H90 Freeze a sound

[Pepisoul]

Is it possible to freeze a sound with the H90 like the TC Electronic Infinite Sample Sustainer does?

[tbskoglund]

Yes, 2 of the new algorithms Polyphony and Prism Shift have a freeze performance parameter. You can hear it demonstrated here: https://youtu.be/wv6VWxAVBfE?t=208

[Pepisoul]

Thank you very much. I will try this next weekend.

[j2dafo]

Why doesn’t the blackhole algorithm have the freeze option on the h90? I used it a bit with the h9 and sad to see it not carried over to the h90

[brock]

It’s still in there.  In BlackHole, Freeze happens with Feedback turned all the way clockwise.

I used this just recently on a PatchStorage Program, to freeze a WormHole.  It never ends.

[j2dafo]

Word, thanks mate. My next thought was to program a hotswitch for max feedback to see what happens. Sweet.

[brock]

I did the same in that particular Program.  Just check it back again after you Save.  There’s still a ‘sweet spot’ to hit between Freeze & Infinite.  Sometimes, it doesn’t behave like it should.  Not so sure I needed the HS options there … a 100 light year WormHole is quite long.

[mannyms0912]

Heres a question: can i place a pedal, in this case a MEL9, in one of the pedal Loops and when I freeze the signal in, say Prism shift, will it freeze the signal going to the Mel 9 in the external loop?

I currently use a SuperEgo+ which has its own effect loop and the mel 9 in in that loop, so I can freeze it, or have it triggered normally. It wouild free up more real estate on my board making the h90 even a better choice to replace my 2 H9s… Thanks

 

[brock]

Yes, the key is routing in Series.  Just make sure Prism Shift (or Polyphony, PolyFlex, one of the reverbs, etc.) is first in line.  Then whatever follows the frozen signal will process it.

Fortunately there are many placement options for the Inserts.  One quick note on what to expect from Prism Shift:  The High and Low voices will freeze, the Mid voice does not.

[mannyms0912]

Thanks. I think i understand the insert concept. Final thought: can I play over the freeze? Like creating a pad effect and soloing over it? Or is the freeze the only audio? Possibly a mix parameter that controls the wet/dry signal?

Thanks again!!!

[jtat]

Are there any options to “re-latch” or additionally to auto latch? Right now, I only know how to freeze by stepping on the footswitch, turn it off and then press again to capture/latch.

Am I doing it wrong? The double press makes it difficult to be musical, but it’s still great to try or practice arpeggios/scales over a chord

[brock]

HSx (M) might be more useful here.  A couple of directions you can take with momentary switching:

• OFF for your base Decay value – Freeze for ON.
• Freeze as the default OFF (dry signal passes).  Decay value for ON.

One advantage to the latter is that you ‘sample’ the reverb when you press the switch, and the Freeze will sustain upon switch release.  Another smooth option substitutes an expression pedal.  Confine the full sweep range to a high Decay value, Infinite, and Freeze.  Then gradually mix through them with your foot.

No SuperEgo-like auto-latching / glide (unless you count the Infinite buildup of input notes).  But you did give me a few ideas to explore, using the Freeze options in PolyFlex / Polyphony.

[jtat]

Thanks Brock!

That seems like a very elegant bypass utilizing the Momentary fxn

I am quite the noob, took me a sec to even understand HSx (m) was HotSwitch Momentary, so thank you for your patience

Also, wanted to ask if you think the below can be done with the H90 itself or a GigRig2

During my my searches I came across a thread, which I will quote the pertinent text below (message #4)

User rck:

<span style=”font-size: inherit;”>”Thank you Joe and tbskoglund,</span>

It was the Repeat performance parameter rather then a Freeze function that I was referring to and trying to access (pardon error and my ignorance) and that I was controlling using a latching function on my MIDI controller (Disaster Area DPC-5).

 

Which for anyone else that has an older generation DPC-5 (no screen), I discovered that CC#2 will access the Repeat latching function while in DPC-5 Midi mode and pressing the footswitch 2nd from right which was the same for previous devices, if that parameter is programmed per the above instructions.<span style=”font-size: inherit;”>”</span>

Airplane Hanger H90 Preset-how to activate Freeze

 

[tbskoglund]

Hello,

To try and simplify how this all works for you:

• Many algorithms have performance parameters such as “freeze” or “repeat” for a delay.
• The parameters are accessed by using Perform Mode: https://cdn.eventideaudio.com/manuals/h90/1.7.5/content/play-modes/perform.html
• For example, if you have a delay algorithm for Preset A, you can assign the A footswitch to be the “repeat” perform parameter.
• The perform parameters can also be controlled externally using an aux switch or MIDI controller that sends MIDI CC information.
• Perform parameters can be latching or momentary (M).

HotSwitches are a bit different than perform parameters, but they are turned on/off the same way using Perform Mode.

https://cdn.eventideaudio.com/manuals/h90/1.7.5/content/edit-modes/parameters.html#hotswitch

I took a quick look at the GigRig2 manual and it does not mention that it can send MIDI CC messages, so I don’t think you can use that to trigger the H90’s perform parameters.

Let me know if that clears things up for you.

[amc8]

Super keen for some sort of SuperEgo-like auto-latching / glide!

Superego is the one pedal the h90 has not replaced for me! The smooth transition between frozen chords is hard to replicate on h90.

Some great ideas on this thread, cheers gang.

[tbskoglund]

I just spent some time trying to recreate this kind of effect with PolySynth and UltraTap. It’s not quite the same, there is no auto latch or glide, but this can achieve a similar effect if you freeze a chord with PolySynth, then play another chord, then un-freeze and freeze again while that chord rings out. That sort of gives the morphing/glide effect.

You can download and try the Program here: https://etide.io/UX3As

You could also use the SuperEgo as an insert in the H90 and get a lot of great results that way.

[amc8]

Very cool indeed thanks for that! I have been using ultratap which is a good workaround. I have also been chucking the superego in the insert path, which is GREAT. Thanks for the reply!

[bartender4281]

I own a Gigrig (not the latest version) and you can use MIDI with it, although a tad difficult without any screens, but I believe they have an app that can make it easier. The newest version is more advanced and easier to program.

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