H9000 MADI 32 ch to MOTU 112D 56/64 ch.

[wilkinsi]

I just landed a MOTU 112D MADI/AES/ADAT/AVB interface so I can interface my H9000R with my setup bia MADI. The 112D can only be switched between 56 or 64 channel modes for MADI at 44.1/48k (lower at higher sample rates). As I only mix/record at 44.1k, should I expect any issues?

[tbskoglund]

That sounds like it should work fine. You can set both devices to 64 ch mode and use the system at 44.1K.

[wilkinsi]

Great. Looking forward to installing the card when it arrives.

[wilkinsi]

I almost forgot, do I need to do a factory reset after installation?

[tbskoglund]

No factory reset is needed. Once you install the new card, you should now see MADI channels 1-32 in the FX Chain routing blocks.

[Puppeteer]

No. I didn’t need to reset mine when I installed the MADI card

[wilkinsi]

so after a 3 week delay, the card shows up… and the correct size screwdriver takes a walk 🙁 I was hoping i would find one with the card, but nothing but the card, ribbon and support posts. i do have two other screwdrivers, but one is way too big, and the other too thin, so no go. uuuuurrrrrgh… what is the actual type/name of the phillips screwdriver i need? i will buy a new one tomorrow

[Puppeteer]

From memory I think its a #2 Phillips, but I’m away from the studio at the moment, so can’t check for sure. Hopefully Eventide will chime in with an official answer.

[tbskoglund]

Yes, a #2 Phillips is correct. Installation instructions are here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.eventide.downloads/Product+Manuals/H9000ExpansionCardInstallationGuide.pdf

Let me know how it goes.

[wilkinsi]

so I got another screwdriver set, followed the process…. and not only did that ADAT OUT port shutter snap, so I can no longer connect any optical cable to it, the expansion card is not showing in Emote. I am so angry now (understatement). I also cannot find an AES DB25 to DB25 cable (wired to Tascam spec.) to tide me over (no pun in that statement) until I somehow fix the issue with the MADI card not being detected.

[wilkinsi]

The firmware is up to date 3.1.6.

[tbskoglund]

Can you double check that the ribbon cable connecting the card to the H9000 main board is fully inserted? You can also try reseating this ribbon cable.

The MADI card should show up in the devices page as this screenshot shows: https://cdn.eventideaudio.com/manuals/h9000/2.2.11/content/expansions/index.html

[wilkinsi]

reseated ribbon cable. still not detected. fuming

[wilkinsi]

perhaps try a different slot?

[tbskoglund]

Sorry to hear you are having issues. Yes, you could try a different slot.

If that still doesn’t work, please email support@eventideaudio.com and provide some pictures of the installed card and we can help you further there.

[wilkinsi]

no idea why it didn’t work in SLOT A. Works in SLOT C

[wilkinsi]

and now I have some strange resonance coming from every channel out of the H9000’s MADI channels. grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! rebooting does not help

[wilkinsi]

additional question – is the Word Clock mode supposed to not support the MADI connection? I have used WC when connecting via ADAT, so why does the word clock switch to unlocked when the input is set to MADI C?

[Puppeteer]

I use MADI with worclock as the sync source and it works well. It sounds.like your MOTU isn’t synced, or there is a wordclock cable or termination issue.

Whatever is on the other end of the MADI cable also needs to be synced to the same clock source as the H9000.

My RME UFX3 is my masterclock. The MADIface, KSP8, H9000, MaxxBCL, 01x, Scarlett, Babyface all sync to the UFX3. Wordclock is the sync source for everything except the 01x and Babyface, which don’t have wordclock ports. The Babyface syncs to ADAT via the H9000 and the 01x via AES/EBU from the UFX3

[wilkinsi]

The clock master in my case is my MOTU 828ES

I sm sending clock via AVB to an AVB Switch. That feeds my MOTU 10Pre. The 10pre WC OUT is set to THRU and connected to the 112D which is also connected to the AVB Switch, Finally, the WC OUT of the 112D is sent to the H9000. Only the H9000 is terminated. I wanted an AVB expansion card for the H9000, but Eventide said no. That decision cost me an extra £1050 for the 112D.

I also have an Apogee Big Ben, but my BNC cables are not long enough…

Last of all, I have a TC Finalizer connected vis SPDIF to and from the MOTU 828ES without any wordclock cable between them.

 

Do I even need any wordclock/BNC cables at all?

[tbskoglund]

The WC clocking should work fine for that setup. It’s not clear what the issue you are having is.

• If you’d like the H9000 to be clocked using WC, set the clock source to “Word Clock” and send a valid clock signal from an external device. It sounds like you’ve done this already but it’s not clear what the issue is from what you’ve described.
• You may also clock the H9000 via the expansion card by setting the clock source to “expansion card”. This should also work fine for your setup, and in this scenario you would not need the WC connection going to the H9000.
• If the clock source is valid, the Clock Rate parameter will display “locked” followed by the sample rate. When you change the sample rate from the source device, the H9000 clock rate should automatically follow. If there is a clocking issue, it will display “unlocked”.

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