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March 10, 2009 at 8:24 am #106109
Hi, there I am using a software synth from logic though the h8000, via firewire with the i/o plugin. The preset I am using has four outputs. Should I record all 4 outputs to 4 seperate tracks or just bounce them all to a single track. Just wondering what is common practice for acheiving the greatest sound quality
March 10, 2009 at 8:31 am #118378
If you could mention which preset are you exactly using…that would help.
A 4 outputs preset may fall into:
-multi output stereo/mono effect – useful for FoH apps
the first is simply an expanded version of stereo/mono apps, like 2 stereo effects or a mix of stereo and mono ones. You can record it to different stereo tracks or a single stereo one. Keep stereo…stereo!
The second is meant to be used in a quad speakers setup and wouldn't be correct in stereo.
But we don't know…what are you using there….
March 11, 2009 at 3:51 am #118384
sorry, I am using the 4 detuners patch. So should I record this to more than one stereo track.
Because that is what I have been doing until now, just bouncing everything to a stereo track.
I'm wondering if that will be to much for one stereo track to handle?
March 11, 2009 at 9:32 am #129483
name and number of the preset. There are 1800+ of them in there….
March 11, 2009 at 7:03 pm #129491
4 detuners #5410 in the shifters categorey.
March 11, 2009 at 7:34 pm #129492
That preset is a quad one. It means it uses Xpan (L/R) and Ypan (Front Rear). In addition to that it also has 4 inputs, each one going to a separate detuner.
If you want to use this one in stereo I/O you will have to set the unit Routing so that the 2 channels you are feeding to the unit will go to the 4 preset inputs. If you are using analog input 1 and 2 you may want to send
in 1 > DSP A in 1
in 2 > DSP A in 2
in 1 > DSP A in 3
in 2 > DSP A in 4
I assume you are already running four outputs from the Eventide thru some kind of mixing device or software- Keep the preset panning as it is so that each detuner will be going out on a single output.
Yes you can have 4 detuners on a single stereo track. I don't see why you couldn't…unless you want to further process some of the 4 voices in a different way from the others.
Notice how the detuners are set to mirror values (7/-7 cents and 14/-14 cents). Usually this technique works great in full pan stereo image. In this case I would probably reverse the +/- values on one of the couples so that each speaker gets a + and a – value…like 7 and -14 on LEFT and -7 and 14 on the right….this will keep detuning balanced in the listener brain. You way also want to experiment with delay settings; there are already offset for a nice chorusing effect.
The tightness parameter is cool! It helps keeping those delays offset by a specific value or tight.
Obviously in a quad/5.1 recording things would sound much more interesting, given the wide spacial enhancement those delays provide and their detuned sound.
Something else you could (I would suggest "should") try is loading 2 instances of 1618 Micropitch (+/-) in the 2 DSPs and run the outputs in stereo. Each detuner is modulated by +/- x cents…so offsetting detuning and delay values does the trick. More "movement" is happening here because of more detuning voices and modulation of their pitch. Lots of action. You may like it better.
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