhile, what us musical, non geeky consumers have to wade through is a bunch of oblique technical terms that read like laws the laws of physics! These describe nothing by way of practical functionality, so I can’t adjust the preset to resemble what I am hearing in my head. It’s awful, makes me feel stupid and does not result in the sonic beauty I know it could help me create. Do I have to go back to my shitty, but intuitive Line 6 M9? Heaven help us! Duncan, Les Paul / Vox AC player, effects lover.

Hi Duncan 59, maybe i can help. Nice track btw 🙂

Is yours the H9 Max or?

RA

Hi again RA / Entreat 69! You said you can help? Please do share, I am keen to get this slow phase/flange effect dialed in for my shows. (I play that song that I shared and I currently have a very poor phase in my H9 that does not deliver). THANK YOU!

Duncan

 

[entreat69]

Duncan59 wrote:

entreat69 wrote:

Duncan59 wrote:

Hi! I am not technically minded. Many of the H9 presets are far too complex for my tiny brain, and I feel I am tweaking controls randomly. I hate the time-suck and high rate of failure I routinely experience in trying to create workable presets. I would like two things: 1. A slooow phase preset with a basic cycle that takes about 8-10 seconds to get back to the top (or bottom) of the loop. Call it “slow vintage phase.” Find my creation of it with a Line-6 M9 here: https://keyparty-sb.bandcamp.com/track/diamond-eyes 2. Little cursor triggered hover-over pop-up captions for the app that explain the controls in descriptive guitar-player terms, e.g. “increases or decreases the rate of the effect” or “modifies the effect from softly shifting waves of attack to blunt, dramatic strikes.” Meanwhile, what us musical, non geeky consumers have to wade through is a bunch of oblique technical terms that read like laws the laws of physics! These describe nothing by way of practical functionality, so I can’t adjust the preset to resemble what I am hearing in my head. It’s awful, makes me feel stupid and does not result in the sonic beauty I know it could help me create. Do I have to go back to my shitty, but intuitive Line 6 M9? Heaven help us! Duncan, Les Paul / Vox AC player, effects lover.

Hi Duncan 59, maybe i can help. Nice track btw 🙂

Is yours the H9 Max or?

RA

Hi again RA / Entreat 69! You said you can help? Please do share, I am keen to get this slow phase/flange effect dialed in for my shows. (I play that song that I shared and I currently have a very poor phase in my H9 that does not deliver). THANK YOU!

Duncan

 

Hi Duncan sorry for the late reply, been busy with crazy datelines.

I heard your track again and it does sound more like a Flanger than a Phaser effect following a Fuzz. I will upload the presets for you to try and feel free to make slight adjustments to come closer to what suits your ears. I’ve also included a tap tempo and the phase/flange sweep across 2 to 3 bars. Feel free to adjust those parameters too. I’ll provide the link in my next post after I update my H9 Max firmware. Cheers

Randolf

[Duncan59]

entreat69 wrote:

Hi Duncan 59 though I think the Flanger is closer to what you are looking for here’s also Phaser Algorithm version for your H9 to try. Feel free to correct the Tempo if it isn’t 125bpm. Also do change the bar length to suit your purposes. Hope this comes closer to what you intend for your song. Good luck.

Randolf! That’s amazing of you, thank you! When I’ve had more coffee I’ll figure out how to get these patches into my H9 to try them out 🙂 (as I said, not very technically minded). But this is so helpful, I cannot tell you! I’ll get back to you with results. You rock. 

[Duncan59]

entreat69 wrote:

Hi Duncan 59 though I think the Flanger is closer to what you are looking for here’s also Phaser Algorithm version for your H9 to try. Feel free to correct the Tempo if it isn’t 125bpm. Also do change the bar length to suit your purposes. Hope this comes closer to what you intend for your song. Good luck.

Randolf

Hey Randolf,
I worked with both of your patches and the Flanger was just about perfect. At a show last night that long slow flange cut through the band’s mix like a hot knife through butter, and sounded really good. It reminded me why I bought the H9 in the first place! I need to make that flanged loop a little bit longer if possible, (and will try to figure out the parameters to do this) but it’s otherwise perfect! Thank you again for your helpful soundcrafting,
Duncan

[javiceres]

skywriter wrote:

Please make H9 Control multitask. I can’t use my iPad for anything else without H9 Control app completely restarting. Or at least save context for when I return, it doesn’t actually have to do anything while I’m task switching.

I totally agree !!!

[bohan]

skywriter wrote:

Please make H9 Control multitask. I can't use my iPad for anything else without H9 Control app completely restarting. Or at least save context for when I return, it doesn't actually have to do anything while I'm task switching.

There is a new public beta version, which enables H9 to run in the background. So now it works in the multitask mode, and you can use a 3rd party app to send MIDI to your Eventide pedals via H9 Control.

Here is the link to the beta: https://testflight.apple.com/join/rTMrrvEQ

Let me know if this works for you guys

[alamondm]

javiceres wrote:

skywriter wrote:

Please make H9 Control multitask. I can’t use my iPad for anything else without H9 Control app completely restarting. Or at least save context for when I return, it doesn’t actually have to do anything while I’m task switching.

I totally agree !!!

Yes, This.

[Korhan Erel]

ethosphere wrote:

Internal modulators! The H9 would be so much more powerful if it had a few lfos, envelopes, step sequencer and other types of modulators that you could assign to the fx params. Would turn the pdeal into a much more powerful beast!

This is most probably not possible with the existing algorithms as it would require the reprogramming of all existing presets -> nightmare. And most algorithms have modulation in them anyway. I am personally fine with modulating the H9 externally. With the new Zoia from Empress Effects, you can send all sorts of modulations to the H9 and even make those modulations part of a Zoia preset. When you load that preset, the H9 switches to the associated preset and gets modulated by the Zoia. The two become a powerful processor. But this display problem I mentioned above makes the H9 difficult to use while being modulated. It would be a simply general settings switch to fix this. ‘Display values of MIDI modulated parameters’ Yes / No 🙂

[joeydego]

bohan wrote:

skywriter wrote:

Please make H9 Control multitask. I can't use my iPad for anything else without H9 Control app completely restarting. Or at least save context for when I return, it doesn't actually have to do anything while I'm task switching.

There is a new public beta version, which enables H9 to run in the background. So now it works in the multitask mode, and you can use a 3rd party app to send MIDI to your Eventide pedals via H9 Control.

Here is the link to the beta: https://testflight.apple.com/join/rTMrrvEQ

Let me know if this works for you guys

Thanks! This is something that was always mildly abrasive but I didn’t think to bitch about. An excellent improvement.

[Author]

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