Thanks again for the fast reply and the other guys advice too, I'll check it all out. I have the DSP7000 running OS V3.002. I see there is a V3.003 available now. What's actually different about the new one? On the 7000 series support page it has a download for User Presets, are these anything to do with the new operating system? If not, how do you access them? My computer would'nt recocognise or acknowlege the file type. Has the 3.0 preset list got any new presets on it? On my last post you mentioned preset #5450 CC Shifter 4v. I do'nt think I have that one on my list unless that one is on the H7600 possibly. I'm going to try and load the new OS and see what happens, seeya.. Tim.